The Mothers

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The Mothers or The Mothers Of Invention.
Frank Zappa teamed with gigging R&B group 'The Soul Giants' in 1964. The band included vocalist Ray Collins, bassist Roy Estrada and drummer Jimmy Carl Black. Zappa emerged as their creative leader and the band became 'The Mothers' (as in mother-f**kers = good musicians). After signing to Verve Records this was appended to 'The Mothers Of Invention' at the insistence of the label. Until Zappa founded his own label the appendage was usually added in mock deference and the band were usually referred to as 'The Mothers'.

Guitarist Elliot Ingber then joined and, for much of their seminal 1960's albums, the group also included woodwind player Bunk Gardner, saxophonist Motorhead Sherwood, keyboardist Don Preston, multi-instrumentalist Ian Underwood and additional drummers Billy Mundi and Art Tripp. Most of these artists appeared on "Freak Out!" (1966), "Absolutely Free" and "We're Only In It For The Money" (1967), "Cruising With Ruben & the Jets" (1968) and "Uncle Meat" (1969).
During Zappa's jazz/classical rock period of 1969-1970, his works were augmented by violinists Don "Sugarcane" Harris and Jean-Luc Ponty, percussionist Ruth Underwood and drummers Aynsley Dunbar and John Guerin. Most of these artists appeared on "Uncle Meat", "Hot Rats", "Weasels Ripped My Flesh" and "Burnt Weeny Sandwich".

From 1970-72, Zappa formed a new line-up with former The Turtles members Flo & Eddie and bassist Jim Pons. Preston, Underwood and Dunbar remained in the line-up, along with additional keyboardist George Duke. This line-up was disbanded, after Zappa was pushed from the stage by a fan in 1972. (He could not tour for the next year). Two more jazz rock albums, "Waka Jawaka" and "The Grand Wazoo", were recorded with much of the previous jazz-rock group including Preston, Ian and Ruth Underwood, Dunbar, Ponty, Huerin and Duke. Trumpeter Sal Marquez was also added. Zappa and the band went back to vocal rock songs with jazz elements in 1973 on "Over-Nite Sensation", then 1974's "Apostrophe" and 1975's "One Size Fits All". Much of the same band remained, along with new members Bruce Lambourne Fowler (trombone), Tom Fowler (bass) and Napoleon M. Brock (saxophone). In 1975 Zappa called a halt to this backing band. By the late '70s an entirely new support band was formed, with only occasional participation from past members, including a re-appearance of Captain Beefheart. Beginning in the 80's, past 'Mothers' members Collins, Black, Gardner, Sherwood, Preston, Tom and Bruce Fowler occasionally played in a mock Zappa band, 'The Grandmothers'. In 1985 Zappa adroitly used 'The Mothers Of Prevention' in his assault on American censorship aspects of the music industry.

