U2 ‎– Boy

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Boy is the debut album from Irish rock band U2, released October 1980.

Tracklist

I Will Follow 3:40
Twilight 4:22
An Cat Dubh 4:46
Into The Heart 3:27
Out Of Control 4:12
Stories For Boys 3:04
The Ocean 1:34
A Day Without Me 3:12
Another Time, Another Place 4:31
The Electric Co. 4:47
Shadows And Tall Trees 5:13
Saturday Night (Hidden Track On Certain Releases) 0:30

Versions (165)

Cat# Artist Title (Format) Label Cat# Country Year
ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records ILPS 9646 UK 1980 Sell This Version
ILK 719646 U2 Boy(Cass, Album) Island Records ILK 719646 Italy 1980 Sell This Version
CBS 40-84658 U2 Boy(Cass, Album) CBS CBS 40-84658 Ireland 1980 Sell This Version
ZCI 9646 U2 Boy(Cass, Album) Island Records ZCI 9646 Scandinavia 1980 Sell This Version
ICT 9646 U2 Boy(Cass, Album) Island Records ICT 9646 Malaysia 1980 Sell This Version
7 90040-4 U2 Boy(Cass, Album) Island Records 7 90040-4 US 1980 Sell This Version
7200 105 U2 Boy(Cass, Album) Island Records 7200 105 France 1980 Sell This Version
C 37517 U2 Boy(Cass, Album) Island Records C 37517 New Zealand 1980 Sell This Version
842296-4 U2 Boy(Cass, Album) Island Records 842296-4 Chile 1980 Sell This Version
7 90040-4, 90040-4 U2 Boy(Cass, Album) Island Records, Island Records 7 90040-4, 90040-4 US 1980 Sell This Version
ICT 9646 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, Bla) Island Records ICT 9646 UK 1980 Sell This Version
A4-90040, 90040-4 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, Club) Island Records, Island Records A4-90040, 90040-4 US 1980 Sell This Version
XM5-9646 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, Dol) Island Records XM5-9646 Canada 1980 Sell This Version
ICT 9646 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, Gre) Island Records ICT 9646 UK 1980 Sell This Version
500 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records 500 9646 Portugal 1980 Sell This Version
10.202913.50 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records 10.202913.50 Portugal 1980 Sell This Version
202 913-320, 202 913 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records, Island Records 202 913-320, 202 913 Netherlands 1980 Sell This Version
ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records ILPS 9646 US 1980 Sell This Version
ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records ILPS 9646 Philippines 1980 Sell This Version
6313105 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records 6313105 France 1980 Sell This Version
S CBS 84658 U2 Boy(LP, Album) CBS S CBS 84658 Ireland 1980 Sell This Version
10.202913.40 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records 10.202913.40 Portugal 1980 Sell This Version
ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records ILPS 9646 Sweden 1980 Sell This Version
L 37517, ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records, Island Records L 37517, ILPS 9646 New Zealand 1980 Sell This Version
S CBS 84658 U2 Boy(LP, Album) CBS S CBS 84658 Ireland 1980 Sell This Version
BAN 129646, ILPS 129646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records, Island Records BAN 129646, ILPS 129646 Israel 1980 Sell This Version
202 913-320, 202 913 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records, Island Records 202 913-320, 202 913 Germany 1980 Sell This Version
ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records ILPS 9646 UK 1980 Sell This Version
ISL 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records ISL 9646 Canada 1980 Sell This Version
062 VG 71409, ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Virgin, Island Records 062 VG 71409, ILPS 9646 Greece 1980 Sell This Version
71409 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Virgin 71409 Greece 1980 Sell This Version
LPR25027 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records LPR25027 Mexico 1980 Sell This Version
L 37517, ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records, Island Records L 37517, ILPS 9646 Australia 1980 Sell This Version
ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records ILPS 9646 UK 1980 Sell This Version
ILPS 19646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records ILPS 19646 Italy 1980 Sell This Version
ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records ILPS 9646 US 1980 Sell This Version
XILP 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records XILP 9646 Canada 1980 Sell This Version
ILS-81395 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records ILS-81395 Japan 1980 Sell This Version
202 913-320 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records 202 913-320 Europe 1980 Sell This Version
CBS 84658 U2 Boy(LP, Album) CBS CBS 84658 Ireland 1980 Sell This Version
202.913, 10.202913.37 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records, Island Records 202.913, 10.202913.37 Portugal 1980 Sell This Version
ISL 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, Club) Island Records ISL 9646 Canada 1980 Sell This Version
ILPS 9646P U2 Boy(LP, Album, Pic, Unofficial) Island Records ILPS 9646P UK 1980 Sell This Version
ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, Promo) Island Records ILPS 9646 US 1980 Sell This Version
ILS-81395 U2 Boy(LP, Album, Promo) Island Records ILS-81395 Japan 1980 Sell This Version
202.913, 08-031759-20 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records 202.913, 08-031759-20 Germany 1980 Sell This Version
ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RP) Island Records ILPS 9646 US 1980 Sell This Version
25S-77 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Polystar, Island Records 25S-77 Japan 1981 Sell This Version
ILPS 19646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RP) Island Records ILPS 19646 Italy 1981 Sell This Version
90040-1 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records 90040-1 US 1982 Sell This Version
L 37517, ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RP, 20t) Island Records, Island Records L 37517, ILPS 9646 Australia 1982 Sell This Version
7 90040-4, 90040-4 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records 7 90040-4, 90040-4 US 1983 Sell This Version
D 402913 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, RE) Island Records D 402913 Spain 1983 Sell This Version
90040-1, 7 90040-1 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records 90040-1, 7 90040-1 US 1983 Sell This Version
90040-1 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records 90040-1 US 1983 Sell This Version
I-202.913 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records I-202.913 Spain 1983 Sell This Version
402 913 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, RE) Island Records 402 913 Europe 1984 Sell This Version
402.913 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, RE) Island Records, Dacapo 402.913 Portugal 1984 Sell This Version
ISL 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, Club, RE) Island Records ISL 9646 Canada 1984 Sell This Version
VG 71409, ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records VG 71409, ILPS 9646 Greece 1985 Sell This Version
ISL 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records ISL 9646 Canada 1985 Sell This Version
P33D-20020, CID 110 U2 Boy = ボーイ(CD, Album, RE) Polystar, Island Records P33D-20020, CID 110 Japan 1986 Sell This Version
CID 110, 90040 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records CID 110, 90040 UK 1986 Sell This Version
A2 90040 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE, Club) Island Records A2 90040 US 1986 Sell This Version
402 913 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, RE) Island Records 402 913 Europe 1986 Sell This Version
33.509 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records 33.509 Brazil 1986 Sell This Version
610.7089 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records 610.7089 Brazil 1986 Sell This Version
ISL 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records ISL 9646 Canada 1986 Sell This Version
CAI 9252 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, RE) Jugoton, Island Records CAI 9252 Yugoslavia 1987 Sell This Version
TLP-70023 U2 Boy(LP) Island Records TLP-70023 Argentina 1987 Sell This Version
LSI 73202, ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Jugoton, Island Records LSI 73202, ILPS 9646 Yugoslavia 1987 Sell This Version
LSI 73202 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records LSI 73202 Yugoslavia 1987 Sell This Version
ILPC 29646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records ILPC 29646 South Africa 1987 Sell This Version
R25D-2083 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records R25D-2083 Japan 1987 Sell This Version
L 37517 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records L 37517 New Zealand 1987 Sell This Version
Island 7523 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records Island 7523 Venezuela 1987 Sell This Version
202 913 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records 202 913 Europe 1987 Sell This Version
CID-110 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records CID-110 Canada 1988 Sell This Version
842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Phonogram 842 296-2 Australasia 1989 Sell This Version
670.9052 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records 670.9052 Brazil 1989 Sell This Version
202.913 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records 202.913 Germany 1989 Sell This Version
P24D-10048, CID 110 U2 ボーイ (Boy)(CD, Album, RE) Polystar, Island Records P24D-10048, CID 110 Japan 1989 Sell This Version
842 296 2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, PolyGram Records 842 296 2 Brazil 1990 Sell This Version
422-842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records 422-842 296-2 US 1990 Sell This Version
842 296 2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, PolyGram Records 842 296 2 Brazil 1990 Sell This Version
842 296 2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, PolyGram Records 842 296 2 Brazil 1990 Sell This Version
842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records 842 296-2 Argentina 1990 Sell This Version
CID-110 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records CID-110 Canada 1990 Sell This Version
