simfonik wrote:

For me, it's got to be: 3 Phase Featuring Dr. Motte - Der Klang Der Familie. Each of the tracks sound just as incredible (to me) today as they did back then.

What release(s) from that same era do you still find amazing today?

wrote:

Of course, you guessed it: Plastikman - Spastik.

Keep 'em coming, I'm normally a classic trance and progressive house listener (and some ambient/idm/miscellaneous edm too)... not much techno, so I could use any recommendations.

Obese_Kingz wrote:

such a good time for techno - so many classics

2 standouts that jumped into my head (not saying they are my favs)

nervous acid - bobby konders
420 low - eddie folwkes + 3MB

and of course you can't forget "energy flash" - in fact all early joey beltram tracks were killer

also i was really into woody mcbride for a bit around that time as well as robert armani

gmos wrote:

wow, so many from that time, some favs off the top of my head

UR - The Final Frontier
Yennek - Serena X Remix
Drexciya - Bubble Metropolis
Quadrant - Infinition
Maurizio - Domina
Polygon Window - Surfing On Sine Waves

djfrankiebones wrote:

3 Phase and Plastikman both get high ratings from me as well as all those Emmanuel Top joints on Attack.

Frontal Sickness by The Mover. Compression by Frank De Wulf.

Transform by Transformation. The one that came out before the See Saw Release.

Violet Skies and Inner Light.
(Phantasia)

Edwards & Armani

Cold Sensation

The Source E.P.

Tuff Little Unit - Join The Future

UR 003

All of Dan Bell's DBX with yellow labels on Accelerate.

That "Gazza" by Andrometer on Instinct...thats the best T99 rip-off if one should exist.

md wrote:

Impossible to whittle it down from the 350+ releases I have from those years. Highlights in no particular order (well, actually in alphabetical order):

2 Kilos ? - Mohamed's Mind
69 - Sound On Sound
Abfahrt - Come Into My Life
AFX - Analogue Bubblebath Vol 3
Air Liquide - Liquide Air E.P.
Amorphous Androgynous - Tales Of Ephidrina
Aphex Twin - On
Aphex Twin - On (Remixes)
Aphex Twin - Selected Ambient Works 85-92
Aphex Twin - Digeridoo
Aphex Twin - Xylem Tube E.P.
Aphex Twin - Analog Bubblebath Vol 2
Astralasia - The Rhythm Of Life / Celestial Ocean
Balil - Parasight
Bedouin Ascent - Reconnect The Thread
C.J. Bolland - The 4th Sign
Caustic Window - Joyrex J9 EP
Caustic Window - Joyrex J5 EP
Caustic Window - Joyrex J4 EP
Cyrus - Enforcement
DBX - Alien EP
Dr. Fernando ! - Absolutely
Drexciya - Deep Sea Dweller
Drexciya - Drexciya 2 - Bubble Metropolis
F.U.S.E. - Substance Abuse
H&M - Drama EP
In Sync - Storm
Jeff Mills - Waveform Transmission Vol. 1
Kosmik Kommando - Universal Indicator Blue
Kosmik Kommando - Universal Indicator Yellow
Liquid Son - Tone Float
Luke Slater - X-Tront Vol. 2
Martian - Cosmic Movement / Star Dancer
Martian - Sex In Zero Gravity
Martian - Journey To The Martian Polar Cap
Martian - Meet The Red Planet
Millsart - Mecca EP
Nu-Tro-Gen - Rollin' Reptiles
O.D Posse - Over Dose !
Phylyps - Phylyps Trak
Polygon Window - Surfing On Sine Waves
Polygon Window - Quoth
Pornotanz - CySex
Psychic TV - Towards Thee Infinite Beat
Psychick Warriors Ov Gaia - Obsidian (Organically Decomposed)
Psychick Warriors Ov Gaia - Psychick Rhythms Vol. 1
Psychick Warriors Ov Gaia - Exit 23 (The Drum Club Remixes)
Psychick Warriors Ov Gaia - Exit 23
PWOG - Ov Biospheres And Sacred Grooves: A Document Ov New Edge Folk Classics
Robert Armani - Next Start
Salt Tank - Charged Up / Ease The Pressure
Source - Source EP
Source - Organized Noise
Speedy J - Ginger
Sun Electric - Kitchen
The Orb - The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld
The Subjects v. Jeff Mills - Beyond... / Dark Matter
The Vision - Waveform Transmission Vol. 2
Underground Resistance - The Seawolf
Underground Resistance - Acid Rain EP
Universal Indicator - Universal Indicator Red
UR - The Final Frontier
Various - The Silicon Ghetto EP Vol. 2
X-101 - X-101
X-102 - Discovers The Rings Of Saturn
X-103 - Atlantis
X-103 - Thera EP

