New Order ‎– Sub-Culture

Factory ‎– fac 133
Vinyl, 12", 45 RPM, Single, Stereo


A Sub-Culture 7:26
B Dub-Vulture 7:57

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Only available in a generic slick black die-cut sleeve - Apparently, Peter Saville hated the track and refused to design a full cover for it.

- published by bemusic/warner bros music.
- a factory record

Durations do not appear on release.

Barcode and Other Identifiers

  • Matrix / Runout (Runout side A, variation 1): FAC 133 A¹ MPO TOWNHOUSE
  • Matrix / Runout (Runout side B, variation 1): FAC 133 B¹ MPO TOWNHOUSE
  • Matrix / Runout (Runout side A, variation 2): FAC 133 A¹x MPO TOWNHOUSE
  • Matrix / Runout (Runout side B, variation 2): FAC 133 B¹x MPO TOWNHOUSE
  • Matrix / Runout (Runout side A, variation 3): FAC 133 A¹ MPO TOWNHOUSE
  • Matrix / Runout (Runout side B, variation 3): FAC 133 B¹ˣ MPO TOWNHOUSE

Other Versions (5 of 21) View All

Cat# Artist Title (Format) Label Cat# Country Year
FAC 133 New Order Sub-Culture(12") Base Record, Factory FAC 133 Italy 1985 Sell This Version
FAC 133-7, Fac 133 New Order Sub-Culture(7", Single, TP) Factory, Factory FAC 133-7, Fac 133 UK 1985 Sell This Version
YW-7433-AX, fac 133 New Order Sub-Culture(12", Promo) Factory, Factory, Columbia YW-7433-AX, fac 133 Japan 1985 Sell This Version
FAC 133 New Order Sub-Culture(12", TP) Factory FAC 133 UK 1985 Sell This Version
31 164 New Order Sub-Culture(12") Factory, Nuevos Medios 31 164 Spain 1985 Sell This Version


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February 24, 2018
I wonder what kind of professional was this Peter character.
Was it up for designers to judge those matters. Plain silly.
The single version, the 12" version and the respective dubs are absolutely great,
and far better than the sloppy Album version in Low-Life.


June 24, 2017

Nice type on label but not much else of a cover due to Saville's dislike for the remix. Album track far superior. The Pet Shop Boys owe a lot in sound and style to this one!


May 7, 2015

The remix here drives me crazy. I can not listen to it without the way Robie treated the synth completely throwing the rhythm of the track off for me, the way it emphasizes the offbeat so hugely that it sounds like it was mixed and mastered incorrectly. I challenge you to listen to it carefully and check out what he's adding on the offbeat through most of the song, it's...just amazingly off-balance, a real trainwreck. Honestly, if the level of that one track had been properly adjusted, it'd be a fine enough remix, but... yeah. Bad.


April 5, 2012
I have two copies of FAC133 that both were bought in Sweden. They are almost identical to this release except that they have MPO scratched out. I suspect that these are pressed in Sweden using stampers made from the UK master. Many other Swedish New Order releases were pressed this way but they are easier to distinguish.


November 27, 2002

there was no sleeve made for this 12" because peter saville hated it, and refused to design anything.