Doubting Thomas ‎– Father Don't Cry

Label:
Metropolis ‎– MET 065, Sub-Conscious Communications ‎– sub 009
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CD, EP
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Tracklist

1 Father Don't Cry (Extended) 8:36
2 T.H.C. 4:36
3 Turn A New Leaf 8:17
4 Excrement 5:59
5 Movie 13 3:17
6 That Problem Child 4:15
7 Majickal Horse 2:23
8 Come In Piece 4:00

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Notes

Recorded at Vancouver Studios 1990 except:
tracks 2, 7 Recorded at Subconscious Studios 94

Tracks 2,7 are subtitled with "(Unreleased)".
Track 8 is taken from The Infidel.
Tracks 2, 7 to 8 are bonus tracks that were not featured on the original CD single release.

Released in a Digipak

Barcode and Other Identifiers

  • Barcode (Text): 782388 006521
  • Barcode (Scanned): 782388006521
  • Matrix / Runout: MET065 ∙ :MASTERED: :BY NIMBUS:
  • Mastering SID Code (x2): IFPI L125

Other Versions (5 of 7) View All

Cat# Artist Title (Format) Label Cat# Country Year
WAX 9138 Doubting Thomas Father Don't Cry(12") Wax Trax! Records WAX 9138 US 1991 Sell This Version
O-112, sub 009 Doubting Thomas Father Don't Cry(CD, EP) Off Beat, Sub-Conscious Communications O-112, sub 009 Germany 1998 Sell This Version
WAX 9138 Doubting Thomas Father Don't Cry(12", TP) Wax Trax! Records WAX 9138 US 1991 Sell This Version
WAXCS 9138 Doubting Thomas Father Don't Cry(Cass, Single) Wax Trax! Records WAXCS 9138 US 1990 Sell This Version
WAXCDS 9138 Doubting Thomas Father Don't Cry(CD, Maxi, Promo) Wax Trax! Records WAXCDS 9138 US 1991 Sell This Version

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December 13, 2010
edited over 6 years ago
this record was initially released on wax trax! in 1991 with the tracklisting as denoted, 1-3-4-5-6. by 1997, wax trax! had been thoroughly dismantled by tvt and this particular single (along with the initial record) had been pushed out of print, which is actually entirely understandable. in an attempt to keep the single and record in print, cevin key transferred the rights to the act over to an ebm label by the name of metropolis that, at the time, was known for releasing very bad music that drew heavily upon a certain aspect of skinny puppy's overall sound. really, the metropolis catalogue was saturated with third-rate, watered down skinny puppy clones so a skinny puppy side project marketed in a way to appeal to slightly younger people was a smart marketing decision. since then, metropolis has actually signed a large number of the acts that were once signed to wax trax! and has, in the process, turned itself around rather substantially.

yet, the label lived up to it's at the time poor reputation by screwing the whole thing up rather absurdly. first, they changed the cover art without asking anybody about it. the initial cover looks like a steven r. gilmore creation, steven r. gilmore being the individual that is known for constructing most of skinny puppy's album art. the new cover appears to have a young bill clinton pasted in front of a picture of john rockefeller, suggesting the obscure, but persistent, conspiracy theory that clinton is actually rockefeller's son. it's not entirely clear what the purpose of this was, but rumour has it that it did not amuse cevin key. to make matters worse, they killed the flow of the initial disc by injecting new material into the sequencing in ways that were not sanctioned by the artist and then added a track from the record, the infidel, at the end in order to try and market it. this single is now once again out of print.

all of that makes this difficult for me to catalogue. i would generally prefer to catalogue the disc when it was originally released, then split the bonus material off; however, the bonus material was not released elsewhere so there's nowhere to split it off to. what i've done is reorganize the track list to the initial sequence, then add the bonus material at the end and scratch off the track from the infidel altogether.

while the project was initially designed to house skinny puppy overflow, particularly the less aggressive pieces, it eventually evolved to incorporate a soundtrack concept that key would later bring out in his scaremeister alter-ego. these tracks are designed as short soundtracks for imaginary films and feature gratuitous use of film samples in order to construct weak plot lines around the music. the idea is interesting, but it's left undeveloped; the average track length is around 6 minutes, which is just not long enough to develop the idea coherently. now, it should be noted that this is the disc of outtakes and not the released record. the actual record is one of a handful of puppy-related projects released between 1980 and 2000 that i actually haven't heard (yet) so i'm not going to declare the project a failure quite yet, although i will point out that future "doubting thomas" releases would not be rooted within this conceptual framework. at this level of exposure, i'm actually rather intrigued and would like to hear somebody expand upon the idea further.

musically, as mentioned, this sounds like a less aggressive version of skinny puppy. the tracks are based around heavily manipulated drum parts that were initially bashed out on an electronic drum kit, dissonant sequencers and dark, thick pads. what's missing are the distorted vocals, the full-on attack and the noisy sonic design decisions. intentional or not, the result is something that borders on "porn music", which is indeed what more than one lady friend has accused me of listening to when they overhear this. of course, the marijuana references should be obvious from the track titles and this should be expected with key releases.

cevin key has a sprawling discography that spans decades, and within that context it's difficult to explicitly recommend this, although it's out of print and impossible to find anyways. this disc is not notably weak, but it's not notably strong either, meaning that if you like the general style that key/goettel were working within during the time period then you should enjoy this but will be unlikely to pick it out as the best thing they did during the time period. collectors should not overpay for it, unless they have an original wax trax! pressing in reach.
OUTERNATIONAL8

OUTERNATIONAL8

November 5, 2006
edited over 11 years ago

As Skinny Puppy side-projects go, the Doubting Thomas debut is nothing short of a classic in its own right. With some of the industrial leanings of their SP recordings, though definitely less raucous, this, their first non-canine release, has more than enough bite to keep you hooked.
The opening title track, awash with snatches of dialogue from vintage horror movies (& Chaz Sheen's infamous one-liner lifted from Platoon) sits up and begs to be listened to... again and again... As indeed does the rest of the content on offer here.
But for the untimely demise of cEvin Key's partner in crime on this project, Dwayne R. Goettel, there's NO DOUBT that
they would've continued to spellbind with further releases.