JT_X wrote:

Can an "orchestral fixer" or "orchestral contractor" be considered a form of "Leader"?

OmegaSupreme wrote:

I've been asked to resubmit releases as 'Leader', but I don't think it properly applies.

The following is adapted from http://www.berkeleysymphony.org/who/m...n_1633.htm

"The contractor is the person responsible for overseeing the makeup of the orchestra for subscription concerts, as well as the pit orchestra for events. There is, of course, a core of players who make up the orchestra, but on occasion particular members may not be able to play a given concert. And, of course, big works require many more players than the musicians who make up the core orchestra — the score might call for a saxophone, a contrabass clarinet, an accordion or an onde martineau (a very unusual instrument favored by Olivier Messiaen). In these situations the contractor has to find the players to cover the parts. If the second trombone player breaks his ankle two hours before a concert, the contractor will get the call, pull out the Rollodex and start phoning for a replacement."

The Leader is 'the principal first violin, and is considered the leader of not only the string section, but of the entire orchestra, subordinate only to the conductor.' (from Wikipedia). The Leader is usually the one who plays all the solos as well.

Often the contractor will also be a principle player (and therefore could very well be the Leader), but it is more a case of someone performing two roles than they being the same thing. In the Berkely Symphony quote, the contractor is the principal clarinet, so if the Leader is the first principal violin, then she isn't the Leader.

My knowledge is limited, so if there's anyone who understands this better, please feel free to say 'you fool!' lol.

Hope that helps JT.

balcony_smoker wrote:

how should an "orchestral fixer" be credited as, then?

a. Orchestra [Fixer] (example: Jakatta – Visions: track 12)
b. Orchestra [Fixed By]
c. Other [Orchestra Fixed By] (as suggested here)

JT_X wrote:

Definitely not "Orchestra [...]". One person logically can't be an orchestra.

I've suggested "Orchestra Fixer" and "Orchestra Contractor" be added to the list of legal roles here (mods only), but was mostly shot down here.

My attempts to use "Leader [Orchestra Fixer]" have been met with disapproving comments from other mods. A Leader is defined as a member of an ensemble who assumes leadership roles. A Fixer or Contractor is someone outside of the ensemble.

It would appear that "Other [...]" is the only option at this time.

Kergillian wrote:

It's essentially the same thing as an A&R guy on a label - which is an 'Other' role. So Other is best IMO...

balcony_smoker wrote:

I agree Other is the best way to deal with Fixed By (Fixer or Contractor would be perfect), it seems linked Leader is The Option here on Discogs, tho'.