baggra wrote:

(fer trade ainnlay. RI vinyl hokay):

DRAGON -UNIVERSAL RADIO
TICKET - AWAKE , LET SLEEPING DOGS LIE
DR TREE
CLEVES
TAMBURLAINE
BENEDICTION MOON ( one side said ter bee terribool borin' Hare chants, orther hus mellotronm)

SCHTUNG
LIVING FORCE
LUTHA -EARTH
SPACEFARM -GOING TO ETERNITY
FARMYARD


Ainny idee wot thais loike?:
BUTLER
TAYLOR
QUINCY CONSERVE (surpossed ter bee funky)
GORDONS

Butterflyrobot wrote:

I have LPs of Quincy conserve and Lutha
I have CDs/Cdrs of the above and Dragon, Ticket, Cleves, Spacefarm and I know I have Living Force somewhere.

You can contact me at danielmcglynn@orcon.net.nz if you would like any.

As for discriptions

Butler was heavy but my memory is sketchy.

I remember the Gordons well. They were like a cross between Heavy Metal and Wire. They did not have the big bass sound of the heavy rock/metal groups of the time. (Few NZ groups did) They sounded like a new wave band going heavy metal. Very loud, dense guitar sound. The vocals are not as prominant
as most NZ music at the time. They showed occasional use of a repeditive swirl (the wire influence) which they later expanded on when they split and became the more "Krautrocky" Bailterspace. Dont know why I never got round to getting a LP or CD of theirs.

Quincy Conserve were always regarded as musicians miusicians. They tried their hand a t a lot of different things, but as a group most came from a Jazz background. so their sound does always seem to have a jazzy touch. I do not think they were especially funky for most of the bands life, (that came later) but they did have a horn section with sax and occasionally trumpet which often embellished the music. Sometimes a bit of funk. sometimes more psych/prog. The guitarists were good but tended to be understated - playing a background role on many songs. Their most distinctive feature was the vocalist Hayman, who I have never seen discribed but if I ghad to I would discribe as a higher pitched form of a rough blues voice. But the group had good songwriting abilities, and at their best were very good. But you have to try them.

baggra wrote:

Evah 'eard Mother Goose "Stuffed"?
Tha's ane 'orrid "prog" lp.

Butterflyrobot wrote:

Horrible. Maybe, but I do remember they were viewed pretty much as a bit of a novelty act from their stage performances.

baggra wrote:

Cornsarnin' Quincy Conserve , yew mentions FUNK.

Wallace feels 'im kin delivah a purtay corncise deffo o' genres sum say ur unpidgeon'olabool -prog, psych, th' diffrunce betwix 'ard an' 'eavy rock, bur FUNK hus allas gien Wallace a 'ard toime.
Wot exactlay ISS funk?
By dis, ah means wot moosical cormporsition spercificks cornstitute funk?
'ow duz yew disentangle funk frum tha 'orribool dungus, SOUL?
Iss funk closah ter jazz oar soul?

Kin thais quesshuns indeed bee answahid art awl?

Butterflyrobot wrote:

Ha ha! You won’t get an answer – at least not on this forum, I would think.

To begin: What is Funk? Friends I talk with do not intellectualise this so much, and the line is that you “have to feel it.”; Or if you don’t like dancing than you won’t like funk ; Or that you need rhythm to understand it. Funk has its roots in soul. Funk is more overtly dance music. I do not see Jazz as a natural progression.

A quick look at Wikipedia says this “Funk de-emphasizes melody and harmony, and brings a strong rhythmic groove of electric bass and drums to the foreground. Unlike R&B and soul songs, which had many chord changes, funk songs are often based on an extended vamp on a single chord.” Which says it very well. And also later notes that Funk bands have large horn sections.


I am no musician but I’m told that the guitarists who do funk have a "less-is-more" approach- they play simple and subtle which goes right against what rock guitarists are taught. It's the bassist that gets to have fun. Overall funk is good time fun music that's generally pretty easy to listen to - limited chord progressions, no odd time signatures. It is about keeping the people in the groove, and dancing.

I have heard it said a few times that once you start experimenting “It ain’t funk” –and Jazz is about releasing from the normal constraints. So I see Quincy Conserve as more Jazz and less Funk. Others may disagree - they do have the deemphisised guitar and the up front brass.

I don’t know if there is a definitive end point of Funk. You can get start talking about adding more like polyrhythms, or using syncopation (that’s where I start to get lost) . I think as you get more into a jazz mode you get the more complex things. You probably have to be a musician to really understand.

I guess I don’t get it simply because im lyrically and vocally oriented... and tend to lean towards harmony and melody than actual rhythm... AND I DO NOT DANCE!!!! (just subtly added there)

Accumulator_M wrote:

You got either of the Lutha or QC LPs for sale?

Accumulator_M wrote:

http://www.discogs.com/Dr-Tree-Dr-Tree/release/791193

I contributed this listing and I also have a copy of this amazing NZ record for sale. More jazz-funk than prog though.

moshka-medicine wrote:

wtf did mr walace king of eagles sod off to?