New Order ‎– Movement

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Dreams Never End 3:13
Truth 4:37
Senses 4:45
Chosen Time 4:07
ICB 4:33
The Him 5:29
Doubts Even Here 4:16
Denial 4:20

Versions

Title Label Cat# Country Year
Movement (LP, Album) Factory, Factory FACT. 50, FACT 50 UK 1981
Movement (Cass, Album) Factory (US), Factory FACTUS 50C, FACT. 50 US 1981
Movement (Cass, Album) Factory FACD4-05 Canada 1981
Movement (Cass, Album) Factory, Base Record FACT. 50, FAC 50 MC Italy 1981
Movement (Cass, Album) GAP Records, Factory TC-FACOZ 1007 Australia 1981
Movement (Cass, Album) Factory TC-FACT 50 Malaysia 1981
Movement (Cass, Album) Factory FACTC 50 New Zealand 1981
Movement (LP, Album) Factory, Factory FACOZ 1007, FACT. 50 Australia 1981
Movement (LP, Album) Factory, Factory FACT. 50, FACT 50 New Zealand 1981
Movement (LP, Album) Factory (US), Factory (US) FACTUS 50, FACT. 50 US 1981
Movement (LP, Album) Factory, Factory V FACT. 111-1, V FACT 111-1 Portugal 1981
Movement (LP, Album) Factory, Factory FACT. 50, 670.9146 Brazil 1981
Movement (LP, Album) Base Record, Factory FACT 50, FACT. 50 Italy 1981
Movement (LP, Album) Factory, Factory, Virgin, Virgin FACT. 50, FACT 50, VG 50103, 062-VG 50103 Greece 1981
Movement (LP, Album) Factory, Virgin FACT. 50, 201894 France 1981
Movement (LP, Album, Blu) Factory FACD 05 Canada 1981
Movement (LP, Album, Red) Factory FACD 05 Canada 1981
Movement (LP, Album) Factory, Nuevos Medios, Nuevos Medios FACT. 50, 33-004 L, 33-004 Spain 1982
Movement (LP, Album) Boudisque, Factory, Factory VR22494, FACT. 50, FACT 50 Netherlands 1983
Movement (LP, Album, RE) Factory, Factory, Factory FACT 50, FACOZ 1007, FACT. 50 Australia 1983
Movement (LP, Album) Factory, Factory FACT. 50, YX-7350-AX Japan 1985
Movement (LP, Album) Factory, Factory Benelux, Factory, Factory Benelux FACT. 50, FACT 50 Belgium 1985
Movement (CD, Album) Factory, Factory, Factory FACD. 50, Facd 50, FACD Nr.50 UK 1986
Movement (CD, Album) Factory, Factory FACD. 50, 30215 France 1986
Movement (CD, Album, Car) Factory FACD. 50 UK 1986
Movement (Cass, Album) Factory FACT. 50c UK 1986
Movement (Cass, Album + Box) Factory, Factory Fact 50c, FACT 50c UK 1986
Movement (CD, Album, 1st) Factory (US), Factory FACTUS 50 CD, FACT. 50 US 1988
Movement (CD, Album, RE, 2nd) Factory (US), Factory (US) Factus 50CD, FACD. 50 US 1988
Movement (CD, Album, RE, 3rd) Factory (US), Factory (US) Factus 50CD, FACD. 50 US 1988
Movement (Cass, Album, RE) Factory FACT. 50c US 1988
Movement (CD, Album) Factory, Factory FACD. 50, 830 404-2 Canada 1989
Movement (CD, Album) Festival Records, Factory, Factory D 30406, FACD. 50, FACD 50 Australia 1990
Movement (CD, Album, RE) Qwest Records, Warner Bros. Records 9 45089-2 US 1992
Movement (CD, Album, RE, Promo) London Records 520018-2 UK & Europe 1992
Movement (Cass, Album, RE) London Records 520018-4 UK & Europe 1992
Movement (CD, Album, RE) London Records POCD-1883 Japan 1993
Movement (Cass, Album) Qwest Records, Qwest Records, Factory, Factory, Warner Bros. Records, Warner Bros. Records 4-45089, 9 45089-4 US 1993
Movement (CD, Album, RE) London Records 520018-2 UK & Europe 1994
Movement (CD, Album, RE) London Records AMCE-6100 Japan 2000
Movement (CD, Album, RE) London Records 8573 81953-2 UK & Europe 2000
Movement (CD, Album, RE) London Records WPCR-75041 Japan 2005
Movement (CD, Album + CD, Comp + , RM, Col) Rhino Records (2) R2 516185 US 2008
Movement (CD, Album + CD, Comp + , RM, Col) London Records, Rhino Records (2) 2564693694 UK 2008
Movement (CDr, Album + CDr, Comp + , Promo) London Records, Warner Bros. Records, Rhino Records (2) none US 2008
Movement (CDr, Album + CDr, Comp + , Promo) Rhino Records (2) none UK 2008
Movement (CD, Album + CD, Comp + , RM, RE, 2nd) Rhino Records (2) R2 516185 US 2009
Movement (CD, Comp, RM, RP, Col) Rhino Records (2) R2 516185 UK, Europe & US 2009
Movement (LP, Album, RE, 180) London Records, Rhino Records (2) 2564-68879-7 Europe 2009
Movement (LP, Album, RE, 180) Rhino Records (2) R1 45089 US 2009
Movement (CD, Album + CD, Comp + , RM, RE, Col) London Records, London Records WPCR-13166/7, WPCR-13581~2 Japan 2010
Movement (LP, Album, RE) Factory, Factory FACT. 50, 70164 France  
Movement (LP, Album, RE) Base Record, Factory FACT 50, FACT. 50 Italy  
Movement (LP, Album, RP) Factory (US), Factory FACTUS 50, FACT. 50 US  
Movement (LP, Album, RP) Factory, Factory FACT. 50, FACT 50 UK  
Movement (LP, Album, W/Lbl) Factory FACT 50 UK  
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Reviews & Discussion

