In late 2001, his interest in electronic music was resparked when he accidentally discovered that converting a sequenced song from one format to another in a program he was using sometimes totally mutated the song, adding a whole new spin to his compositions. This inspired him to plunge into minimalism, as well as blips and bleeps and things much more experimental than anything else he had touched before. While he still uses the name "Toast" at karaoke, he realized that this would not fit the music he was now producing. Taking a character name from a They Might Be Giants song, he became Ugliness Man.
Ugliness Man currently resides in Calgary Alberta, Canada.