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The concept of "varannan" (every other). Have you tried it?

Some years ago I got an idea together with my girlfriend (not on Discogs btw). We're both very interested in many different genres of music and we have some pretty large collections (+5000 & +1500 records).

As you perhaps can imagine... it was a problem to decide what to play. Even though we have similar taste it's far from identical.

We said to each other: "Why not play "varannan låt" (translation from Swedish to English: every other song)?" That was the general idea anway at the beginning.

*thinking... remembering more facts about it*

The very first time was when Maria (read: my girlfriend) had a birthday party when she became 30 (she's now 37). With the invitations to the birthday party we sent a note that people should either bring their favourite records or mail us what they wanted to hear at the party.

That didn't work out so good because most people in general aren't interested in music in the same way as we are. To be honest... most people don't care about music at all. And even though I already knew THAT, it was proven to me once more because the visitors to that party was just as ignorant as most people are in general.

After that first failure we tried it ourselves in stead. In the beginning we used a form that we now call "Varannan Collection" that means that you pick every other track from your collection. That requires you to either have a pathetically small collection so it can be moved around or that you live together with the person that your doing it with.

Even though we lived together (at the time, we're now "särbo" (translation: still together but living in our own separate flats)) it was always hard to get a nice flow. It took too long to fetch/look for the track you wanted to play.

After a while we decided that you had to pick out the records in advance so that we could minimize the time it took before the next track was played.

Most of the time we now either have a limit of 20 or 30 records (it could be vinyls, CD's, cassettes, DVD's, minidiscs etc) that you should pick out before you start to play any records. You can then pick any tracks on those.

We've then tried this with a lot of people and it works really well with everyone that's really interested in music. The people that aren't interested enough don't understand what's fun doing it.

The big thing isn't just to play any track as soon as it's your turn. That would be really boring. In stead it's more fun to try to follow the previous musical choice by playing something similar.

To be able to do that you must plan very carefully what to bring to the "varannan party". When I do it with Maria I never know for sure what to expect and that is really cool.

We've done it so many times no that we've created some words to describe some aspects of it.

1. Follow = Play something similar.

2. Ignore = Ignore the choice of the previous participant. You play what you want without any thought of matching the music that was played before you.

3. Nude = Even though you want to... you have nothing to play that is even remotly similar.

4. Counter = You play something even harder or something better or something that creates more "hands in the air" etc.

5. Terrorize = You play something that you KNOW all or some of the other participants are going to absolutely hate.

I know of at least one occasion when some oggers (without me) had a "varannan session". Read the party reports made by kompressorkanonen and C303 here.

The rule of playing one track from the beginning to end is nice in theory but if you're six people that are going to do it for a long time it isn't going to be fun.

When we do it now we have a rule that you should avoid to play a track more than five minutes unless you've earnt that time by playing shorter tracks previously during the session.

Is it fun?

YES!

Please post your-tracklists if you try it!
posted over 4 years ago. ( permalink | report )
easy_e wrote:
Damn, it is going to be hard to find back the complete tracklist of Tördon!
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This thread is connected to the party report here

Check Vinylmania-c's page for the pictures!
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Kino wrote:
'tagteaming'
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djpepsi wrote:
The very first time was when Maria (read: my girlfriend) had a birthday party when she became 30 (she's now 37).

lol, hope she doesn't read this, i think your balls might be in a sling :P
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wrote:
actually, we did this a couple of weeks ago with 3 computers, two mp3 players, and one turntable. we recorded it too. it's insane. it's SO much fun. we also have cooking parties where this occurs...
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*jealous* I want to do that too! Too bad my girlfriend isn't as much into music as I am, nor are my friends :(
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mayday wrote:
Yeah this is excellent fun!
Tried it with cthulhu303, although we weren't strict about every other record. We just took turns while the other was hunting for the right vinyls to play next. So sometimes 3 each back to back sometimes 2 or something like that!
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Phatman_G wrote:
Same boat as little_alien.... very jealous....
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Mad-E wrote:
iamelectron and mentalist used to do this all the time in the Spare Room, except it would quickly get very messy.
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Mad-E wrote:
wow. what i just typed sounds a bit.. umm... gay.
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mayday wrote:
lol!
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You're right. As soon as you let iamelectron near a turntable, the results will be very ghey indeed...
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ijmccoy wrote:
i sometimes do this with 2 mates when we play out instead of having an hour or so each
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Yeah, Storm and me had a mix session a time ago, he had the left recordplayer and I had the right, then we mixed our own records. :)
Fun as hell. It's like a competition, but when we speak electronic music Storm always wins...
I have got some secret tunes hidden which he doesn't know I have so next time I'll kick butt! ;)

Beer is also a perfect ingredience. :))
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Brad.R wrote:
another interesting thing to do is pick two totally different records like say a Namlook ambient record and a gabber record, and have a tag-team where you try to get from point a to point b smoothly.
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aion wrote:
yes I think there will be a Tordön next year, in the middle of the summer 2006: Tordön v2.0. I've already thought through the planning as well as allocated some "free spinning time" for example to things like above mentioned :)

Varannan party is nice.
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aion wrote:
and then we'll have some "krash och bang-lyckan" *LOL*
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Zyron wrote:
Wow, Ole-dolyckan! :D
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I'm going to try a new variant tonight together with Maria. We'll pick only six records each.

