Genesis ‎– Archive #2 1976-1992

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Atlantic ‎– 83410-2
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3 × CD, Compilation
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1-1 On The Shoreline 4:49
1-2 Hearts On Fire 5:14
1-3 You Might Recall
Engineer – Geoff Callingham, Hugh Padgham
5:32
1-4 Paperlate
Brass [Section] – The Phenix HornsEngineer – Geoff Callingham, Hugh Padgham
3:21
1-5 Evidence Of Autumn 4:58
1-6 Do The Neurotic 7:08
1-7 I'd Rather Be You 3:58
1-8 Naminanu
Engineer – Hugh Padgham
3:54
1-9 Inside And Out 6:43
1-10 Feeding The Fire 5:51
1-11 I Can't Dance (12")
Remix – H. Gray*, T. Gray*
7:02
1-12 Submarine
Engineer – Hugh Padgham
5:13
2-1 Illegal Alien (Live) 5:31
2-2 Dreaming While You Sleep (Live)
Engineer [Live Sound] – Robert (Cubby) Colby*
7:48
2-3 It's Gonna Get Better (Live) 7:32
2-4 Deep In The Motherlode (Live) 5:54
2-5 Ripples (Live) 9:53
2-6 The Brazilian (Live) 5:17
2-7 Your Own Special Way (Live)
Arranged By [String Arrangement] – Peter RobinsonStrings [String Section] – Robert Ingram (2)
6:51
2-8 Burning Rope (Live) 7:28
2-9 Entangled (Live)
Glockenspiel, Maracas – Bill Bruford
6:57
2-10 Duke's Travels (Live) 9:31
3-1 Invisible Touch (12")
Remix – John Potoker
5:58
3-2 Land Of Confusion (12")
Remix – John Potoker
6:59
3-3 Tonight, Tonight, Tonight (12")
Remix – John Potoker
11:46
3-4 No Reply At All (Live) 4:56
3-5 Man On The Corner (Live) 4:04
3-6 The Lady Lies (Live) 6:08
3-7 Open Door 4:08
3-8 The Day The Light Went Out 3:14
3-9 Vancouver 3:03
3-10 Pigeons 3:13
3-11 It's Yourself 5:25
3-12 Mama (Work In Progress) 10:43

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This compilation ℗ © 2000 Gelring Limited under exclusive license to Atlantic Recording Corporation for the United States and WEA International Inc. for Canada. Printed in U.S.A.

All CDs have the same catalog number.

Tracks 1-1, 1-2: © 1991 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. From 'We Can't Dance' sessions 1991.
Tracks 1-3, 1-4: © 1982 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. From 'Abacab' sessions 1981.
Track 1-5: © 1980 Anthony Banks Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. From 'Duke' sessions 1980.
Tracks 1-6, 1-10: © 1986 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. From 'Invisible Touch' sessions 1986.
Track 1-7: © 1987 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. From 'Invisible Touch' sessions 1986.
Tracks 1-8, 1-12: © 1981 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. From 'Abacab' sessions 1981.
Tracks 1-9, 3-10: © 1977 Gelring Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. From 'Wind & Wuthering' sessions 1976.
Track 1-11: © 1991 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd.
Tracks 2-1, 2-3: © 1983 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. Recorded at the LA Forum 14 Jan 84.
Track 2-2: © 1991 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. Recorded at Earls Court Nov 92.
Track 2-4: © 1978 Gelring Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. Recorded at Drury Lane 5 May 1980.
Track 2-5: © 1976 Anthony Banks Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. Recorded at the Lyceum London 6 May 1980.
Track 2-6: © 1986 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. Recorded at Wembley Stadium 4 July 87.
Track 2-7: © 1977 Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. Recorded at The Sydney Entertainment Centre Dec 86.
Track 2-8: © 1978 Gelring Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. Recorded at the Houston Hofheinz Pavilion 22 Oct 1978.
Track 2-9: © 1976 Anthony Banks Ltd / Stephen Hackett Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. Recorded at Bingley Hall, Staffordshire 10 July 1976.
Track 2-10: © 1980 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. Recorded at the Lyceum, London 7 May 1980.
Tracks 3-1 to 3-3: © 1986 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd.
Track 3-4: © 1981 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. Recorded at the Savoy NYC 28 Nov 81.
Track 3-5: © 1981 Philip Collins Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. Recorded at the Savoy NYC 28 Nov 81.
Track 3-6: © 1978 Gelring Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. Recorded at the Savoy NYC 28 Nov 81.
Track 3-7: © 1980 Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. From 'Duke' sessions 1980.
Tracks 3-8, 3-9: © 1978 Gelring Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. From 'And There Were Three ...' sessions 1978.
Track 3-11: © 1978 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Stephen Hackett Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd. From 'A Trick Of The Tail' sessions 1976.
Track 3-12: © 1983 Anthony Banks Ltd / Philip Collins Ltd / Michael Rutherford Ltd / Hit&Run Music Publishing Ltd.