ISLC-9646, ISLC 9646 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records ISLC-9646, ISLC 9646 Canada 1991 Sell This Version
PHCR-1701 U2 ボーイ (Boy)(CD, Album, RE) Island Records PHCR-1701 Japan 1992 Sell This Version
842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Phonogram 842 296-2 Australasia 1994 Sell This Version
MMTCD 1938 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Masters, Island Records MMTCD 1938 South Africa 1995 Sell This Version
ILPM 9646, 842 296-1 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records ILPM 9646, 842 296-1 UK 1995 Sell This Version
PHCR-4701 U2 ボーイ (Boy)(CD, Album, RE) Island Records PHCR-4701 Japan 1995 Sell This Version
IMCD 211, 842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Masters, Island Records IMCD 211, 842 296-2 UK 1996 Sell This Version
842296-4 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, RE) Island Records, PolyGram 842296-4 Russia 1996 Sell This Version
PHCR-4833 U2 ボーイ (Boy)(CD, Album, RE) Island Records PHCR-4833 Japan 1998 Sell This Version
842 296-2, 842 296-2 (23) U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records 842 296-2, 842 296-2 (23) Mexico 2000 Sell This Version
7 90040-2, 90040-2, 422 842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE, Club) Island Records, Island Records, Island Records 7 90040-2, 90040-2, 422 842 296-2 US 2000 Sell This Version
CID-110 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records CID-110 Canada 2001 Sell This Version
UICY-2355 U2 ボーイ (Boy)(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Universal Music UICY-2355 Japan 2002 Sell This Version
UICY-9707 U2 ボーイ (Boy)(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Universal Music UICY-9707 Japan 2004 Sell This Version
UICY-6563 U2 ボーイ (Boy)(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Universal Music UICY-6563 Japan 2006 Sell This Version
530303-S U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE, RM) Island Records 530303-S Netherlands 2007 Sell This Version
STARCD 7214 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Interscope Records STARCD 7214 South Africa 2008 Sell This Version
B0010946-02 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE + CD, Comp + Box, RM) Island Records, Interscope Records, UMe B0010946-02 US 2008 Sell This Version
1761670 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE + CD, Comp + Box, RM) Mercury Music Group, Island Records, Interscope Records 1761670 Europe 2008 Sell This Version
UICY-1418/9, 1761670 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE + CD, Comp + Box, RM) Universal Music, Island Records UICY-1418/9, 1761670 Japan 2008 Sell This Version
1779800 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE + CD, Comp + Box, RM, Ltd, T-S) Mercury 1779800 UK 2008 Sell This Version
460502600250 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE, RM) Universal Music Russia 460502600250 Russia 2008 Sell This Version
B0010843-02 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE, RM) Island Records, UMe, Interscope Records B0010843-02 US 2008 Sell This Version
60251761670 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE, RM + CD, Comp + Box, RM) Universal Music Group, Mercury Music Group, Island Records, Interscope Records 60251761670 Brazil 2008 Sell This Version
1764646 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RM) Universal Music Group 1764646 Australia 2008 Sell This Version
1764646 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RM, RE) Mercury Music Group, Island Records, Interscope Records 1764646 Europe 2008 Sell This Version
0251764646 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RM, RE) Mercury Music Group, Island Records, Interscope Records 0251764646 Canada 2008 Sell This Version
1764646 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RM, RE) Mercury Music Group, Island Records, Interscope Records 1764646 Argentina 2008 Sell This Version
1764646 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RM, RE) Mercury, Island Records, Interscope Records 1764646 UK 2008 Sell This Version
1761671 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE, RM) Mercury, Island Records, Interscope Records 1761671 UK & Europe 2008 Sell This Version
B0010843-01 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE, RM, 180) Island Records, Universal Island Records, Interscope Records B0010843-01 US 2008 Sell This Version
UICY-1413, UICY 1413 U2 ボーイ (Boy)(CD, Album, RE, RM) Universal Music, Island Records UICY-1413, UICY 1413 Japan 2008 Sell This Version
UICY-91624 U2 ボーイ (Boy)(CD, Album, RE, RM) Universal Music UICY-91624 Japan 2010 Sell This Version
5363995 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE, RM) Island Records 5363995 Spain 2016 Sell This Version
A2 90040 U2 Boy(CD, Album, Club, RE) Island Records A2 90040 Canada Unknown Sell This Version
IMCD 211, 842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Masters, Island Records IMCD 211, 842 296-2 UK Unknown Sell This Version
842 296-2, CID 110 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records 842 296-2, CID 110 UK Unknown Sell This Version
842 296-2, IMCD 211 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Masters 842 296-2, IMCD 211 UK Unknown Sell This Version