Playlist coming soon :-D
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It was short and intensive. Here is the tracklist:

Stormbringer:

Etnica "Intense Visitation" from Tribute / Intense Visitation

I bought this some months ago but its rarity and the price I had to pay for it does prevent me from playing it :-D I've actually only played it once before!

Mini (AKA Maria... she's only 1:55 tall)

Dead Kennedys "Viva Las Vegas" from Fresh Fruit For Rotting Vegetables

She played this track in tribute to the evening (read: ESC). The Swedish contribution (which is really bad) also is about Las Vegas. Maria played a track from this album the last time we had a "varannan" session at Vinylmania-c's place. She then played "Holiday In Cambodia". It took me only seconds to realize that the band that I thought did the original version only did a cover of it! I'm talking about Organic? :-D

Stormbringer

Massive Attack "Danny The Dog" from Danny The Dog

We both like Massive Attack but this is so rare that I knew that she hadn't heard it before. We used to live together for eight years or so and we've done this so many times already that it's hard to surprise eachother.

Mini

Fun-Da-Mental "Wandering Soul" from There Shall Be Love!

Maria is very keen on the Asian sound vs. the European sound. I must confess that I've also been influenced by her. If you want a great record in the genre then check out MIDIval PunditZ. We've played it so much during our "varannan" sessions that we can't use it anymore :-D

Stormbringer

Sutekh "Miasma" from Miasma EP

Great minimal groovy techno. I wish I had some more stuff made by this artist.

Mini

Dia Psalma "Vemodsvals" from Efter Allt

A touch och Swedish Folk Music combined with Punk Rock. It was very popular in Sweden in the mid-nineties.

Stormbringer

Slayer "Raining Blood" from another edition of Decade Of Aggression Live

Yes, I'm quite lazy sometimes and I have a lot of releases to submit (about 1000 or so). I brought this for three reasons: 1. I like it a lot. 2. I was in a hurry when chosing my tracks, 3. I knew Maria would bring at least one A Perfect Circle track... I had planned to use it to counter it... but I had to use it in advance :-(

Mini

G.B.H. "City Baby Attacked By Rats" from Burning Ambitions: A History Of Punk

Maria always surprice me when we play "varannan"! This time she went "Punk". Three Punk tracks out of six! Yep, she got me good :-)

Maria then got a bonus track from the same record that I wanted to hear: Killing Joke "The Wait" or was it me who got it as a bonus ;-)

Stormbringer

Skinny Puppy "Blood On The Wall" from Bites

I've been a big fan of Skinny Puppy since 1985 and I was so happy last year when I saw them live (finally!!!). Maria has always been hard to convince that they're great but she's beginning to "see the light". The live show at the Arvika Festival was only the first step. Her first words when I played this were "I want this too".

Mini

A Perfect Circle "The Hollow" from Mer De Noms

She knows that I don't like Tool and even though I like A Perfect Circle better they're not among my favourites. Damn... I used my Slayer track too early!

Stormbringer

Public Energy "Three O' Three" from Hemi-Sync

I need some acid. This was my choice this evening. Appearantly I had played at least once before (Maria recognized it very well already after some seconds) so it was a failiure. But it's a great track so I'm happy anyway. It would have been better though to pick a "new" great track than an "old" great track ;-)

Mini

Dernière Volonté ? from ?

She got a CDr from a friend and we think that it's the best tracks from several CD's. We spent a long time in front of the computer trying to find a shop selling their stuff without any luck. I'll have to ask xdefenestratorx where to buy this because I want it too!!!


We're going to prepare food now with Dead Kennedys in the speakers!

Good evening fellow oggers!
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And where were I at this point?
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Sorry Mika :-( We didn't invite you this time because we decided very late that we were going to have a "varannan" session this evening. Don't worry! We're soon going to do it again and then you'll be invited too!
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Am I the only one who has no idea what the fuck you're talking about?
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Did you read the initial post? I know that my English sucks but is it really that bad?
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yes, mine is bätter!
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Yep! We had another varannan session yesterday and this time I'll write down all the tracks we played. I've been too lazy recently so even though we've done it more than ten times during the last couple of months none of those sessions have been listed in this thread.