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V-5005-2 Freak Out! — The Mothers The Mothers Of Invention* Freak Out! (Album) Verve Records V-5005-2 US 1966 Sell This Version
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3113-066 Absolutely Free — The Mothers The Mothers Absolutely Free (Album) Verve Records, Verve Records 3113-066 UK 1967 Sell This Version
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V-5045 We're Only In It For The Money — The Mothers The Mothers Of Invention* We're Only In It For The Money (Album, EP) Verve Records, Verve Records V-5045 Australia 1968 Sell This Version
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V6-5055-X, V6-5055x, V6-5055X Cruising With Ruben & The Jets — The Mothers The Mothers Of Invention* Cruising With Ruben & The Jets (Album) Verve Records, Verve Records V6-5055-X, V6-5055x, V6-5055X US 1968 Sell This Version
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RS 6406 Mothers Of Invention — The Mothers Mothers Of Invention* Mothers Of Invention(Acetate) Reprise Records RS 6406 US 1969 Sell This Version
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2MS 2024, 2024 Uncle Meat — The Mothers The Mothers Of Invention* Uncle Meat (Album) Bizarre Records, Bizarre Records, Reprise Records 2MS 2024, 2024 US 1969 Sell This Version
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RL-19-0 The **** Of The Mothers / Matthew, Luke, Mark, And John — The Mothers The Mothers Of Invention* / Methuselah The Mothers Of Invention* / Methuselah - The **** Of The Mothers / Matthew, Luke, Mark, And John(LP, Transcription) AFRTS RL-19-0 US 1969 Sell This Version
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RS 6370 Burnt Weeny Sandwich — The Mothers The Mothers Of Invention* Burnt Weeny Sandwich (Album) Bizarre Records, Reprise Records RS 6370 Germany 1970 Sell This Version
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MS. 2028, MS 2028, 2028 Weasels Ripped My Flesh — The Mothers The Mothers Of Invention* Weasels Ripped My Flesh (Album) Bizarre Records MS. 2028, MS 2028, 2028 France 1970 Sell This Version
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M 52042 Fillmore East - June 1971 — The Mothers The Mothers Fillmore East - June 1971 (Album) Bizarre Records, Reprise Records M 52042 US 1971 Sell This Version
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TC-PCS 7162, 1E 228 ○ 05138 Some Time In New York City — The Mothers John & Yoko* / Plastic Ono Band* With A Cast Of Thousands (6), Frank Zappa And The Mothers Of Invention* John & Yoko* / Plastic Ono Band* With A Cast Of Thousands (6), Frank Zappa And The Mothers Of Invention* - Some Time In New York City (Album) Apple Records, Apple Records TC-PCS 7162, 1E 228 ○ 05138 UK 1972 Sell This Version
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K 44209 The Grand Wazoo — The Mothers The Mothers The Grand Wazoo (Album) Bizarre Records, Reprise Records K 44209 UK 1972 Sell This Version
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P-8245R Just Another Band From L.A. — The Mothers The Mothers Just Another Band From L.A. (Album) Bizarre Records P-8245R Japan 1972 Sell This Version
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41 000 Over-Nite Sensation — The Mothers Frank Zappa And The Mothers Frank Zappa And The Mothers - Over-Nite Sensation (Album) Discreet 41 000 France 1973 Sell This Version
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2DS 2202 Roxy & Elsewhere — The Mothers Zappa* / Mothers* Zappa* / Mothers* - Roxy & Elsewhere (Album) Discreet 2DS 2202 US 1974 Sell This Version
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HRES 291-74, HRES 291-74 (LS) Bongo Fury — The Mothers Zappa* / Beefheart* / Mothers* Zappa* / Beefheart* / Mothers* - Bongo Fury (Album) Discreet HRES 291-74, HRES 291-74 (LS) Spain 1975 Sell This Version
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DS 2216 One Size Fits All — The Mothers Frank Zappa And The Mothers Of Invention* Frank Zappa And The Mothers Of Invention* - One Size Fits All (Album) Discreet DS 2216 Canada 1975 Sell This Version
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RL 20-6 Bongo Fury / Another Live — The Mothers Zappa* / Beefheart* / Mothers* / Todd Rundgren's Utopia* Zappa* / Beefheart* / Mothers* / Todd Rundgren's Utopia* - Bongo Fury / Another Live(LP, Transcription) AFRTS RL 20-6 US 1976 Sell This Version
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R2 70539 Freaks And Motherfu*#@%! — The Mothers Frank's Mothers Of Invention* Freaks And Motherfu*#@%!(CD, Album) FOO - EEE Records R2 70539 US 1991 Sell This Version
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ESMCD 963 Piquantique - Stockholm 1973 — The Mothers Frank Zappa / Mothers* Frank Zappa / Mothers* - Piquantique - Stockholm 1973 (Album, Comp) Essential! Records, Castle Communications, FOO - EEE Records ESMCD 963 UK 1991 Sell This Version
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R2 70540 Unmitigated Audacity - Live At Notre Dame University May 12, 1974 — The Mothers Frank's Mothers Of Invention* Unmitigated Audacity - Live At Notre Dame University May 12, 1974 (Album, Comp) Rhino Records (2), FOO - EEE Records R2 70540 US 1991 Sell This Version
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ESMCD 957 The Ark — The Mothers Frank's Mothers Of Invention* The Ark (Album, Comp) FOO - EEE Records ESMCD 957 Europe 1991 Sell This Version
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R2 70542 'Tis The Season To Be Jelly — The Mothers Mothers Of Invention* 'Tis The Season To Be Jelly (Album, Comp) FOO - EEE Records R2 70542 US 1991 Sell This Version
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R2 71019 Electric Aunt Jemima — The Mothers Zappa* / Mothers* Zappa* / Mothers* - Electric Aunt Jemima(CD) FOO - EEE Records R2 71019 US 1992 Sell This Version
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R2 71021 Swiss Cheese/Fire! — The Mothers Frank Zappa 's Mothers* Frank Zappa 's Mothers* - Swiss Cheese/Fire!(2xCD, Comp, RE) FOO - EEE Records R2 71021 US 1992 Sell This Version

