John Coltrane ‎– Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album

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B0028228-02 John Coltrane Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album(2xCD, Album, Dlx) Impulse!, Verve Records, UMe B0028228-02 US 2018 Sell This Version
B002831601 A/B John Coltrane Both Directions At Once(LP, Album, TP, W/Lbl) Impulse!, Verve Records, UMe B002831601 A/B US 2018 Sell This Version
none John Coltrane Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album(14xFile, AIFF, Album, Mono, Dlx, 24-) Impulse! none 2018
none John Coltrane Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album(14xFile, FLAC, Album, Mono, Dlx, 16-) Impulse! none 2018
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kamenov

kamenov

November 8, 2018
referencing Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album, LP, Album, 00602567493006

Essential piece of wax, lovely pressing too. You need it.
helloimnikitka

helloimnikitka

October 13, 2018
referencing Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album, 2xLP, Album, Mono, Dlx, B0028317-01

Is there anyone else with two "Side B" labels on the second LP of this album?
Dogan1960

Dogan1960

August 20, 2018
referencing Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album, LP, Album, B0028316-01
The stereo tapes,as I mentioned, were not available for this release. Only 'Vilia' has been found of the original stereo recordings, and that has been in circulation for many years. The mono reference tapes were in the possession of Coltrane's first wife's family, Naima, as opposed to second wife Alice Coltrane, where the majority of his posthumous releases were usually sourced. These tapes as well as many other unreleased recordings were actually put up for auction in 2005 but withdrawn by Naima's family after an injunction by Verve who complained that some of the recordings duplicated material that was released already by the label and which they had rights to.The family did consult a researcher named Barry Kernfeld who analyzed and catalogued the tapes and it was his work that helped authenticate their existence and determine their historical value. (See 'The John Coltrane Reference' for further information about these tapes.) Now that the label is working with Naima's family, it is probable that more of these recordings will see the light of day.
Dogan1960

Dogan1960

August 15, 2018
referencing Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album, LP, Album, B0028316-01
To answer a few of the reviewer's questions- yes,it is a mono recording sourced from a reference tape from Coltrane's own collection.It was common for him to take home mono reference tapes for him to evaluate how the sessions went. The original stereo recordings are presumably lost for good, though the stereo version of 'Vilia' (Take 5) has surfaced- not sure why this wasn't included in this package. (This would be track 1 on the second LP.) As far as sound quality, no, it's not up his usual standards nor was it ever likely intended to be released either in mono only or even in the way this session appears to be 'mixed' - rather, Coltrane ran his own tape recorder while Van Gelder was engineering the sessions and what you get is what you get, limitations and all. As to why these recordings never made the cut when they were first made, who knows? They are still exciting to listen to as a bridge between 'Coltrane' and 'Crescent'.
keefy6

keefy6

July 18, 2018
referencing Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album, LP, Album, B0028316-01

After listen somewhat disappointing but I do take into account the mastering is not of that time, i.e. Dr. Rudy Van Gelder. I like the music but I do not like the the mixing and to be fair, I don't know the condition of the original music and its recording quality.

- There is a (to my ears) muddy mid-bass boom to sound made from acoustic bass throughout. Many notes have the same tone?
- There isn't (to my ears) a sound stage at all as every single instrument is dead center or within a very small box. Interesting; if using the pictures as reference, there are at least four (4) microphones.
- On a few tracks (to my ears) Elvin Jones' drums are almost a whisper...Elvin Jones.

Possibly worth keeping for historical value. In fairness I listen to mostly original recordings and not represses, so differences are probably (to my ears) more pronounced than say someone who primarily listens opposite.
nevraumont

nevraumont

July 4, 2018
referencing Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album, 2xLP, Album, Mono, Dlx, B0028317-01

Some observations about Both Directions at Once / The Lost Album.

The packaging is an example of a graphic artist focusing on creative design without sufficient attention to function. This is particularly crucial in packaging design.

The cutouts are susceptible to tearing. Check out the cutout on Ornette Coleman’s ”Free Jazz.”

The matte finish will pick up grime and smudging more readily than the glossy finish applied to most album covers.