langster wrote:

Monotraxx Volume II Track B1.

ballmouse wrote:

GTO - Pure (Energy)
LFO - LFO (The Leeds Warehouse Mix)
CJ Bolland - Horsepower, Mindwar
Joey Beltram - Energy Flash
Mental Mayhem - Joey's Riot
DHS - The House Of God (DHS Remix)
Moby - Go
DJ Hell - My Definition Of House Music
Hardfloor - Acperience 1
Neal Howard - Indulge
Underground Resistance - The Punisher

Barry_Crumbcheeks wrote:

i pretty much agree with md. and everyone else. i can't imagine anyone posting anything wack in this thread from that vintage. it's all good anyway. except i aint into spastik that much.

d3a0n3 wrote:

Most of what md and others said plus

Reload - A Collection of Short Stories
B12 - Electrosoma
UR - World 2 World
The Martian - Meet The Red Planet
The Martian - Star Dancer
Various - Philosophy Of Sound And Machine

Alexis_Nembrode wrote:

OMG the list is endless....

Christopher_Jion wrote:

do I even have to say it?

SuEcide (Pt.1)

Blade_Runna wrote:

Revelation - First Power / Synth It
Mundo Muzique - Andromeda EP
Format - Solid Session
Model 500 - The Passage EP
Second Phase - Mentasm
V.A. - Panic In Detroit
V.A. - 313 Detroit
V.A. - Artificial Intelligence

md wrote:

Heh, after I posted my list (against my better judgement that told me to avoid another pointless list thread) I walked to the shops to get some lunch, and realised I'd somehow missed this one. But then I thought to myself "no matter, d3a0n3 will mention it".

fabriknos wrote:

underworld - dubnobasswithmyheadman
spicelab - lost in spice
microglobe - high on hope - the summer remixes
future sound of london - accelerator
cosmic baby - transcendental overdrive
cosmic baby - stellar supreme
voov - it's anything you want it to be, and it's a gas
juno reactor - transmissions
sven väth - an accident in paradise
hardfloor - tb resuscitation
hardfloor - hardtrance acpierience
true love - breath of stars
eat static - abduction
freaky chakra - halucifuge

wrote:

Nahnteh tree? das a tuff one, ah got turteh fonygrafs from dat n shit..

C-Tank - Nightmares are reality
Madonna 303 - Mass-turbator
Zekt - Senseless
Woody McBride - Interference ep
Caustic Visions - Purple Microdots
Spy - Pathogen/Bloodstrike
Laura Grabb - Untitled, IS
Freddy Fresh - Advanced waveform synthetics..

And so on.

P_J wrote:

Orb, The - The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld
C.J. Bolland* - The 4th Sign
X-101 - Sonic Destroyer
Black Dog Productions - Bytes
Age Of Love - The Age Of Love

I know some of these may not be classed as techno. But what the heck, I didn't really know the difference back then.

Obese_Kingz wrote:

i'm sorry but these 2 records should be melted into ashtrays - thats not techno more like gay crapno

Alexis_Nembrode wrote:

Air Liquide, Ultrahigh, X-102

SlinKer wrote:

Zekt - Senseless
Radiation - Meltdown (Remixes)
Acrid Ambience - Various EPs
Nico - Various EPs
Spicelab - Various !
Alici - Theme of Roaar

Too many more to remember off the top of my head , Lots already mentioned ...oh and Very Interesting Progress - TCREDA probably my favorite track from those times :)

Tkon wrote:

Far far too many that could be at top spot so.......

