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Ecstasy, Passion & Pain

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Barbara Roy, Althea Amith, Carl Jordan, Joseph Williams, Jr., Jimmy Clark, Ronald Foster
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Earth, Wind & Fire… Love, Peace & Happiness… Faith, Hope & Charity… The seventies brought a number of three-noun groups onto the disco charts with varying degrees of success.

Ranking up there with the best of them was the relatively short-lived Roulette Records act Ecstasy, Passion & Pain, considered disco’s first super-group. Althought they only released one album and a handful of singles for the label, their impact was to be felt well into future decades.

Formed in 1973, in New York, it’s seemingly fluid membership of between 5 and 8 persons was entirely dominated by Barbara (Gaskins) Roy. We’ll come back to Ms. B. later, let’s explore her colleagues first, all of whom were instrumentalists (as was Barbara with her jammin’ big guitar) which allowed the group to perform as a self-contained unit.

The other members included Althea “Cookie” Smith, rare for an unusual young lady in that she was the group’s drummer, while the remainder of the percussion work on their recordings came from Carl Jordan, later replaced by Alan Tizer. Joseph Williams Junior provided musical support on bass and Jimmy Clark was co-guitarist (with Ms. B.) for their entire Roulette recordings. Then there was keyboardist Ronald Foster…

Ronnie Foster was born in 1950 in New York. By the early 1970’s he was already making jazz albums for Blue Note Records and his move into E.P. & P. at a time when he was establishing himself as a solo performer suggests that either no one expected the group to have any longevity or that he was merely contracted for their sessions. Whatever, he was back on his solo career after his duties on the Roulette recordings, ultimately branching out into writing and producing, working with such diverse artists as Dee Dee Bridgewater, Flora Purim, Chaka Khan and the Temptations, to name a few. Billy Gardner took over keyboard duties from Foster. It should be noted that any contributions by the group members, other than Roy, to the actual recordings were nullified by the presence of Philly star muscians “M.F.S.B.” who were given credit on the original releases.

Barbara, as well as commanding her jammin’ big guitar, was the group’s lead vocalist, nominally supported on backgrounds by other group members but more ‘properly’ supported by those “Sweethearts Of Sigma Sound”- Barbara Ingram, Evette Benton and Carla Benson. She was also responsible for writing much of the group’s material.
Barbara, born in Kingston, North Carolina, began her career as one half of the duo Barbara & Brenda, Brenda (Gaskins) being her niece. Together they recorded three singles for the Heidi label, “Hurting Inside,” “Special Kind Of Love” and “One More Chance” before coming under the guidance of Luther Dixon and moving to Musicor’s subsidiary, Dynamo. Another trio of singles were released by Dynamo, “If I’m Hurt You’ll Feel The Pain,” “Never Love A Robin” and “Don’t Wait Up For Me Mama.” A further recording, “That’s Enough” remained unreleased until it’s appearance on a 1997 compilation “Kent’s Magic Touch.”

With their lack of success Brenda decided to quit the business. Made of stronger stock, Barbara hung in there from her New York base and began playing guitar for Inez and Charlie Foxx (“Mockingbird”) and on various recording sessions in New York waiting for another break. In 1973, Ecstasy, Passion & Pain was formed and shortly afterwards, through manager Phil Braxton, the group had a recording contract. Getting a deal with Roulette Records, Ecstasy, Passion & Pain recorded roughly 28 sides that included demos and finished masters. 10 cuts made it to their one and only album, several were single-only releases and 13 had to wait 25 years to be released!

A stream of hits started with their first release “I Wouldn’t Give You Up” from late 1973 which hit #-17 on the R&B charts. Next came “Good Things Don’t Last Forever” #-14 R&B, #-93 pop. The follow-up “Ask Me,” regarded as a classic, hit #-19 R&B and went to #-52 on the pop charts. A side note; the song was such an underground classic that Nigerian-born Canadian disco legend Carol (Uchenna Ikejiani) Jiani cut a version in 1982 that swept the club scene and landed her a worldwide hit. “One Beautiful Day” followed hitting #-14 R&B and #-48 pop. The next release 1975’s “There’s So Much Love All Around” was first an A-side single and then the b-side to two later releases proving Roulette’s faith in the song and the group. Thanks to legendary mixologist Tom Moulton’s handy work on “Touch & Go” it became their signature tune as well as an enduring classic. The highly sought-after 12” single is their only Roulette release to be cut on a 12” single. Two more releases in 1977 “Passion” and “Dance The Night Away” failed to match the success on “Touch & Go” although both are brilliant tunes in their own right. By the end of 1977 just as disco was entering it’s golden age E.P. & P. disbanded.

During the years 1977 to 1981 Barbara continued with session work and formed her own successful label, Roy B. Records. As a label owner she had a string of hits with Pizzazz’s “I Heard It Through The Grapevine,” Soccer’s “Dancin’ Game,” Melody Stewart’s “Get Down, Get Down/Action Satisfaction” and culminating with a reunion of E.P. & P. for the 1981 club smash “If You Want Me.”

Another chart/recording hiatus ensued from 1981 to 1986. Her label had folded and E.P. & P. never really managed to stay together after the brief reunion. By 1986 Barbara had surfaced on RCA Records with the release of “Gotta See You Tonight” followed by another 12” single “Gonna Put Up A Fight” in 1987. However their was no album forthcoming. As of 1989 she was still signed to RCA when she recorded her part for the studio group, Togetherness, assembled to support Paul Simpson on the song “We Are The Ones” from his Simp-House/Cooltempo album, “One.” The Togetherness group consisted of Barbara “Ecstasy, Passion & Pain” Roy, Will Downing, Rochelle Fleming, Loleatta Holloway, Toney Lee, Ray Simpson, and Fonda Rae. An incredible line-up to say the least.