Rated 5/5
PantelisAvg Nov 08, 2011 (edited 3 months ago)

referencing Movement, LP, Album, FACT. 50, FACT 50

4,5/5
Review by Crijevo Mar 31, 2011

referencing Movement, LP, Album, FACT. 50, FACT 50

By all means this was dangerously constructed as Joy Division's "next studio album" that never was, at least not at the time of that group, due to the now well-known, sad circumstances considering Curtis's death.

The elements are all there, including that ultimate sadness and their lead singer's ghostly presence - Morris's amazing drum work and Hook's rather one-dimensional but impressive stabbing bass lines, with discrete, menacing synthesiser filtering - all now fully adopted in the mix... and of course, the omnipresent dictator Martin Hannett, handling the production.

The legend has it - both parties didn't enjoy much this studio experience between themselves - Hannett never really liked others apart from Curtis with whom he formed the strongest link. But with Curtis gone, the rest were for some reason obliged to record the follow up album with their in-house producer, and felt rather forced in his cold effects' carboard box.

Not that it reflected negatively on the very material. 'Movement' is a logical progression from 'Closer' - although the album cannot shake off the claustrophobic feel of its predecessor, struggling to sound only less rudimentary, it's a masterpiece in its own right - musically equally more consistent. Now penned under 'New Order' (which is a clever move to leave 'Joy Division' altogether to rest in peace), 'Movement' offers 8 songs with audible impression of a band struggling to escape the conformism of Hannett's dominating sound techniques.

Previous to this, their debut album, New Order already released a 12" featuring two "covers" - truly sad, merciless heart-and-soul gripping 'In A Lonely Place' and a bit more upbeat 'Ceremony', both of which were originally Joy Division standards, but sadly never materialised in their original form with Ian (at least not as studio versions; 'Ceremony' exists in a number of live recordings - usually credited as 'New One' (only partially to be documented on posthumous 'Still' compilation), while years later, 'In a Lonely Place' was discovered to exist in a very rough unfinished rehearsal take, included for its deserved documentary value on Joy Division's expanded 'Heart & Soul' box set). One can only imagine what beauty would have emerged from it, if Joy Division ever put out that particular song on vinyl properly.

Still, New Order transformed these songs' atmosphere to their brilliant heights, particularly making 'In a Lonely Place' their ideal new starting point - as a posthumous farewell note to their former selves as well as to their deceased bandmate. With artistic promise and will to make a step forward from the gloomy shades of grey, 'Movement' marks only little of what was about to become of New Order - and most of this 'very little' is reflecting in the wake of drum machines that inform some of the tracks on their debut album; 'Truth' and 'Doubts Even Here'. The vocals are still a cry from Barney's later lethargic paper thin singing, bearing a strong connection to Joy Division; the opening song 'Dreams Never End' in particular adds to the confusion element of this album - entirely sang by Hook (who proved to have much stronger vocals then Barney's), it can very easily be confused with Curtis.

The eponymous record sleeve ready-made by Peter Saville from Fortunato Depero's Futurist poster, in blue tone, reflects the melancholic (if not entirely dark) mood of the lot - while 'Dreams Never End' kicks off in a more optimistic tone, the rest of the album is far more sad and prevailing slow pace (despite the energetic, excellent songs 'Chosen Time' and 'Denial'). Hannett adds a little bit more of cold dub effects ('Truth', plus equally fascinating 'Senses' with its soft, droning bass tone) to blur the rawness of most songs which only added to the excellence of the album. Further highlights of this post-Division affair are undoubtedly 'ICB'; sad but groovy - a necessary tribute to their former lead-singer, and 'The Him', which forms a sequel, with interesting arrangement shifts as the song progresses - thrilling and chilling at the same time. Listening to 'The Him' is very close to a non-descript "black mass" situation that erupts into complete, deserved chaos.