C.J. Bolland - The 4th Sign
Black Dog Productions - Bytes
Second Phase - Mind to mind
Space Trax - Where are you now
Reload - A Collection of Short Stories
Polygon Window - Surfing On Sine Waves
Caustic Window - Joyrex j4
Rhythim Is Rhythim - Icon [montage Mix]
FUSE - Substance abuse
Mental Mayhem - Where are they hiding
Code 6 - Quad 1
Recall IV - Contrast
Holy noise - Father forgive them
Both Trigger 12"s
Directional force - Parameter
Energy storm Vol 1
After dark - Astral invasion
The Overlords - Sundown
Any Anibaldi

To name but a few ;)

d3a0n3 wrote:

Some more -

Wladimir M - As The Leaves Fall From The Trees
Florence - US Heritage
Various - Intergalactic Beats
Terrace - Straight Trippin'
The Mover - Frontal Sickness Part 2

kompressorkanonen wrote:

No they shouldn't. No they're not.

As for the original subject - an exhaustive list will require a few days to compile.

kompressorkanonen wrote:

Mescalinum United - We Have Arrived
The Source Experience - Elektra
Baruka - Edge of Self Control
Age - Sleep Walker
Dave Angel - Bounce Back
Vainqeur - Lyot (sp?)
Bandulu - Guidance
Pod - Vanguard EP
Steve Bicknell - The Quest EP
Essit Muzique - Whoo

10 for starters. Plus most of the ones previously mentioned. I could go on for a bit. And then some more.

paulo_m wrote:

Koenig Cylinders - Carousel
Pink Elln/Atom Heart - Elektronikkaa
Acid Junkies - Volume 1
Space Trax - Atomic Playboy
Autonaton - Sit On The Bass
Mental Overdrive - 12000AD
Mental Overdrive - The Second Coming
Brainstorm - Cybernatical Tonalities

MD's list sums it up for me.

fabriknos wrote:

good call, completely forgot Liquid Air. anyone have a spare copy laying around? ;)

djfrankiebones wrote:

djfrankiebones wrote:

Sorry TKON, my bad....lolz.....

Obese_Kingz wrote:

ok ok I apologize for dissing gay people, hows about if I just said they were and still are SHIT - definitely melt it for sure

Obese_Kingz wrote:

Yo Bones - this one was a goody Radical Rhythms

Tkon wrote:

Yeah you bad Frankie lol ;)
I love that mind to mind tune,always thought it was far superior to mentasm musically and talking of radical rhythms,i ripped my vinyl today to mp3 so dont worry Frankie your up there m8 :)))

Obese_Kingz wrote:

this ones pretty good too NG 023

Tkon wrote:

And just for Frankie -

Frankie Bones - Call It Techno
Frankie Bones - Crossbones EP Track - Hotter Than Hell
Shamen, The - Move Any Mountain (Pro-Gen) Bones remixes
Radical Rhythms - EP
Rhythm Masters, The - The Original Trip-Out Break EP - Volume 3
Delusions Of Grandeur - Touch Me In The Night
Musto & Bones - The Future Is Ours
The Break Boys - Underground Breakdown
Already mentioned this 1 Frankie -
Mental Mayhem - Where Are They Hiding / Joey's Riot
Various - Brooklyn Beats - Brooklyn's In The House
Wired - New York, New York
Looney Tunes - The Looney Tunes Vol. Two
Escape From Brooklyn - Escape From Brooklyn
Flowmasters - Let It Take Control
Musto & Bones - All I Want Is To Get Away
The Original Gangsters Of Freestyle - It's The Only Way / Techno Stratigo

There are you happy now lol ;)

By the way Frankie that 'It's The Only Way' tune you did,was there an unreleased remix or was there another tune that sounded nearly exactly the same from around late '91,ive been after it for years and can't seem to find a name,thanks :)

Tkon wrote:

Thats '89 m8,dont go there,my list for 90 - 93 is like the neverending story already lol,but that is a classic too.