Tracks 1-1, 1-9, 2-2, 2-4 to 2-9, 3-6 to 3-11: All rights in the U.S. and Canada controlled and administered by EMI Blackwood Music, (BMI)
Tracks 1-2 to 1-8, 1-10 to 2-1, 2-3, 2-10 to 3-5, 3-12: All rights in the U.S. and Canada controlled and administered by EMI April Music, (ASCAP)

Barcode and Other Identifiers

  • Barcode (Scanned): 075678341021
  • Barcode (Text): 0 -7567-83410-2 1
  • Matrix / Runout (CD1 - Variant 1): wea mfg. OLYPHANT Y14220 3 83410-2.1 01 M1S2
  • Matrix / Runout (CD1 - Variant 2): wea mfg. OLYPHANT Y14220 3 83410-2.1 01 M1S4
  • Mastering SID Code (CD1 - Variants 1 & 2): ifpi L903
  • Mould SID Code (CD1 - Variant 2): IFPI 2U2Q
  • Matrix / Runout (CD2 - Variant 1): wea mfg. OLYPHANT X14007 3 83410-2.2 01 M1S2
  • Matrix / Runout (CD2 - Variant 2): wea mfg. OLYPHANT X14007 3 83410-2.2 01 M1S3
  • Mastering SID Code (CD2 - Variants 1 & 2): ifpi L902
  • Mould SID Code (CD2 - Variant 2): IFPI 2U2Q
  • Matrix / Runout (CD3 - Variant 1): wea mfg. OLYPHANT X14020 3 83410-2.3 01 M1S2
  • Matrix / Runout (CD3 - Variant 2): wea mfg. OLYPHANT X14020 3 83410-2.3 01 M1S4
  • Mastering SID Code (CD3 - Variant 2): ifpi L902
  • Mould SID Code (CD3 - Variant 2): IFPI 2U2Q

Other Versions (4 of 4) View All

Cat# Artist Title (Format) Label Cat# Country Year
CDBOX7, 7243 8 50343 2 9 Genesis Archive #2 1976-1992(3xCD, Comp) Virgin, Virgin CDBOX7, 7243 8 50343 2 9 Europe 2000 Sell This Version
none Genesis Archive #2 1976-1992(3xCDr, Comp, Ltd, Unofficial) 2000 FruitGum Corp. none Australia 2005 Sell This Version
CDBOX7, 7243 8 50343 2 9 Genesis Archive #2 1976-1992(3xCD, Comp, EMI) Virgin, Virgin CDBOX7, 7243 8 50343 2 9 UK & Europe 2000 Sell This Version
83410-2 Genesis Archive #2 1976-1992(3xCD, Comp, RP) Atlantic 83410-2 USA & Canada Unknown Sell This Version

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rltjr33

rltjr33

February 9, 2016

Retrospective box sets are such troublesome things. There typically isn't a ton of complaint about things being included that maybe shouldn't have; more often, the complaints are about what was left off.

I know the first box set's potential omission of "Twilight Alehouse" sparked a fair amount of handwringing (or at least complaining) among the band's fans. I personally wished a live Gabriel-era version of "The Cinema Show" had been included as well ("Firth of Fifth" and "I Know What I Like" were there - why not that classic?). There were probably even a few who wanted a live rendering of "More Fool Me". Anytime a band leaves something off that was previously released or is known to be widely available, that will tend to cause some angst.

This set has some particularly curious omissions, though. Both "Me And Virgil" (the 3x3 EP in Britain, and the original version of Three Sides Live in America) and "Match of the Day" (the Spot the Pigeon EP) were released and commonly known about. The band, however, decided that they did not like these songs and left them off. I find this puzzling and disconcerting. If they thought highly enough of the songs to release them initially, why hold them back now? Isn't it more up to the fans of the band to decide what they do and don't want to hear under these circumstances? I can understand that for an album of new material - not for an "archive" box set. It just doesn't seem right, particularly in light of the 12" single releases which Tony Banks claims to not care for all that much (and which the band didn't have a ton of say in, from what I can tell). I'm not going to claim to love "Me and Virgil" (I usually skip it), but it just seems it should be there.

There are also some live songs which I know for a certainty there are good copies of out there which were left off - "Eleventh Earl of Mar", "All In a Mouse's Night", a truer-to-the-original "Your Own Special Way" (not the tepid version included here), "Say It's Alright Joe", "Keep It Dark"...I'm sure there are others too. I have high-quality live renderings of these songs in my own collection (FBI/Interpol, please note that I did not pay a penny for them), so I know they exist, and I would have been happy to shell out more money to have them included in this box set. I don't know about songs like "Down and Out", "Ballad of Big" and "Like It or Not" as to whether there are good live copies out there, but Phil Collins supposedly recorded every show they ever did. I would think at least some of the tapes would still be in decent shape. Heck, even "Me and Virgil" was performed live (as were "Paperlate" and "No Reply At All" - with horns!) - toss those in too. Make it complete instead of fans asking "Why not?" over some omission. We can decide for ourselves if we like it. A live version of "Illegal Alien" was included, for crying out loud - I think most fans would rather hear "Mar" or "Joe" but wouldn't have minded "Alien's" presence if they'd been included.

I am grateful for the B-sides ("It's Yourself", "Naminanu", "Vancouver" and "Do the Neurotic" are real faves of mine), and while some of them are not fantastic to my ears - again, at least I was offered the choice. I appreciate that. And the live songs are very nice as well. "Man on the Corner", "Burning Rope", "Deep in the Motherlode", "Ripples...", "It's Gonna Get Better", "Duke's Travels/End"...all great stuff, very well done. The sequencing is a bit odd at times, though. Chronological might have made a bit more sense. As for the 12" singles - couldn't care less. Though, again, if other stuff was included, it maybe wouldn't feel as annoying.

Honestly - if there are good-quality live recordings laying around, I feel like the band should go the route of Gentle Giant and just start releasing them. They don't need extensive liner notes or artwork. Though I have great-sounding stuff from the Wind and Wuthering tour on up, I would still gladly shell out $20 to get a more official release. I appreciate what the band has done and enjoy their music, so why not? I'm pretty sure many others would feel the same way. That way, archive stuff like this wouldn't seem as essential, and all the material they've done live could be released in some form somewhere - again, letting the fans decide what they like (or not).

For the B-sides and the included live material, I can't give less than three stars. But I can't give more than that given what was left off either. So, what could've been quite great ends up average. A real pity.