The Outside Agency

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The Outside Agency is a hardcore act comprised of DJ Hidden and Eye-D that plays and produces hardcore in a multi-tempo blend of dark and industrial elements, incorporating virtually anything from old acid and techno to breakcore.

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theoutsideagency.com, Bandcamp, Facebook, Wikipedia, YouTube, SoundCloud, mixcloud.com, Twitter, residentadvisor.net

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X-Factor

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Frank Nitzinsky, Noël Wessels

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Outside Agency, T.O.A., TOA, The Outside Agnecy

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	GENCD01		The Outside Agency	Scenocide 101 ‎(2xCD, Album)	Genosha Recordings	GENCD01	Netherlands	2005	Sell This Version
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	GENCD02		The Outside Agency	Scenocide 202 ‎(2xCD, Album)	Genosha Recordings	GENCD02	Netherlands	2010	Sell This Version
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	adn162d		The Outside Agency	The Dogs Are Listening (Album)	Ad Noiseam	adn162d	Germany	2012	Sell This Version
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	GENCD03		The Outside Agency	Scenocide 404 ‎(2xCD, Album)	Genosha Recordings	GENCD03	Netherlands	2017	Sell This Version
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	MOK 65, DB 1740.6		The Outside Agency	Break It Down (EP)	Mokum Records, Mokum Records	MOK 65, DB 1740.6	Netherlands	1996	Sell This Version
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	MOK 72, DB 1727 6		The Outside Agency	The Case Of The Black Bubbles	Mokum Records, Mokum Records	MOK 72, DB 1727 6	Netherlands	1997	Sell This Version
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	DB 1715-6		The Outside Agency	We Are As Fresh As Ice Is Cold	Mokum Records, Mokum Records	DB 1715-6	Netherlands	1997	Sell This Version
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	BMR003		The Outside Agency	In Theory Everything Is Straight	Black Monolith Records	BMR003	US	2001	Sell This Version
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	OTAKU 002		The Outside Agency	The Coconut Revolution (EP)	Otaku Records	OTAKU 002	France	2003	Sell This Version
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	GEN002		Theeq / Fracture 4 / The Outside Agency	Theeq / Fracture 4 / The Outside Agency - Goes Noord Vs The Rest Of The World	Genosha Recordings	GEN002	Netherlands	2003	Sell This Version
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	BMR007		The Outside Agency	The Art Of Penetrating Without Penetrating	Black Monolith Records	BMR007	US	2003	Sell This Version
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	GEN 001		The Outside Agency	There Can Be Only None	Genosha Recordings	GEN 001	Netherlands	2003	Sell This Version
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	GEN005		The Outside Agency	Flip-Flops In The Mosh Pit	Genosha Recordings	GEN005	Netherlands	2004	Sell This Version
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	GEN003		The Outside Agency	Weapons Of Ass Destruction Vol. 3	Genosha Recordings	GEN003	Netherlands	2004	Sell This Version
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	GEN007		The Outside Agency	Motherfucking Ants	Genosha Recordings	GEN007	Netherlands	2005	Sell This Version
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	EOV5		The Outside Agency	Screaming Phoenix VIP	Enzyme VIP	EOV5	Netherlands	2005	Sell This Version
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	GEN008		The Outside Agency	War In The 8th Dimension	Genosha Recordings	GEN008	Netherlands	2005	Sell This Version
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	GEN006½		The Outside Agency	Scenocide 101 Album Sampler With Awesome Title	Genosha Recordings	GEN006½	Netherlands	2005	Sell This Version
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	GEN012		The Outside Agency	No We Don't Want You To Clap Your Fucking Hands	Genosha Recordings	GEN012	Netherlands	2006	Sell This Version
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	GEN010		The Outside Agency & Fracture 4	The Outside Agency & Fracture 4 - Ten Inches Of What?	Genosha Recordings	GEN010	Netherlands	2006	Sell This Version
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	GEN014		The Outside Agency	Return Of The Revenge Of The Dark Alley Space Vampires (From Jupiter)	Genosha Recordings	GEN014	Netherlands	2007	Sell This Version
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	GEN013		The Outside Agency	The Easy Money Remix EP (EP)	Genosha Recordings	GEN013	Netherlands	2007	Sell This Version
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	GEN 015		The Outside Agency & Mindustries	The Outside Agency & Mindustries - Forever Is A Long Time Coming	Genosha Recordings	GEN 015	Netherlands	2007	Sell This Version
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	HKV 009		The Outside Agency	The Way Of The Exploding Fist	Hong Kong Violence	HKV 009	Netherlands	2007	Sell This Version
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	GEN016		The Outside Agency	Goes Noord vs The Rest Of The World II	Genosha Recordings	GEN016	Netherlands	2008	Sell This Version

