DjFonPlaz wrote:

Hello folks!

I made and open the OFFICIAL Gabba Tracklist World website, specialized in playlist and track ids. The idea start long time ago, where gtw was hosted on public forum community.

The target is to have a professioanl database where people can find tracklist of his prefereed mix, and help others to find out the lost gabba tunes.

Some special features on it at the moment :
You can add tracklist, edit, export (single file, all tracklist), put tracklist as restricted (for precious sets), request a tracklist and many others functions.

I hosted and make it in a month and is my first experiment with web applications. So (probably) you can find some bugs/error or you can help us to update and better it! (there is a menu, called Suggestions, where you can add tips and infos).

Sign in for free and enjoy this project : http://www.gabbatracklistworld.com

legumes-SALES wrote:

Hm, it seems like I'd have to register there in order to use the site at all. No, thanks.


By the way, are you going to add tracklists you find somewhere in the web?

DjFonPlaz wrote:

if you know the old project http://gabbatracklistworld.forumfree.net/ , you should know what i mean. we are a group that share and try to made tracklist of some interessant sets.


i think it's necessary nowdays, in the web era...

vague98 wrote:

I also think some parts should be open without registration.
Keep all stuff with links in them closed just like @ planet-core.com
Then there s still the problem with info stealing, but still I do agree that u will lose loads of potential visitors by forcing them to register.

Jayfive wrote:

Indeed. why not have the forum visible but some or all info hidden until you log in. that way people can at least see what the site looks like first.

http://www.gabbatracklistworld...ex.php?general=rules
"(3) - You can share links only for free mixes and not for things under copyright."

Hmm. Unless its a mix of your own material, its under copyright.

Best amend that to say something like what i put here. But shorter obviously

DjFonPlaz wrote:

uhm, i don't know if its true this...

just think at all parties recorded and shared on internet (tape packs, live-recordings of parties/night, or hosted via radio).
or (for example) my sets, your sets, sets of people on this forum...

should be not under copyright... (if artist that mix/play it share on the web). he paid the records...
they will be under copyright when label release it i think...
but of course, i'm not sure about this!

about "registration", i've tried on old forum the access without registration : the people enter, paste & copy and go out...
when i put the access only with registration, i record more partecipation! so i put the access only for registered user! (hey, only very few informations to insert... nobody is dead in the past, i don't look where is this main problem...)

anyway, tnx for the tips. i will take them in consideration!

traffic_cone wrote:

no, if a tune is copyrighted material, you don't necessarily have the right to distribute it as you wish just because you're not charging money for it.

if it was ok, it wouldn't be illegal to fileshare.

it is technically illegal, just like tape packs are certainly illegal. people get away with it yeah, that's not the same thing as being allowed to ;)

DjFonPlaz wrote:

ok! but i think it's a bit "different" share a set like "lenny dee live at fucking party 96" instead of this http://www.discogs.com/Endymio...ix-21/release/890477 (for example).

no? maybe both are illegal... but the first is less exposed to the spotlight :)

Jayfive wrote:

Not really. The artists will have been paid (or at will have supposed to have been paid) royalties for the tracks on the EPK compilation and will almost certainly have been asked if the tracks can be included.

A mix recorded at an event will not be with permission of the artists (or indeed the DJ playing) and no royalties will have been received.

It does happen though - ive seen events like Helter Skelter where Djs would hand the tune theyd just finished with to someone who would write down the artist title and label for the MCPS.

johnbennett wrote:

so surely then,(going by the rules and laws of copyright).. it would make it illegal to upload any dj mix (tape rip, cd rip etc)onto any site wherever?...
i once took issue over a track that was released onto a mix cd some years ago (and i cant remember which tune or what cd)..
i went to see a soliciter about where i stood legally on the matter,..
i was told that although "copyright laws" had been broken(ie i had not been previously consulted by the company asking to use my track prior to pressing and distribution of the cd).. that no soliciter would actually bother to take up the case .. because the costs to take a case to court over a couple of hundred cds would be pointless.. i assumed that this is why some mix cds generally go out without seeking track writer permission (nightmare in rotterdam cd to cite as an example) they never answered my emails or calls regarding the matter.. and if it wasnt for steffen at soundbase hasseling them for me they would still be not acknowledging it ... and even still.. ive had an official rotterdam sales statement .. but no payment has yet been made.. and the sold 2,450 cds in the first year.

legumes-SALES wrote:

nope, didn't know it. ;) I was just wondering if you are harvesting forums and such for playlist, and if so, whether or not give the original editors credit.





I don't get it.

Jayfive wrote:

Yes, but in as much as it was (still is) illegal to record off the radio.

The law is impossible to enforce and most copyright holders understand the benefits of the distribution of things like bedroom mixes as promotional material for their music.

Simply put:
You hear a track, you want a track, you buy a track :D

And even if cpyright holders didnt like it as you say it wouldnt be cost-effective to chase people down. Though normally producers and labelowners get more narky about event promoters (HTID et al) put out multi-cd packs of recorded live sets for sale and the artists, much less the DJs dont see a penny of the profit made.

And theres some profit to be made - a fairly well known hardcore promoter once told mne that if it werent for tape packs, his event would have run for as long as it did. Nuff said.




It wasnt this was it:
http://www.discogs.com/Various...tality/release/48640




Hells bells. 2 and a half thousand for a Cd by one of the biggest labels promoting one of the biggest and long running events? Not much hope for everyone else then - no wonder everyones going digital.

DjFonPlaz wrote:

uhm, but we wrote tracklists of live/set recorded at party, or not-well knowed tape. off course, we don't copy and paste tracklist of cd listed on discogs for example (i think to it as stupid).

in fact, usually, official release are not take in consideration on GTW website (because you can find it on discogs, or you can buy and watch the tracklist yourself in back-cover).

its what you mean right? :)

johnbennett wrote:

no jay .. this was the one..
http://www.discogs.com/Various...ol-II/release/121847

legumes-SALES wrote:

sort of. In fact, I asked, because I have a few lists up for contribution. ;)