Obese_Kingz wrote:

AGE 004

i remember getting this record back in the day - i used to run a dance music store in melbourne australia and we got this out of a small distributor in frankfurt (uptown or downtown - cant remember the distributor's name) - it was pretty amazing at that time to get crazy records like this coming out of france

Obese_Kingz wrote:

AGE 00
AGE 002
AGE 003
AGE 004

all came in the same box

Tkon wrote:

I had been looking for since '91 but never knew the name of that 'Hotter than hell' tune until about 1995 when in London in one of the music exchange shops basements i picked up a load of whites and took a chance as they were going for 50p,came home to Dublin and was going through when i had 1 of those moments i'm sure any record collector will recognise.I put the needle down and heard 'it is hot can you feel the heat' and nearly came in my pants lol.I had many experiences like that from 88 up to the late 90's until all the good tunes were filtered out and put on the net,not much fun in hunting in 2nd hand shops anymore,those were the days.
PS And dont give me another ticking off teacher catfood lol ;)

Tkon wrote:

Which was nice !

DJFrodo wrote:

Songs/singles:
Renegade Soundwave - The Phantom
Orbital - Chime
DJ Hype - The Trooper
Bitin Back - Boom Box
Eden Transmission - I'm So High
Return Of The Living Acid - Get Funky!
N2O - Lazer Worshippers
Mescalinum United - We Have Arrived
Ace The Space - Your Special Attraction
Xenophobia - Rush In The House
Golden Girls - Kinetic
Hysterix - Talk To Me
Harri - Skelph
MI 7 - Rockin' Down The House
Hawke - 3 Nudes In A Purple Garden
Q-Bass - Funky Hardcore
Pac-Man - Powerpill
Dyewitness - Observing The Earth
Messiah - Temple Of Dreams
Acen - Trip To The Moon
Joey Beltram - Dominator & Energy Flash
Enigmatist - Goal Kick
Havana - Ethnic Prayer
Prefab Sprout - If You Don't Love Me
Timebase - Unity
DJ Icey - Energy Tracks Vol.1
Single Cell Orchestra - Transmit Liberation
Progression - Reach Further
LaTour - Blue
Bassbin Twins - EP 1
Moby - Next Is The E
Direct - Let It Ride
Aphex Twin - Analogue Bubblebath
Model 500 - The Passage
Plastikman - Spastik

Albums:
Eon - Void Dweller
Only For The Headstrong Vol.1 on FFRR (the first CD that got me into techno) : )
Utah Saints - Utah Saints (and the 2nd CD that got me into techno)
Best Of Techno Vol. 1-4 (on Profile Records)
Orb, The - The Orb's Adventures Beyond The Ultraworld & U.F.Orb
The Prodigy - Experience

edit: ooopppss, 1 or 2 might be 89ers

Obese_Kingz wrote:

OOOii !! tune alert!!! classic especially at 7am

SlinKer wrote:

Yeah forgot about that lil gem !! Must go dig out my copy pronto

P_J wrote:

@DJFrodo. Golden Girls - Kinetic. what a great track that was!

i also loved "Capricorn 20 Hz". What a great label R

Tkon wrote:

More -

Liquid metal - Mr dynamite
Scrot - Der Rhythmusmensch
SFX - Galactica
Spinach - Rewind The Crystal Shells EP
Front Line Assembly - The Blade
Gathering Momentum - Bass-Kick
Sub System - Robocop
Terrace - Bewitched
Turntable Terror - Break
Vene - Pain EP

Josh_Rogan wrote:

hope this is OK

Made In Two Minutes

Tkon wrote:

More -

Liquid metal - Mr dynamite
Scrot - Der Rhythmusmensch
SFX - Galactica
Spinach - Rewind The Crystal Shells EP
Front Line Assembly - The Blade
Gathering Momentum - Bass-Kick
Sub System - Robocop
Terrace - Bewitched
Turntable Terror - Break
Vene - Pain EP

Tkon wrote:

And UK Hardcore

DJFrodo wrote:

Really? Which?

langster wrote:

Renegade Soundwave - The Phantom
DJ Hype - The Trooper
Xenophobia - Rush In The House
MI 7 - Rockin' Down The House
Q-Bass - Funky Hardcore
Pac-Man - Powerpill
Messiah - Temple Of Dreams
Acen - Trip To The Moon
The Prodigy - Experience


And a couple of others could be considered borderline UK hardcore more than techno.

