1987 he built up the band Big Times where he played e-guitar again. The music had a bit more rock and punk elements than the years before. 1990 he started his development in harmony theory, e-guitar and band-training in Hamburg. 1993 he went to his first Goa Trance party and traveled to Goa, India. After that he was addicted to Goa-Trance music. He got himself an Atari computer and quit playing in bands. He had produced his own trance music ever since.