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September 24, 2022

An interview with The Outside Agency from 2003.

The Outside Agency consists of DJ Hidden and Eye-D. As far as I know you have chosen the name “The Outside Agency” as the name under which you release projects together; is that correct?
Both: Affirmative.

Why did you choose that name? I know you didn’t pick it just for fun. Please explain the story behind The Outside Agency.
Eye-D: We recorded as X-Factor for Coolman Records and when we were asked to do a release for Mokum we needed a new name. Hidden came up with the name. It was carefully lifted from a Clive Barker book, if I remember correctly. In retrospect it turned out to be a very good name since we always came up with material that seemed to come from an outside angle. Meaning outside of the standard in the scene. DJ Hidden: Actually, the name comes from a ghost story by some English writer... the story had the words “Outside Agency” in it, and when I saw it, it instantly appealed to me. But keep the name Clive Barker in there - he’s always been a great inspiration.

Recently your names [Hidden & Eye-D, TOA] seem to pop op all over the place. Do you have any idea why all of a sudden there seems to be so much interest in your work?
DJ Hidden: Musical genres have this tendency to shift constantly, and right now, maybe it’s time for some decent music again. Eye-D: Ha. Well, we have always been around, but what he said about these tendencies to shift is correct. Our first release in 1996 contained tracks we made in 1994. No one was interested in that material back then. We just like to make tracks, and right now what we do appears to appeal to a lot of people. That is a nice bonus.

The latest addition to your work is the recent launch of the Genosha label, which is selling very well. Is there a particular philosophy for this label and what’s the story behind it?
DJ Hidden: Our goal is to provide the “scene” with music that we, at least, consider worthy of releasing. Whether people agree with us on this, is 100% up to them. Eye-D: I am not sure we have specific philosophic thoughts when we put tracks out on Genosha other than what Hidden already mentioned. We release what we like; not specifically what we know will sell. It’s a risky business, so we hope our tastes will keep us in business.

On Genosha #2 you introduced 2 new artists for who you also did remixes. Can you tell some more about these artists? Can we expect more from them?
Eye-D: Over the years friends have always played or sent us tracks, but we have never been able to do anything with them. We played in London recently and heard the original of Extreme Stress Reaction by Fracture 4. We were very excited about it and offered to do a remix for his own label, Bloodshed Unlimited. It was going to take many months for the release to happen so we decided to move the tracks to Genosha. Fracture 4 (who is from Glasgow, Scotland, by the way) is working on more material for us at the moment. DJ Hidden: The A15E remix we did for Theeq ended up there for various reasons. This remix was actually a release on Adjust’s Low Res Records first, but was limited to 50 white labels and on top of that the pressing was poor. We always loved it, though, and thought it was a shame to just have it exposed to 50 people without proper credits. So we took it and put it on #2. The first time we met Theeq aka DJ Adjust, was in Detroit, the city he’s from, where we played a set for him at the Gold Dollar Bar – a place in the middle of the ghetto of Detroit – and if you’ve ever been there... now, that’s where you really need to watch your ass. I remember we were told not to go outside alone because of possible driveby shootings.