CDCID 9646 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records CDCID 9646 Italy Unknown Sell This Version
CDCID 9646 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records CDCID 9646 Austria Unknown Sell This Version
7 90040-2, 90040-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records 7 90040-2, 90040-2 US Unknown Sell This Version
IMCD 211, 842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Masters, Island Records IMCD 211, 842 296-2 UK Unknown Sell This Version
CID-110, CIDM 110 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records CID-110, CIDM 110 Canada Unknown Sell This Version
610 561-222, CID 110, 610561 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records, Island Records 610 561-222, CID 110, 610561 Europe Unknown Sell This Version
842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records 842 296-2 France Unknown Sell This Version
IMCD 211, 842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Masters, Island Records IMCD 211, 842 296-2 UK & Europe Unknown Sell This Version
610 561, CID 110 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records 610 561, CID 110 Europe Unknown Sell This Version
842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Phonogram 842 296-2 Australasia Unknown Sell This Version
D 37517 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Festival Records, Island Records D 37517 Australia Unknown Sell This Version
422-842 296-2, 422 842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records 422-842 296-2, 422 842 296-2 US Unknown Sell This Version
IMCD 211, 842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Masters, Island Records IMCD 211, 842 296-2 UK Unknown Sell This Version
610 561 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records 610 561 Germany Unknown Sell This Version
842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE) Island Records 842 296-2 Europe Unknown Sell This Version
A2 90040, 90040-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE, Club) Island Records, Island Records A2 90040, 90040-2 US Unknown Sell This Version
7 90040-2, 90040-2, 422 842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE, Club) Island Records, Island Records, Island Records 7 90040-2, 90040-2, 422 842 296-2 US Unknown Sell This Version
A2-90040 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE, Club, Dig) Island Records A2-90040 US Unknown Sell This Version
7 90040-2, 90040-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE, Dig) Island Records, Island Records 7 90040-2, 90040-2 US Unknown Sell This Version
1764646 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RE, RM) Mercury Music Group, Island Records, Interscope Records 1764646 Europe Unknown Sell This Version
CID-110 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RP) Island Records CID-110 Canada Unknown Sell This Version
422-842 296-2, 422 842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, RP) Island Records, Island Records 422-842 296-2, 422 842 296-2 US Unknown Sell This Version
IMCD 211, 842 296-2 U2 Boy(CD, Album, Unofficial) Island Masters (2), Island Records (2) IMCD 211, 842 296-2 Bulgaria Unknown Sell This Version
422-842 296-4 U2 Boy(Cass, Album) Island Records 422-842 296-4 US Unknown Sell This Version
ISLC-9646, ISLC 9646 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, Club, RE, Dol) Island Records, Island Records ISLC-9646, ISLC 9646 Canada Unknown Sell This Version
842 296-4 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, RE) Island Records 842 296-4 UK Unknown Sell This Version
ICM 9646, 842 296-4 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records ICM 9646, 842 296-4 Netherlands Unknown Sell This Version
ISLC-9646, ISLC 9646 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, RE) Island Records, Island Records ISLC-9646, ISLC 9646 Canada Unknown Sell This Version
EN-281 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, Unofficial) Thomsun Original EN-281 Unknown Sell This Version
0958 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, Unofficial) Elbo 0958 Poland Unknown Sell This Version
1030 U2 Boy(Cass, Album, Unofficial) Takt Music 1030 Poland Unknown Sell This Version
none U2 Boy(Cass, Album, Unofficial) Not On Label none Bulgaria Unknown Sell This Version
10.202913.50, 202.913 U2 Boy(LP, Album) Island Records, Island Records 10.202913.50, 202.913 Portugal Unknown Sell This Version
90040-1, R 144636A U2 Boy(LP, Album, Club, RE) Island Records, RCA Music Service 90040-1, R 144636A US Unknown Sell This Version
20S-77 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Polystar, Island Records 20S-77 Japan Unknown Sell This Version
ISL 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records ISL 9646 Canada Unknown Sell This Version
I-202.913 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Island Records I-202.913 Spain Unknown Sell This Version
LSI 73202, ILPS 9646 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE) Jugoton, Island Records LSI 73202, ILPS 9646 Yugoslavia Unknown Sell This Version
A1 90040, A1-90040, 90040 U2 Boy(LP, Album, RE, Club) Island Records, Island Records, Island Records A1 90040, A1-90040, 90040 US Unknown Sell This Version