TEKNONUTTER wrote:

These 2 are 89ers for a start.




These are uk hardcore/jungle.
I'm not going to go through the whole list, but at least a third of them aren't techno. Some are debatable. "M17 - Rocking Down The House" is nowhere near techno imo (more dub/ragga breakbeat hardcore). Maybe I'm just being pedantic.

The techno tracks you have named are quality though :)

TEKNONUTTER wrote:

Sorry langster, got there before me :P

DJFrodo wrote:

I thought we were talking about techno in general and not just those with a 4/4 kick, damn....to me back then everything was just techno.....and it rocked.

Nick_G wrote:

Russ Gabriel - Peace EP

Mainly for 'Peace For Thought', an absolute stone-cold classic.

TEKNONUTTER wrote:

No worries :)


A hell of a lot of uk hardcore was techno influenced, that's true. For example sampled techno tracks, were made with much of the traditional techno elements, were created originally (ie with synths, drum machines, sequencers etc etc) with only a few samples, or techno overtones with sampled breaks. But there was also the other side of uk hardcore which was very hip hop, breakbeat, piano house & jungle, or completely sample influenced, and some of it with all of the above. Much of the stuff you listed was from that branch of it.

Me & a few of my mates tried to make analogies of techno & hardcore comparing both styles to older forms of music, & the closest we came to it at the time was techno vs electro, & hardcore vs hip hop (we were referring to oldskool early to mid 80s hardcore hip hop though, not the funk, rare groove, soul influenced late 80s stuff).

Tkon wrote:

EMMM m8,there's no way you could describe UK hardcore as techno,i've never heard anyone describe it as that esp back in the day.You WERE around back then or are you just telling porkies lol ;)You didnt seriously describe this as techno http://www.discogs.com/release/1948 or this http://www.discogs.com/release/754148 back then.

TEKNONUTTER wrote:

I think there was a large section of uk hardcore which was very techno influenced eg the Force Mass Motion / Rabbit City Records stuff, even the pure hardcore tracks had techno samples. Hardcore is a mixture & influence of lots of styles & was very evident of techno (belgium/dutch/detroit, the lot) as a main influence especially 90/91, therafter it became more jungle & breakbeat/piano & jungle etc from my experience anyway.

TEKNONUTTER wrote:

Anyway, back on topic. So many have mentioned some greats & I don't even want try to attempt a list, this one comes to mind for me.

Some may argue that this isn't techno, but to me it is, dark, evil, rocking shit to boot ->
The Possessed - Black Blood

G.Monk wrote:

My top 10:

001 Frequency - Kiss The Sky
002 Sequencial - Psychotronic (Long Demon Mix)
003 Frank De Wulf - Moribund (Remix)
004 Underworld - Rez
005 Jerry Duck - Pure Engine
006 Format - Solid Session
007 Soup - New York-London
008 Jens - Boo-Ya!
009 Dave Angel - Endless Emotions
010 N²O - On A Rise

G.Monk wrote:

Maybe not techno, but Stellar Supreme is a brilliant release.

Tkon wrote:

Yes influenced but its still not techno,just as a lot was influenced by hip hop with the beats and samples but you still wouldnt describe it as hip hop ;)

Tkon wrote:

And just downed this in soulseek,never heard this b4,great tune,love those dark strings,dark and evil,exactly as i like it,fuck that piano shit.I'd say you like a bit of Anibaldi m8 ;)

Obese_Kingz wrote:

im just going to blatantly say it - and i dont care about the re-percussions as its my opinion anyways

Cosmic Baby should have never attempted to make dance music - he should have stuck to opera and classical music. He made rubbish cheesy trance crap that was so far removed from techno and more akin to pop music. that cafe del mar track ruined the scene here - I FUCKIN HATED THAT CRAP - every wannabee DJ played it and introduced a new generation of fucktards into the scene...

