FBD Project ‎– Breakin Up / The Core

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microlin100

microlin100

June 28, 2019
edited 22 days ago
referencing Breakin Up / The Core, 12", BT 003

Mine has the pink label and is well old . Have Had it for over 20 years . I Picked it up from a Sunday flee market and it wasn't new . It was a used record . If it a spin off or not its it's still over 20 years old mine has BT 003 AA on it . Wouldn't surprise me if some kid working in a pressing company . Did some overtime making a few extra quid . Back then It was a free for all .
djrobovw1

djrobovw1

October 14, 2016
referencing Breakin Up / The Core, 12", Unofficial, W/Lbl, BT 003

Nothing short of Fucking Large, but much prefer the breaking up track.
tangee

tangee

January 10, 2016
edited over 3 years ago
referencing Breakin Up / The Core, 12", Unofficial, W/Lbl, BT 003
In response to my comment on November 16th 2015, Neil Trix commented below, (Thanks for commenting Neil)

Nobody is suggesting anyone is lying, but i am simply making it very clear that all of the pressings i officially paid for had NO labels on them. Any copies that have a label were never pressed, or paid for by myself apart from the 10x TP's delivered for approval. Back in the early 90's there was no internet (like we have today) and communication with record stores was minimal, this was left to the distributors, knowing a potential problem was happening was hard to confirm. You seem to be approaching this from the completely wrong angle.... Maybe the distributor pressed some without my knowledge, maybe the record plant did, maybe the mastering house who had the metalwork did... who knows.. who cares...i dont... If you were pressing / selling vinyl back then you would be aware of the goings on.
Thanks.

So Neil is saying the test presses of which there are 10 have labels on them, so the Discography notes on this page http://www.discogs.com/FBD-Project-Breakin-Up-The-Core/release/203855 are wrong as they state the test presses have no labels, different to what Neil has said.
Learn something new everyday.
So infact we have ended up with alot of new information and indeed questions about the test presses because if Neil never took the labels off these, and he hasn't said he did, then what is a test press and what isn't among the unofficial bootlegs? Potentially you could also take the label off your unofficial copy and claim it was an Official copy!! So it would seem there is more to this, it would have been nice if Neil confirmed how many Official presses were pressed too but hey ho, not to worry. like i say, learn something new everyday.
tangee

tangee

January 10, 2016
edited over 3 years ago
referencing Breakin Up / The Core, 12", BT 003

In response to my comment on November 16th 2015, Neil Trix commented below, Neil's response can also be seen in the replies to my comment on November 16th 2015 (Thanks for commenting Neil)

Nobody is suggesting anyone is lying, but i am simply making it very clear that all of the pressings i officially paid for had NO labels on them. Any copies that have a label were never pressed, or paid for by myself apart from the 10x TP's delivered for approval. Back in the early 90's there was no internet (like we have today) and communication with record stores was minimal, this was left to the distributors, knowing a potential problem was happening was hard to confirm. You seem to be approaching this from the completely wrong angle.... Maybe the distributor pressed some without my knowledge, maybe the record plant did, maybe the mastering house who had the metalwork did... who knows.. who cares...i dont... If you were pressing / selling vinyl back then you would be aware of the goings on.
Thanks.

So Neil is saying the test presses of which there are 10 have labels on them, so the above Discography notes on this page are wrong as they state the test presses have no labels, different to what Neil has said.
Learn something new everyday.
So infact we have ended up with alot of new information and indeed questions about the test presses because if Neil never took the labels off these, and he hasn't said he did, then what is a test press and what isn't among the unofficial bootlegs? Potentially you could also take the label off your unofficial copy and claim it was an Official copy!! So it would seem there is more to this, it would have been nice if Neil confirmed how many Official presses were pressed too but hey ho, not to worry. like i say, learn something new everyday.
leggyemulous

leggyemulous

January 6, 2016
referencing Breakin Up / The Core, 12", Unofficial, W/Lbl, BT 003
It's all weird isn't it. My copy has white (not pinkish) labels. I definitely bought it when it came out (if it came out!). I vividly recall playing it at a free party in a derelict bungalow in the New Forest in the same set that I played Valley of the Shadows and Tango and Fallout, which were both newish at the time.