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y531ly5

y531ly5

January 5, 2016
referencing Boy, CD, Album, RE, RM, 5363995
This is a repress, original issue was released on 2015/11/15, but all CD was mispressed and play Jarove Pesnicky (2008 jazz compilation album).
elgydium

elgydium

April 6, 2015
referencing Boy, CD, Album, RE, D 37517
No barcode on back cover - first issue
Loanesloan

Loanesloan

December 9, 2014
referencing Boy, LP, Album, 10.202913.50
printed innersleeve
depecheboy

depecheboy

October 16, 2014
referencing Boy, LP, Album, ILPS 19646
i have a different label art, could it be a reissue? same catalogue number but different label
CapRock

CapRock

September 21, 2014
referencing Boy, LP, Album, ISL 9646
Here is a distribution by MCA which means a reissue or reedition
CapRock

CapRock

September 21, 2014
referencing Boy, LP, Album, RE, ISL 9646
normally this 3rd edition after a disstribution by wea and one by MCA
pedrodrogheda

pedrodrogheda

February 20, 2014
referencing Boy, LP, Album, S CBS 84658
Re: unlisted track at the the end of side B. My German pressed copy has this also. Is this a feature of all the vinyl pressings?
Agu2art

Agu2art

November 24, 2013
referencing Boy, LP, Album, ILPS 9646
I have several Argentinean pressings of this album that are not mentiuoned here.
Cassette TMS 70023 from 1986, with U2 / NIÑO on top (cover), and the first CD pressing, from early 90s (1993 or so) cat# 842 296-2.
Also i have the Promo version for the remastered Arg version, and a promo fro mthe US with a diff sticker on front (round glden sticker).
jacolb

jacolb

March 16, 2012
referencing Boy, CD, Album, RE, IMCD 211, 842 296-2
I have yet another version of this CD. My CD was not Made in France, but Made in Germany by Universal. So, should I add it to my collection, or can anybody create "New version" of this release?
greymoonrising

greymoonrising

January 3, 2011
referencing Boy, Cass, Album, Bla, ICT 9646
Anyone who claims otherwise is a FOOL