CON* ‎– Live '72

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Limited to 1000 copies in total; 100 copies on white vinyl and 900 copies on black vinyl (this). Gatefold jacket on French paper.

Tracks A1-C3 titled ENG.I+II on Conrad Schnitzler's old private list.

Tracks C4+D1 are 1984 mix-outs of the ENG.I+II material.

"I was invited to be in the show of an art exhibition Szene 72 (it means 1972).
This was hapen in stuttgart,London,Hamburg.
In this tree citys I have playd a permanent music for 4 weeks allways.
From the London time was some music on tape left.This means Engl.1+2" - Conrad Schnitzler 2011

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Cat# Artist Title (Format) Label Cat# Country Year
FUR 037 CON* Live '72(2xLP, Ltd, whi) Further Records FUR 037 US 2011 Sell This Version
FUR 037 Conrad Schnitzler Live '72(12xFile, ALAC) Further Records FUR 037 US 2011

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ultimathulerecords

ultimathulerecords

June 1, 2013
edited over 4 years ago
Hoping for some unreleased live Con from 1972 I was quite shocked when I got this to find out that I already knew it all! My findings concur with those detailed below (by others), most of it is culled from the same tapes as the "Blue Glow" CD, 2 pieces are elements from Grün, plus (if I'm not mistaken) some extracts from the source tapes used in "Conal". But is really Con live in 1972? It could be, as he did give concerts just playing and mixing pre-recorded tapes. Who knows? If it is, then (as rackhir states) "ENG.I+II" - I believe that this would be his ICA set?
rackhir

rackhir

December 29, 2012
Finally ...
it was a long journey to identify this.
I have to apologize officially !!
This is NO hoax or counterfeit, but a real work of Conrad Schnitzler ("ENG.I+II") to find in his own old private list.
BUT all other remarks and corrections in my review are CORRECT.
It is NOT a real LIVE-recording, everything except the mixes has been released before officially and the mixes are made in 1984 (but by Conrad himself)
A release under the original name would have kept a lot of misunderstanding away !!
rackhir

rackhir

November 25, 2012
a small addendum to my review.
I changed by mistake sides A and B.
So... simply replace all "A"s with "B"s and vice versa
rackhir

rackhir

November 18, 2012
Well, I highly recommend to be cautious with this record !
It is a lot (I would like to call it a hoax (or even a kind of counterfeit), in a way) but not LIVE in 72 !
(and if anybody thinks, it's a re-release of Qbico's CON'72 Pt.1+2 : NO, ABSOLUTELY NOT !)
Most tracks are definitly cutted from Container T2 (=Blue Glow) ... (thx, Kevpgrant - you put me on it!)

here the correct listing of the Live'72-tracks according to the Blue Glow/T2 - tracking :
A1 = 1
A2 = 6
A3 = 7
B1 + B2 -> see below
B3 = 1 (2nd time)
B4 = 2
C1 = 3
C2 = 4
C3 = ? (anybody a hint ? - I would bet it's taken from something already released)
C4 = 1 (again, 3rd time, but doubled with delay, or mixed with itself)
D1 = a kind of "concert"-mix of tracks (in order) A2-B4-C1-A3-C2-B1-B2-C3
(I MIGHT be wrong, but I do not really believe that this mix was ever made or authorized by Conrad)

B2 is an excerpt of "Bis die blaue Blume blüht" from Grün (OK, said to be recorded in 72/73),
B1 also, but played on 45 (the monaural ending of it is a bit strange)
Somebody has cutted these tracks and put them differently together to make a good, quick and easy dollar out of it (so it seems to me)
(Ok, the "mix" (D1) IS quiet nice, but the only (new) track with SOME value on the discs, and even this is not THAT much work at all)
If I'm wrong with this, it would be nice to get to know the (never released before) source(s) of this release.
Kevpgrant

Kevpgrant

September 23, 2011

An excellent release, handsomely packaged. However, it is not accurate to market this material as "previously unreleased". A number of the pieces were included on the Artgallery CD "Blue Glow" (1994), a compilation of some of Con's early works that is still fairly easy to find. (And even the bonus tracks on that CD had been released before, on the album "Electrocon".)

Still, I am proud to add Live 72 to my collection.