Bit of a shame if Neil never got anything for the pressing and sale of these, but I suppose that was far from a rare thing either!
tangee

tangee

November 16, 2015
edited over 3 years ago
referencing Breakin Up / The Core, 12", BT 003

Perhaps Neil Trix could enlighten us some more as you could purchase the copies with the Pink Label one side and the White Label on the other side back in 1993..If you look at some of the replies to the comments listed here Breakin Up / The Core ‎(12", W/Lbl, Unofficial) a few people confirm that too..If these where unofficialy pressed back in 93 then Neil Trix must have an idea where they came from?..My copy is exactly as i have described here and the etchings in the run out groove are the same as woodyglobaluk announces, they are not freshly etched either and age can be seen also in the labels. It would be good Neil if you could clarify if you think these copies were pressed later than 1993 because people were purchasing these particular presses from record shops at that time!! I certainly do not think that these presses are a recent addition, furthermore VINYL2GO-JUNGLE on this site is selling a copy and claiming this is from DJ Phantasy's collection..There is no reason to believe that VINYL2GO-JUNGLE is lying, so with that said DJ Phantasy was a Bootleg vinyl buyer back in 1993, is that what we are saying?!! There should be more clarification as to the origins of these so called Bootlegs as it seems a rather grey area, i remember Bootleg remixes from back in the day which were happening real time such as the Edge Of Darkness/ Jonny L Come Together and Hurt You So Bootleg Mixes but real time Bootlegs of a tune just released?? Why was there no recall of these either Neil if you were aware of them??
WEIRD!!!!!
Incidentally how many copies of the black no label (Official) vinyl's were pressed?
More questions than answers!!!
tangee

tangee

November 16, 2015
edited over 3 years ago
referencing Breakin Up / The Core, 12", Unofficial, W/Lbl, BT 003
Perhaps Neil Trix could enlighten us some more as you could purchase these copies with the Pink Label one side and the White Label on the other side back in 1993..If you look at some of the replies to the comments listed here a few people confirm that too..If these where unofficialy pressed back in 1993 then Neil Trix must have an idea where they came from?..My copy is exactly as i have described here and the etchings in the run out groove are the same as woodyglobaluk announces, they are not freshly etched either and age can be seen also in the labels. It would be good Neil if you could clarify if you think these copies were pressed later than 1993 because people were purchasing these particular presses from record shops at that time!! I certainly do not think that these presses are a recent addition, furthermore VINYL2GO-JUNGLE on this site is selling a copy and claiming this is from DJ Phantasy's collection..There is no reason to believe that VINYL2GO-JUNGLE is lying, so with that said DJ Phantasy was a Bootleg vinyl buyer back in 1993, is that what we are saying?!! There should be more clarification as to the origins of these so called Bootlegs as it seems a rather grey area, i remember Bootleg remixes from back in the day which were happening real time such as the Edge Of Darkness/ Jonny L Come Together and Hurt You So Bootleg Mixes but real time Bootlegs of a tune just released?? Why was there no recall of these either Neil if you were aware of them??
WEIRD!!!!!
Incidentally how many copies of the black no label (Official) vinyl's were pressed?
More questions than answers!!!
chunkstar

chunkstar

March 20, 2014
edited over 5 years ago
referencing Breakin Up / The Core, 12", Unofficial, W/Lbl, BT 003
My copy of this has the pink label both sides too. I don't know when these bootlegs were supposed to have been pressed but my copy of this was purchased back in late 93, start of 94 from the old ruby red records shop in wolverhampton.
Brian_Badonde

Brian_Badonde

January 11, 2014
referencing Breakin Up / The Core, 12", Unofficial, W/Lbl, BT 003
White label version confirmed as a bootleg on Dug's interview with Neil Trix - Friday 10th Jan 2014