He began to focus instrumentally on playing dousn' gouni (Malian hunter's harp), and African thumb pianos and berimbau. He recorded and performed with Don Cherry, Tony Vacca and Tim Moran (City Spirits LP) in 1985. In the mid 1980s he engineered and produced hip hop tracks by The Busy Boys (Myron More and Kevin Bell, aka Kutmaster B-stro) including their well-known track, "Funky Fresh Christmas" released on Bee-Pee Records. He also engineered and produced tracks by blues artist George Gritzback.
In the 2000s he as been working on solo and collaborative projects under the name Liquid Terrain.