The participators this time were:

Stryknin
Stormbringer
ukiro
Mini
Endorwyn
Patrik

The rules were simple: Bring a minimum of 20 records and a maximum of 30 records. Maximum time to play a track = 5 minutes.

ukiro and Stryknin took photos.

Stryknin:
Ryoji Ikeda Op.1 [For 9 Strings] : II from Op.

Stormbringer:
Sophia (2) Humanicide from Deconstruction Of The World

ukiro:
A Produce The Golden Needle from Slumberland (Episode One)

Mini:
Fun-Da-Mental Wandering Soul from There Shall Be Love!

Stryknin:
Murcof Mo from Martes

Stormbringer:
Brendan Perry Medusa from the vinyl of Eye Of The Hunter (not in Discogs yet!).

ukiro:
Gåte (not in Discogs) Bruremarsj Frå Jämtland

Mini:
Slipknot Vermilion Part 2 from Vol. 3: (Subliminal Verses)

Stryknin:
Tim Hecker (They Call Me) Jimmy from Radio Amor

Stormbringer:
Håkan Lidbo Undo Undone from After The End

ukiro:
Goa Experience Ethnic Modul from Ekinoxe / Ethnic Modul

Mini:
Young Gods, The The Sound In Your Eyes from Second Nature

Stryknin:
Squarepusher Venus No.17 from Square Window

Stormbringer:
Download Flight Of Luminous Insects from III

ukiro:
DJ Randy & Mac Zimms Monkey Shines from Smoke 007

Mini:
Yöjalka Ranblax from Beats And Beyond

Stryknin:
Wave Slaves Nightstalker from Test Tube EP

Stormbringer:
Acid Junkies Theme From The Acid Junkies from Paranoid Experience

ukiro:
Space Demon Lysergical Zones from Volume 2

Mini:
Düreforsög Chess - Nut For Me (not in Discogs yet)

Stryknin:
Kid606 Catstep/My Kitten/Catnap Vatstep DSP from Down With The Scene

Stormbringer:
Einstürzende Neubauten Hirnlego from Haus Der Lüge

ukiro:
Shpongle Crystal Sculls (Dance Mix) from Raja Ram's Stash Bag Volume 2

Mini:
Natacha Atlas Moustahil from Halim

Stryknin:
Hypo Pil Pil from Karaoke A Capella

Stormbringer:
Volfram Mentally Divergent from Gothenburg Electro City 1

ukiro:
Visitors, The (2) Let Me Out from Experience - Psy-Harmonics Volume 5

Mini:
Download The Guide from Effector

Stryknin:
Legendary Pink Dots, The Is It Something I Said? from Nemesis Online

Stormbringer:
Laibach The Final Countdown (Juno Reactor Version - Beyond The Infinite Mix) from Final Countdown

ukiro:
Armin vs. M.I.K.E. Intruder from Intruder / Pound

Mini:
Tool (2) Die Eier Von Satan from Ænima

My sister Endorwyn now arrives together with her boyfriend Patrik so they join us

Endorwyn:
Das Ich Erde Ruft from Morgue

Patrik:
Devo Mongoloid from Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo!

Stryknin:
Venetian Snares Make Ronnie Rocket from Higgins Ultra Low Track Glue Funk Hits 1972 - 2006

Stormbringer:
Procs Frequenters (unreleased demo track)

ukiro:
Ka-Sol Scraqp from Apsara

Mini:
Procs Aghast from Boldly Audio

Endorwyn:
Texas Faggott Impastil from Petoman's Peflett

Patrik:
In Slaughter Natives Fifth Skin from Sacrosancts Bleed

Stryknin:
Converter Coma from Coma

Stormbringer:
Pankow Brucia Europa Brucia from Pankow

ukiro:
Vitalic My Friend Dario (I don't know which mix) from My Friend Dario

Mini:
Peaches Suck And Let Go from The Teaches Of Peaches

Endorwyn:
Dead Can Dance Cantara from Within The Realm Of A Dying Sun

Patrik:
Lars Demian (not in Discogs yet) Lögnen

Stryknin:
Autechre The Trees from Untilted

Stormbringer:
Squarepusher Schizm Track #2 Mix from Anti-Greylord Protection Scheme Prelude

ukiro:
Encephaloïd Disturbance Anaesthetic Influx from Fragments

Mini:
D.A.D. (is it possible that no records have been submitted yet? Strange!) Riding With Sue

Endorwyn:
Dinah Washington Mad About The Boy (not in Discogs yet)

Patrik:
Men They Couldn't Hang, The The Lion And The Unicorn from The Lion And The Unicorn / Kingdom Of The Blind? or was it some other record? I don't remember.