Over time, the four-square-foot separate liner notes will have a tendency to fray or end up lost. When trying to read the notes, this poster-size sheet is cumbersome. Another example of hip design over mundane function.

The track list on the back cover set as a block is typographically interesting, but certainly not as easy to read at a track list set in columnar form,

Then there is the question of the value of this music.

Recorded on 6 March 1963, it was sandwiched between “Coltrane” recorded in April and June 1962 and “A Love Supreme” recorded on 9 December 1964. These two albums are among the best Coltrane assembled and released in his life time. Some aficionados consider “A Love Supreme” his all-time greatest recording achievement.

There are fourteen tracks on the current vinyl release: seven compositions plus seven alternate takes. I wouldn’t be surprised if in the future a CD will be released with the entire recording session.

How much new musical ground is covered in this release? Is this music deserving of Ashley Kahn’s approximately 4,500 word magazine-article length appreciation? And no disrespect of Ashley, who is the author of “A Love Supreme: The Story of John Coltrane’s Signature Album,” and who, in fact, teaches a semester-long course on “A Love Supreme” at NYU.

And why didn’t Coltrane assemble a new album from this session or include any of the tracks on his seven subsequent albums released before his untimely death.

I’ll leave that judgment to the ears of all who listen to this music. Anything Coltrane recorded is worthy of our attention.

I wonder, however, whether this album isn’t an example of clever, over-hyped marketing. Marketing into which I bought.

Maybe Ravi Coltrane put it best, quoted by Ashley:

“To my ears, it was a kicking-the-tires kind of session.”
dorium_Tres

dorium_Tres

July 4, 2018
referencing Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album, LP, Album, B0028316-01

This is a slick record and I'm really happy it was found.
rykodrix

rykodrix

July 4, 2018
referencing Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album, 2xLP, Album, Mono, Dlx, B0028317-01

It sounds terrific to me, in terms of hi-fidelity. It's another wonderful document of the power of 'Trane. It echoes some of the tradition of the past (Soul Train/Blue Train and certainly Giant Steps), and it absolutely fits right in with some of the other work he was doing more closely before and after this date (My Favorite Things/Crescent and even A Love Supreme a tad). The quartet is absolutely perfect for 'Trane, imho: McCoy Tyner proved to be the perfect foil to Coltrane's soloing. Coltrane may be the genius and "fearless leader," but Tyner is amazing every step of the way. A side note: there are a few cuts where Tyner sits out, which prove equally interesting--perhaps even more so to jazz afficianados who thirst for glimpses of 'Trane stretching out in different ways. Coltrane was certainly a jazz intellectual: continually exploring the nuances of a song, playing it different at every turn, aware of the traditions of the past yet insatiably yearning to turn the whole room upside-down with his 'free"-ness, which was barely containable at this point (perhaps contained only by RVG's hand in pushing the structure of a "record," as opposed to just letting the tape capture whatever came during a live date). And it's impossible to listen to Coltrane and not be intellectual stimulated and challenged. Yet, the first thing that hits you is a visceral, emotional response. Hearing the accomplished, confident 'Trane here is to step into a building where, far off in the distance, something incredibly magnetic instantly pulls at you in a way you simply cannot understand with your mind, only with your heart. You wind your way through the halls, up the stairs, down the stairs, and, finally, into the space 'Trane and Co. occupy. You wonder if you'll leave this place with everything you brought into it: certainly, parts of you are melting and puddling at your feet. And perhaps that's exactly the point. You will not leave as you came; you will leave with something new, different, better, inside you. You leave with 'Trane.
DonnieDiamonds

DonnieDiamonds

July 2, 2018
referencing Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album, LP, Album, B0028316-01
Here's my question: This recording is mono. So, was this cut as a mono record? It surely sounds great through my mono cartridge.
dopaminedj

dopaminedj

July 1, 2018
referencing Both Directions At Once: The Lost Album, 2xLP, Album, Mono, Dlx, B0028317-01
Looks like they really crammed a lot of music onto each side. Wondering if the sound quality takes a hit because of it.