Sadly Barbara’s career seems to be on-hold after this point. Thanks to sampling she can be heard on the 1990’s hits: “Son Of A Gun” by JX and “Just Wanna Touch Me” by Fidelfatti, and by virtue of re-release the entire E.P. & P. catalogue can be heard on the U.K. Westside album “Good Things (The Roulette Recordings 1973-1977).” Perhaps Barbara will reappear again on CD. Until then we have her eternal legacy of some of the best of the early “club” classics to enjoy.
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Discography

Releases:
Ask Me / Good Things Don't Last Forever (Single) (6 versions)   Roulette Records 1974
Ask Me / I'll Take The Blame (2 versions)   Roulette Records ... 1974
Ecstasy, Passion & Pain (Album) (5 versions)   Roulette Records ... 1974
Good Things Don't Last Forever / Born To Lose You (7")   Roulette Records 1974
Good Things Don't Last Forever / Born To Lose You (7")   Pye International 1974
I Wouldn't Give You Up / Don't Burn Your Bridges Behind You (Single) (2 versions)   Roulette Records 1974
Touch And Go (Single) (5 versions)   Roulette Records ... 1976
If You Want Me (Maxi, Single) (13 versions)   Roy B Records ... 1981
Touch & Go/ What You Won't Do For Love/ Down For The Third Time (Vinyl)   Dj's Choice, Dj's Choice 1984
Boogie Oogie Oogie / Touch And Go (12", Maxi)   Debut 2001
Give Me Your Love / Ask Me (12")   Disco Juice Records 2003
Tracks Appear On:
Soul Train Hits That Made It Happen (LP) One Beautiful Day Adam VIII Ltd. 1973
Heavy Hits (LP, Comp) I Wouldn't Give You Up Adam VIII Ltd. 1974
Soul Train Super Tracks (LP, Comp) Good Things Don't Last... Adam VIII Ltd. 1974
Alle 14 Hits (LP, Comp) One Beautiful Day Vip Records BV 1975
Disco Party (LP, Smplr) One Beautiful Day Adam VIII Ltd. 1975
Hot Dance From Philadelphia (Comp) (2 versions) Ask Me, Let's Love Disques Vogue ... 1975
Disco Hustle (2xLP, Comp) Touch And Go Adam VIII Ltd. 1976
Soul Train: Super Tracks (Cass, Comp) Good Things Don't Last... Adam VIII Ltd. 1976
Disco Motion (LP, Comp, Mixed) Ask Me Common Wealth Records 1977
Rock On (2xLP, Smplr) Ask Me Adam VIII Ltd. 1977
Discocross No. 2 (LP, Mixed) If You Want Me, If You... F1 Team 1981
Full Time Winter (LP) If You Want Me Full Time Records 1981
The Best Of Rams Horn Records (LP, Comp) If You Want Me Rams Horn Records 1981
Untitled (12") If You Want Me (Discomix) Unidisc 1981
Hot Disco Takes 1 (2xLP) If You Want Me Rams Horn Records 1982
12 Inch Dance Classics Vol. 4 (CD, Maxi) If You Want Me Rams Horn Records 1988
Here Come The Girls, Vol.5 Sisters From The City (CD, Comp) I Wouldn't Give You Up Sequel Records 1994
Give Your Body Up - Club Classics & House Foundations (Volume 2) (CD, Comp) Touch And Go Rhino Entertainment Company 1995
Jumpin' - Original Full Length Classics From The Disco Underground (2 versions) Touch & Go (Original V... Harmless 1997
Super Rare Disco : Volume 1 (CD, Comp) Touch And Go Robbins Entertainment 1997
The Best Disco Album In The Universe Volume 1 (CD) Ask Me Warner Special Products, Essex Entertainment, Inc. 1997
The Best Disco Album In The Universe Volume 4 (CD, Comp) Touch & Go Essex Entertainment, Inc. 1997
Disco Swing Classics (2xCD) Ask Me ARS Productions 1998
Dancemania Club Classics (CD, Mixed) Touch & Go Toshiba EMI Ltd 1999
Star-Funk Vol. 42 (CD, Comp) If You Want Me (Remix) Unidisc 1999
Disco Box Vol. 3 - Beat Goes On (CD, Comp, Mixed) Touch & Go Disco Box 2000
Shibuya-Kei Old School II (CD, Comp, Promo) Touch & Go (7" Version) Toshiba EMI Ltd 2000
Disco Breaks Mastercuts (Comp) (2 versions) Touch & Go (Original 12") Mastercuts 2001
Sampled 2: Digging Deeper (2xCD) Touch & Go Virgin, Circa Records Ltd. 2001
Mastercuts Discothèque (2xCD, Comp, Mixed) Touch & Go (Original Mix) Mastercuts 2002
Edits By Mr. K (Comp) (2 versions) Ask Me (Re-Worked) Strut 2003
Disco Grooves (2xCD, Comp) Touch And Go Disky 2006
Disco Madness Vol.1 (12") Touch And Go Disco Madness  
The Real Deal (12") Touch & Go Not On Label  
Unofficial Releases:
12" Classics (12") Touch & Go (New Mix), ... 12" Classics  
Acapella Anonymous Vol. #1 (LP) Touch & Go DJ Essentials Inc.  
Disco Classics EP (12", Ltd, TP, Unofficial) Ask Me (Re-Edit) M & A Records, Inc.  
Touch & Go / What You Won't Do For Love (12", Unofficial) Touch & Go (Original V... Not On Label  
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