Stryknin:
Chris Liebing Disorder And Chaos from Evolution

Stormbringer:
Das Ich Dein Leben (Imminent Starvation Remix) from Re_Laborat / Re_Animat

ukiro:
Shamanic Tribes on Acid Drugged To The Eyeballs from Drugged To The Eyeballs

Mini:
Tool (2) Ænema from Ænima

Endorwyn:
Peace, Love And Pitbulls Be My TV from Thåström

Patrik:
Therapy? Hey Satan - You Rock from High Anxiety

Patrik gets a free bonus track because his tracks are so short.

Patrik:
White Zombie Electric Head (I don't know which part!) from Astro-Creep: 2000

Stryknin:
DK Murder Was The Bass (I don't know which version!) from Murder Was The Bass

Stormbringer:
Missy Elliott Get Ur Freak On (Superchumbo's Superfreakon Remix) from Get Ur Freak On

ukiro:
Killing Joke Exorcism (Live In King's Chamber, Cairo August 1993 Mix) Edit from Exorcism

ukiro and Stryknin had to leave to fetch a bus 03:00. The next wasn't going until 05:00. The rest of us continued for almost two more hours.

Mini:
Fun-Da-Mental Tagai Soul from There Shall Be Love!

Endorwyn:
De Sex Apornas Armé (not in Discogs yet) Aporna Visar Hur

Patrik:
Everlast Ends from Whitey Ford Sings The Blues

Stormbringer:
Faith No More Malpractice from Angel Dust

Mini:
Smashing Pumpkins, The Eye from Lost Highway

Endorwyn:
Vangelis Movement 2 from Mythodea - Music For The NASA Mission: 2001 Mars Odyssey

Patrik:
Catatonia Dead From The Waist Down from Dead From The Waist Down

Stormbringer:
Cure, The The Blood from The Head On The Door

Mini:
Stakka Bo Terrorist from The Great Blondino

Endorwyn:
Twice A Man Stone And Moor from Driftwood

Patrik:
Old Joe Clarks (not in Discogs yet) Breaking Ground

Stormbringer:
Dernière Volonté Le Poison from Les Blessures De L'Ombre

Mini:
A Perfect Circle A Stranger from Thirteenth Step

Endorwyn:
Les Negresses Vertes Zobi La Mouche 7" (not in Discogs yet).

Patrik:
B-52's Dance This Mess Around from The B-52's

Stormbringer:
Consolidated America Number One from The Myth Of Rock

Mini:
Young Gods, The Attends from Second Nature

Endorwyn:
Delerium Consensual Worlds from Semantic Spaces

Patrik:
KSMB Sex Noll Två (not in Discogs yet!).

Stormbringer:
Teddybears Sthlm Magic Finger (not in Discogs yet).

Mini:
Wall Of Voodoo Mexican Radio (I'm not sure but it was perhaps this release) Call Of The West

Endorwyn:
Madonna Beautiful Stranger from? Beautiful Stranger

Patrik:
N*E*R*D Lapdance from? In Search Of...

Stormbringer:
Svenska Akademien Giriga Labbar from Snapphaneklanen

Mini:
D.A.D (still can't find them in Discogs???) Grow Or Pay

Endorwyn:
Electric Boys All Lips 'N' Hips 7" (not in Discogs yet)

Patrik:
The Snake (not in Discogs yet) That woman got me drinks (??? hard to read).

Stormbringer:
Pantera Goddamn Electric (not in Discogs yet).

Mini:
Rasmus, The In The Shadows (not in Discogs yet).

Endorwyn:
Weeping Willows Try It Once Again from Broken Promise Land

Patrik:
Magnus Johansson (not in Discogs yet) Vakna Nu Annelie

Stormbringer:
Death In June Smashed To Bits (In The Peace Of The Night) from Take Care And Control

And that was the last track for the "morning". My sister Eva (Endorwyn) and Patrik left and me and Maria (Mini) went to bed listening to the whole first side of "Take Care And Control" I was supposed to go up and turn of the vinyl carver when the record ended but I fell asleep :-D
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0x00 wrote:
Well done.
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Rooger wrote:
Sound like fun - and FYI, D-A-D is here - they have changed the format of the abbreviaton several times.
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Nice night! :)
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Yesterday we ( Stormbringer/Mini/ Stryknin/ ukiro) had a marathon "varannan" from 16:50 to 03:10 at the "Bunker" (ukiro's place). That must be the longest varannan we've had so far. A lot of new (and old) interesting music was played and hopefully ukiro will post the tracklist and photos soon. Thank you for a nice evening!
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ukiro wrote:
I'll get to work on the tracklist soon-ish, but a total of 96 tracks were played, so it will take bloody forever... lucky I've got nothing better to do =)
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