I was happy with warehouse parties where there was about 2000 peoples all loving banging techno music - when the scene went commercial and raves became known as festivals where 10,000 people would rock up I knew that the whole scene would turn to shit.

you all diss crazy frog and scooter and all that rubbish these days - well cosmic baby was my 90's version of crazy frog.

Its all Cosmic Baby's fault.

DelroyVonCompton wrote:

Teste - The Wipe
Aphex - Xylem Tube & Digeridoo
Fix - Flash
Black Dog - Virtual (or was it 89?)
Random XS - Give You Body




WORD!

Tkon wrote:

Wow i'm not the only one who goes on an auld rant every now and then,got to agree with you Obese_Kingz that Stellar Supreme is pure shit and for someone to put that up there with the other amazing tunes already put up here doesnt say much for their musical judgement.I mean to say put that up against Icon by rhythm is rhythm or Polygon Window - Surfing On Sine Waves and there's no contest,K.O. lol

doubledipped wrote:

Ther Mover - Into wasteland
The Mover - Waves of Life
Biochip C - Cranefly Warriors Vol 2.
X-Crash - World Technology
Rhythim Is Rhythim - The Beginning
Black Dog - Techno Playtime
Ron Trent - Altered States
Psilocybin - killers
DJ ESP - The Earth Worm Sings

Plus many mentioned above and many many more.This was such a great period for techno.The list could go on and on ...

doubledipped wrote:

Ther Mover - Into wasteland
The Mover - Waves of Life
Biochip C - Cranefly Warriors Vol 2.
X-Crash - World Technology
Rhythim Is Rhythim - The Beginning
Black Dog - Techno Playtime
Ron Trent - Altered States
Psilocybin - killers
DJ ESP - The Earth Worm Sings

Plus many mentioned above and many many more.This was such a great period for techno.The list could go on and on ...

Tkon wrote:

And ofcourse Rhythim Is Rhythim - Drama ;)

TEKNONUTTER wrote:

Who needs trance when you've got Rhythim Is rhythim - It Is What It Is? Deep, melancholic, soulful, dark, funky, hypnotic, original, unique, ethereal.. you've got it all on one track. Oh, but it isn't 90-93, I'll get me coat..

Tkon wrote:

Ha ha nutter,dont make me laugh too hard,me heads thumpin lol
that is a tune though,fuck it lets go from 87 - 93 ;)
How about -

Zsa Zsa La Boum - Something scary http://www.discogs.com/release/56196
MCL - New York http://www.discogs.com/release/152024

G.Monk wrote:

Well that's your opinion. In my opinion Cosmic Baby is a very good producer. He made a lot of good QUALITY stuff. It all has to do with taste. A lot of people like productions from Black Dog. I really hate them (except Nort Route). But I won't consider them as crap (allthough I could...), it's just not my taste of music.

langster wrote:

Replace Black Dog with Aphex Twat and I would agree 100%. Cosmic Baby made some great stuff and although not to everyones taste, it certainly wasn't shite.

Tkon wrote:

Cosmic Baby V Black Dog,ha ha your having a laugh G.Monk,absolutely no contest for fucks sake and you are right it has all to do with taste but if you think cosmic baby even comes near to some of the brilliance of black dog your deluded my boy,DELUDED !!

fabriknos wrote:

music isn't a competition, but it's obvious from your posts that you consider it one... if you want to start comparing artists you're going to have to at least keep them in the same genre, measure their lasting influence on their style and the scene, how well their records were received, what other artists consider them major influences, and probably plenty of other criteria i can't think of right now. but with those few criteria, cosmic baby stacks up just fine against anyone in your list. MFS Records was one of the groundbreaking labels in early 90s dance music, just look at that backatalogue. yes there might not be so much melodic trance today if it wasn't for Cosmic Baby, but that's irrelevant to whether or not he is a permanently influential and creative artist.

fabriknos wrote:

again with the competition, these guys made completely different music, not even close! what are you comparing... what synths they used? what mastering engineer? come on now don't be childish.

