Ekto-Basilisk wrote:

I just noticed they posted a ton of stuff on Juno. Are any of these random tracks any good?
http://www.junodownload.com/labels/Unnatural/

Robostyx wrote:

I think all tracks are new..
nothing interesting to me except two tracks
1. "Mirage"
2. "The Gate To The Past"

Btw, imo the tracks are expensive
For 1 track at 320kbps asks 2.04 euros :S
too bad, no WAV's :/

Probably i'll buy that "Mirage" track though..the part of the sample between 01:12->01:59 drives me crazy :O

Ekto-Basilisk wrote:

I totally missed that there are no WAVs. What a rip.

RabidHummingbird wrote:

i have to check out more California Sunshine. The only track I have heard from them is "Black Moon" remix from the Killing Joke Wardance Remix album (which I enjoyed)

Gizmex wrote:

Maybe someone could explain me why digital releases are as expensive as physical. IMO should be much cheaper. No pressing costs, no shipping costs, no distributor costs....

kwulf wrote:

BTW, does anyone of you know this California Sunshine track (http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/184816#2330644 , Round Two, 1st track - for sample) ??

Macrophage wrote:

The california sunshine track you're looking for sounds definitely like "Whirpool" for me, released on "Sinking Sand".

Ekto-Basilisk wrote:

Gizmex: it is an industry-wide failure as far as I am concerned. No wonder people go through illicit channels to procure their music.

Gizmex wrote:

Number of labels & artists is still growing. Number of people buying music is the same, or lower (people have lot of other things to spend money, global recession, blah blah) anyway I think it's time to think about consolidation in the underground music industry & lower the prices.

bondi wrote:

I don't love California Sunshine I hate them

Robostyx wrote:

Finally there are available some WAVs from Har-el http://www.junodownload.com/products/1435479-02.htm
It's the"gate to the past" album
but, 13.11 euros for a digital download the entire album??
And unfortunately that not affects only Har-el's music there..
everything is expensive
i just don't get it
my last CD purchase was "VA Suncokreti"
a proper CD with art work, AND with shipping cost including, the total price was 13.40 euros
and now if we want to have this album we have to pay the same price just for 9 WAVs
.. whatever...

kwulf wrote:

It's such a rip-off. Any sane music-lover naturally would seek a work-around to this (piracy). The music business is digging its own grave.

inexpressible wrote:

since the 80s :)

Ekto-Basilisk wrote:

I really want to know how many tracks these people sell. I don't imagine that it is a lot.

Euphobia wrote:

ULTIVA RECORDS

Label News, Release Schedule:

ULTCD003 California Sunshine - Dark Side Of Brain album; a collection of the best unreleased Har-el's and Miko's tunes which have hit the Goa dancefloors in '90 and supported in sets by Sven Vath. Juno Reactor, DJ Miko, Goa Gil, Avi Nissim...

ULTCD004 VA - Patuljci; an experimental forest/suomi compilation

fabriknos wrote:

it's greed, pure and simple. these "companies" (really, just a few guys in an apartment most of the time) see the opportunity to profit during a time of uncertainty when it comes to the distribution platform. WAVs are instant, which satisfies those with short patience (a growing trend in consumers these days). they can download them and spin them in a set in a matter of minutes versus waiting for a physical CD or record to arrive in the post. the convenience factor is what these people are relying on, what their entire business model is relying on. it's a legitimate view, considering how many people condense their music collections onto computers and portable media devices, rather than physically picking an album from the shelf, turning on equipment, cue'ing up the CD or vinyl, then repeat for the next album... for me, that is part of the fun of listening to music, but for most, that is a thing of the past as convenience wins out over all else.

anyways, complete rip off if you ask me, and yes this is a huge reason why p2p is still so active today. until the new digital distribution platform is refined in such a way that artists profit and the consumers do not go out of pocket nearly as much, then you will see that p2p activity stay very busy.

Robostyx wrote:

BOOM! http://www.arabesquedistributi...2060&Itemid=99999999

I just can't wait... =) =) =)

Robostyx wrote:

Tracklist:

1. Circle Of Light (Remix)

2. Alala (Baboonation Mix)

3. Kamikaze

4. Lastrance

5. Subliminal Desert

6. Untitled

7. Cosmic Voodoo

8. Threshold

9. The Beast

"Kamikaze" + "Alala" samples here http://www.discogs.com/release/1261291
"Subliminal Desert" sample here http://www.discogs.com/release/1272806

zoltar wrote:

It's out now @ Saikosounds. :) Never been a fan... Are the new samples promising?

TheTreeTribe wrote:

Not sure if this has been discussed here before, but anyone notice how the BPC track Midian [thanks draeke] has pretty much the exact same tune as CS's Coming Home which was made later ??