In all, it's a well deserved anthological gem - impressive collection of 'goodbyes' and 'hellos' all at once. Something the group just had to do before resurfacing onto the music scene completely anew. In 1982, New Order were already free from their past to experiment more freely with their sound - while the excellent 'Everything's Gone Green' (coupled with 'Cries and Whispers' and the beautiful 'Procession') still bears the burden of the group's coping with Hannett, it's also the first set of songs they feel determined to preface the things to come; their first set of Peel Sessions plus some new cuts (early version of '5-8-6', plus 'Temptation' and somewhat clumsy 'Hurt'). Recommended listen all this, and not just for a New Order die-hard fan.
Review by RobertK. Jul 11, 2009

referencing Movement, CD, Album + CD, Comp + , RM, Col, R2 516185

Rhino lists Movement and four more remastered NO albums to be released on August 25th 2009. These -could- be the corrected editions announced by Rhino/Warner a while ago after numerous complaints of buyers of the 2008 initial releases. The following statement was posted on neworderonline in May 2009:
"UPDATE (May 2009): The band and label are working on re-sourcing and re-mastering all the CDs - new CDs will apparently be released (16th June?) 2009. Watch this space! It hasn't yet been confirmed whether the tracks have been properly mastered this time, or if there's been attempts to "repair" the faulty masters. I'd suggest do NOT pre-order these yet - wait until we have confirmation that they are definitely error-free."
Review by djrez1 Nov 22, 2008

referencing Movement, CD, Album + CD, Comp + , RM, Col, R2 516185

It has been widely acknowledged that the bonus disc (remixes, instrumentals and 12" versions) on this reissue was sourced from commercially available vinyl recordings instead of the original master tapes. Fans around the world noticed these faults right away and contacted the record company.

Peter Hook was quoted on his Myspace page as saying the situation was a mess and blamed the record company for not sending the band advance copies to do quality control.

On November 20th, 2008 Rhino Records issued a statement;

"Warner Bros. UK, Rhino and New Order regret that the initial pressings of the Collector Editions of 'Movement,' 'Power, Corruption & Lies,' 'Low-Life,' 'Brotherhood' and 'Technique' contain some minor audio problems on the bonus discs."

"We are now in the process of correcting the problems, but it should be noted that due to the age and condition of some of the original source tapes, the sound quality may vary. A further statement will be issued once the corrected product is available. At that time, the procedure for exchanging CD's will be announced. Thank you for your patience while we resolve this situation."
Review by danster1908 Nov 14, 2008

referencing Movement, CD, Album + CD, Comp + , RM, Col, 2564693694

Did they finally decide that the damage was done in 1987 when someone switched the songs titles 'Mesh' and 'Cries and Whispers'? The titles once again are swapped. They fixed this on Retro, why the same mistake? Other than that, this is a fine compilation. It would have been nice to hear demos and outtakes from these sessions. And the liner notes could have used some boosting. Maybe in the same way Pet Shop Boys did with their reissues in 2001, when they discussed each song in detail.
Review by pughboy100 Nov 04, 2008

referencing Movement, LP, Album, FACT. 50, FACT 50

This is probably the least played of New Order's albums and is something of a staging post between the old and the new sounds. All the elements that would bring them success are in place. The intensity remains from the Joy Division sound as well as the space within the music. The production, thanks to Martin Hannett and the band themselves sounds incredible.

At this point Sumner vocals are stuggling for their own sound, on Movement he sounds like he's trying to approximate Ian Curtis, its not till later singles that he really finds his own voice. All that's missing from Movement are the tunes that characterise later releases, only Dreams Never End hints at the bright poppiness to come.

This is very much a winter record, sounds good driving around in the car in the city at night, an interesting release in view of the direction the band took in later years.
Review by modulated Oct 10, 2007

referencing Movement, Cass, Album + Box, Fact 50c, FACT 50c

A couple of songs on 'Movement' stem from the initial songwriting session the band undertook in the summer of 1980. 'Dreams Never End' and 'Truth' were both played at the initial New Order concerts (still played as trio) in the US that September. At this point it was still undecided as to who should be vocalist. The interim solution was that all three members took turns at singing before finally deciding that Bernard Sumner should take the main vocalist's role with Peter Hook as back-up (though he takes lead on 'Dreams Never End' and 'Doubts Even Here'). The introduction in November 1980 of Gillian Gilbert, Stephen Morris's girlfriend, lightened the burden on Sumner who had to play guitar, keyboards and sing (something he found impossible to do simultaneously) and enabled the band to pursue a more electronic approach.
Review by modulated Oct 10, 2007

referencing Movement, Cass, Album, FACT. 50c

A couple of songs on 'Movement' stem from the initial songwriting session the band undertook in the summer of 1980. 'Dreams Never End' and 'Truth' were both played at the initial New Order concerts (still played as trio) in the US that September. At this point it was still undecided as to who should be vocalist. The interim solution was that all three members took turns at singing before finally deciding that Bernard Sumner should take the main vocalist's role with Peter Hook as back-up (though he takes lead on 'Dreams Never End' and 'Doubts Even Here'). The introduction in November 1980 of Gillian Gilbert, Stephen Morris's girlfriend, lightened the burden on Sumner who had to play guitar, keyboards and sing (something he found impossible to do simultaneously) and enabled the band to pursue a more electronic approach.
Rated 4/5
Review by jax Apr 24, 2003

referencing Movement, CD, Album, FACD. 50, 830 404-2

The ghost of Ian Curtis was still obviously on this metamorphosis of Joy Division-New Order. Namely in the vocals and in the dark ambience.

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