Tkon wrote:

If you think Cosmic baby stacks up fine against rhythm is rhythm i wont even bother debating with you to be honest cos your obviously a poor lost soul and i pity you more than anything if you cant see the beauty of tunes like Icon,The dance or Nude photo against the crap of baby and his ilk.

Tkon wrote:

Your not making any sense to me at all,doesnt matter wether they made totally different music,you can still compare good music to bad,just as you can 2 films or 2 books,they dont need to be in the same genre to say 1 is bad and 1 is good ffs.

Jav wrote:

Beltram - Energy Flash
Hardfloor - Hardtrance Accperiance
Red Panet 2 - Cosmic Movement/Stardancer
D-Shake - Techno Trance
UR - Final Frontier
Area 10 Feat MK - Divsions
Liaisons D - Por La Patria
Afx - Didgeridoo
...to name a few

kompressorkanonen wrote:

Some of Cosmic Baby's stuff has aged poorly but "Transcendental Overdrive" and "Sweet Dream For Kaa", and a few tracks off "Stellar Supreme", are still big favourites of mine. I love Visons of Shiva too. The angle is obviously very European, with loads of synthpop and Tangerine Dream influences, so it's understandably not for everyone.
However mr. Cosmic made some great techno tracks in collaborations, so the notion that he sucks at making dance music are far fetched to say the least.

Injection
Phuture
Hypnotized
When You Feel It

paulo_m wrote:

Groundbreaking music. Techno Trance and Stardancer being 2 particular favourites of mine.

Tkon wrote:

Starting to turn into a trance thread this,once it doesn't start going towards mid 90's muck PLEASE lol ;)

G.Monk wrote:

Who decides what's the meaning of good music or bad music? Nobody. If you don't like the sound of Cosmic Baby, just don't listen to it. It's as easy as that.

I don't give a shit if somebody else likes artists like 50 Cent, The Rolling Stones, Britney Spears, Neil Diamond, George Michael, Bee Gees or The Beatles. As long as I don't have to listen to it, then that's fine with me.

The main question in this topic was:

What release(s) from that same era DO YOU still FIND amazing today?

But it seems to me this question is very hard to understand for some people.

Obese_Kingz wrote:

only in exposing TURD to the blind masses.

How about all the other german artists and labels from that time who did not get as much shine coz they were not making commercially friendly music..

303 Nation comes to mind, Caution Acid is another. This label PCP and all its sublabels

They were some of the real german techno sound - not that cheesy trance stuff that came out of Berlin




The dude never made techno in his life - it was all cheesy commercial trance rubbish more suited for the Eurovision Song Contest

RE: the topic - TECHNO 90-93 releases that are still amazing

Well thats easy - lots of records that came out of the US, some from UK, some from Germany and even some from Holland BUT nothing from Cosmic. He does not even come close in my Top 1000 techno tracks from that time.

Im over it - in ending I just want you all to remember he was a "classically trained penis who began at the Nuremberg Conservatory at the tender age of 7" - WOW!! hes sooo techno

ballmouse wrote:

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Futurhythm

http://www.discogs.com/artist/Vein+Melter

Releases there are techno.

Tkon wrote:

ha ha lol,next they will be telling us this is classic techno http://www.discogs.com/release/34068 and is comparable with anything done by May,Saunderson or Beltram,KNOBS.
Listen m8 these dummys will never understand so i think its best we leave it at that,only wasting our time ;)

TEKNONUTTER wrote:

Don't forget belgium :)

Tkon wrote:

How could we.

R&S,best techno label by a mile,respect to Renaat Vandepapeliere & Sabine Maes.

Alexis_Nembrode wrote:

amen to that.

and Harthouse, Tresor, UR

TEKNONUTTER wrote:

^Amen to the above^


Minus "Hardtrance Acperience" overrated & overplayed track imho.