On every release until now, you can hear some funny or weird messages at the end of the tracks. Does this mean anything special or is it a statement of some kind which needs to be explained?
DJ Hidden: They’re actually there for various reasons. We get a good laugh from them; and hearing them back on records that are otherwise quite serious in content basically creates a statement: we do not take ourselves too seriously. Although we’re very serious about the music and related production quality of the tracks we’re putting out, this does not mean some things shouldn’t be taken with a grain of salt. Or a bucket. Also, often, these little pieces of text are often ways of paying tribute to the movies and other media they were sampled from.

The same goes for the website of Eye-D, which is filled with all kinds of humoristic stories and pictures, whilst yours [Hidden] is more serious in nature. How do you work together while it seems that the vision you both have is so completely different? [Or is this a misleading kind of scheme you have launched at the world?]
Eye-D: We are both very serious on the inside. I promise. We just have different goals. I like to make people smile, and I guess Hidden just likes to scare people.

For some reason, it seems to me that you have a somewhat different approach to the music you create than the rest of the “regular” hardcore scene. Is this a coincidence or do you feel that The Outside Agency is not so different at all?
DJ Hidden: I think the only real approach we have is that we try to show that we really do give a fuck. Whether that’s different from the “regular” hardcore scene is for others to decide. Eye-D: Also, probably 90% of our inspiration is derived from sources outside of hardcore. I guess we do operate “outside” of the standard hardcore world, but we don’t try to alienate it. The interest in some tracks surprises even us. When I made Fucking Ants I was just looping a kickdrum in Sound Forge while EQ’ing it live. Hidden said… “Man, record that.” The title’s a Dutch saying, but I guess besides being a neat saying it also tells you something about our approach to things. When the name [TOA] first came about we never could have realized it would apply so well later on.

Do you consider your music to be hardcore or industrial or even something completely different?
DJ Hidden: I think the music we make “borrows” from various genres, such as industrial but could essentially still be called hardcore. I never really liked the amount of subgenres deriving from what we all used to just call by the name it was first given. When a subgenre is created solely on the basis of cloning the things some producer came up with at the time in order to try and initially be different, it seems more of an excuse than anything else. It should be the music that has to be kept fresh, not the name given to it.

In addition: Are either of you involved in any other music besides hardcore/industrial? If so, what kind of styles on what labels and why?
Eye-D: We also produce and spin drum & bass as DJ Hidden and Eye-D. Most of our time is equally divided between drum & bass and hardcore. Operating within both drum & bass and hardcore gives us a lot of freedom of movement. If we are lacking inspiration for one genre, we can always work on the other. Our production methods also carry over into different genres. It keeps our minds and the music fresh. DJ Hidden: I also produce IDM... or well, music that can't be categorized as dnb or hardcore and tends to go more towards the melodic and experimental side.

We recently stumbled upon an mp3 mix by you called: NewstyleCanTheTreeIn.mp3. Does this mean you do not like this kind of music or is it one of the TOA jokes you just have to learn to appreciate?
Eye-D: My answer to this question would have too much cursing in it so I will let Hidden answer it. DJ Hidden: I have a great dislike towards everything produced for another purpose than to express creativity. If producers actually like what they’re doing and have a certain devotion to what they do… let them do whatever they want... but newstyle to me just seemed like a whole lot of cloning. Eye-D: That answer’s letting newstyle get away with murder.

One final question. There is one weird side project we just have to ask you about: The Beats op je Fiets Crew. What in tarnation’s name is this?!
DJ Hidden: Proof of us not taking things too seriously. The Beats op je Fiets Crew is of a group of friends all devoted to breakbeats. We’ve released one actual record under this name and regularly organize events under this name. Eye-D: Yes, you should all attend. The next one is March 13th. Check out www.beatsopjefiets.com.

Any last words for the future of TOA and/or Genosha?
DJ Hidden: We’re going to continue what we’ve set out to do and tried to explain in this interview. If you don’t like it then please direct your hate mail to the people that actually fuck up things for real. Expect some serious darkness in the coming months - we’re ready for it, and we hope everyone else is, too. Eye-D: The future of Genosha and TOA is that I am going to eat a pizza now.