Alexis_Nembrode wrote:

But you wouldnt say that to "TB Resuscitation" right?:)

kompressorkanonen wrote:

Some more

Pulse - Mikado
Din - Melon Ball
Visnadi - Hunt's Up
Inner Cosm - Stringed
Neuropolitique - Mind You Don't Trip
the Countdown FFM series
Aurasfere on EXP
Trauma (Djax)
Random XS - Give Your Body
Detroit Diesel - FU-Dimension

Alexis_Nembrode wrote:

And go beat, Djax Up, and so on...

TEKNONUTTER wrote:

That's better

fabriknos wrote:

why do you keep making this a competition between artists? i said "he stacks up against anyone in your list" using the criteria i really deliberately wrote down for you - influence on the scene, influence on other artists, success of the records. how much more clear can i get. also you throwing the obligatory May & Saunderson into the mix is a cheap trump card because of course they are the originators of techno and will always have that status, so you could say no one is comparable to them. anyways, you not liking cosmic's music is irrelevant. his impact in electronic music was huge, so rag on him all you want, keep playing your Nude Photo record (i have it too, and it's extremely boring, but you don't see me ragging on them because i have what's called "respect" for originators), but don't get offended if you see his name pop up here again on another favorites list :)

djfrankiebones wrote:

As history goes Cosmic Baby had a quick moment between 1992-1995 and I could understand how several people might mention the name.

I'd never go as far as saying he is the guy to blame for the cheeze-whiz wave of trance that followed when Cosmic Baby fell off like Humpty Dumpty.

I mean he greeted Florida never to be seen or heard from again, even with a few more releases.

Hey fellah's play nice, now.....

You did give me an idea on how to start a triple digit topic by telling you all the reasons why Stephan Bodzin is better then Jeff Mills, but I hate when Discogs becomes a Steamroom.

G.Monk wrote:

It's better to have a quick moment releasing some (in my opinion) good records than releasing year after year the same shit (although a lot of people will get angry when I mention the names of these producers).

Barry_Crumbcheeks wrote:

Do it do it! fan the flames! :P

Tkon wrote:

Sorry after a statement like that i wont be commenting again,just wasting my time on dumb trancelovers.

fabriknos wrote:

it's alright, i'm wasting my time too, there's no use talking intelligently to a flamer. i hope G.Monk releases his list of boring artists though, that should be interesting..

G.Monk wrote:

Oke; 2 examples

Jeff Mills for instance (because a lot of people just worship him as a God and I don't know why). He has made some great records. I won't and can't deny that, but he makes/made a lot of stuff which isn't/wasn't worthy enough to release. He just changes some rhythm patterns and puts a string an octave higher or lower and that's it. The stupid thing is that I even buy these records....

An other example is the Underground Resistance label. What the hell are they doing lately? (Almost) Every release since the last 4 years is complete crap (in my opinion).

Every artist has made crap. Every label has released crap. I don't care if somebody sees a Derrick May or a Juan Atkins or a Kevin Saunderson as a saint. If they didn't made or played electronic music back when it all started, someone else would have done it. So sorry, but if a new artist releases stuff which I like, he/she gets as much respect from me as the 'originators'.

It all comes down to respect for eachother and for artists who do their thing. You can still find a lot of great music outthere, although groups like 2 Unlimited made dance music more popular. It did change some (as it did with jazz, rock 'n roll, punk whatever...) but not the quality which many artists made (on quality labels). And you still have underground parties. So who gives a f*** if the Klubbheads make music for 15 year old kids?

Just don't go to these parties, don't listen to the radio stations who play this kind of music or watch TV channels like MTV. It's as easy as that.

So much frustrating is not good for your bloodpressure ;)

gmos wrote:

Cuntraversial!!!

gmos wrote:

I have to take issue with this, people made electronic music before those guys of course and people would've continued to make electronic music without the "originators". But it wouldn't have been the same, not a chance. And if you love techno you've got to respect what those guys did, that doesn't mean loving every single record they made though. That's just being a fan boy rather than a discerning music lover.