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reservoir_dog

reservoir_dog

May 12, 2018
edited over 4 years ago
Zappa's releases appear under two artist names due to the way they were credited (1. The Mothers or The Mothers of Invention 2. Frank Zappa), however, this has lead to a lot of confusion and there appears to be a lot of releases that have been wrongly listed. The following official releases are listed under Frank Zappa but are actually credited to Frank Zappa & the Mothers or Frank Zappa & the Mothers of Invention or other variations that refer to the Mothers (of Invention) as part of the artist name (see below):
- Lumpy Gravy (Verve release) - Francis Vincent Zappa & Abnuceals Emuukha Electronic Symphony & Chorus and maybe some of the Mothers of Invention. Should this be listed under either artist list? Like the Mothers of Prevention release and Zappa / Beefheart / Mothers release it poses problems for listing.
- 200 Motels - Frank Zappa (on sleeve & label) , however, the inner sleeve credits The Mothers of Invention
- Sometime in New York - John & Yoko / Plastic Ono Band. Although The Mothers of Invention are not credited on the cover, credit is given to The Mothers (inner sleeve disc 2) & The Mothers of Invention (label on side 4 & inner sleeve disc1), however, Frank Zappa is not credited only The Mothers (of Invention) so it should not be listed under Frank Zappa.
- Over-Nite Sensation - Zappa / Mothers (front cover) & The Mothers (labels)
- Roxy and Elsewhere - Zappa / Mothers (listed wrongly under BOTH artist names - duplicated) Should not be listed under Frank Zappa. For the cassette version someone has made a separate entry as Frank Zappa & the Mothers (it's a sole entry - no other releases appear under that artist name, only the cassette. It actually should be listed under the Roxy & Elsewhere master list as another version.
- One Size Fits All - Frank Zappa & The Mothers of Invention
- Bongo Fury - Zappa / Beefheart / Mothers
- Cruising With Ruben & the Jets - Mothers of Invention (referred to on the front cover) / Ruben & the Jets - Mothers of Invention (on labels) Listed wrongly under BOTH artist names - thus duplicated) Should not be listed under Frank Zappa
- Freak Out - The Mothers of Invention (listed wrongly under BOTH artist names - duplicated) Should not be listed under Frank Zappa
- Uncle Meat - The Mothers of Invention (listed wrongly under BOTH artist names - duplicated) Should not be listed under Frank Zappa
- Absolutely Free - The Mothers of Invention (listed wrongly under BOTH artist names - duplicated) Should not be listed under Frank Zappa
- Fillmore East - The Mothers (listed wrongly under BOTH artist names - duplicated) Should not be listed under Frank Zappa
- Weasels Ripped My Flesh - The Mothers of Invention (listed wrongly under BOTH artist names - duplicated) Should not be listed under Frank Zappa
- Just Another Band From LA - las Mothers on the front cover / The Mothers on labels (listed wrongly under BOTH artist names - duplicated) Should not be listed under Frank Zappa
- Burnt Weeny Sandwich - The Mothers of Invention (listed wrongly under BOTH artist names - duplicated) Should not be listed under Frank Zappa
- We're Only in it for the Money - The Mothers of Invention (listed wrongly under BOTH artist names - duplicated) Should not be listed under Frank Zappa

A lot of the bootlegs and other official posthumous releases such as The Roxy Performances are also wrongly listed. I have not gone through the Singles and EPs, but for sure there will be wrongly listed items there also. To add to the confusion most of the releases wrongly duplicated & listed in the Frank Zappa master list have the wrong dates (not the original release date as is the convention). So the chronology has been distorted. One of the reasons for all of this confusion is that when Zappa Records started reissuing the early Mothers of Invention LP releases on CD and cassette from around 1985, the artist name was often given as Frank Zappa or Frank Zappa / Mothers of Invention (despite retaining the original covers), however these should still be listed in the master list of the original release as a different version.

The releases that refer to both Frank Zappa as well as the Mothers raise this question - Should they be listed under Frank Zappa OR The Mothers? Perhaps a 3rd artist name should be created: Frank Zappa & the Mothers (of Invention), but that might just make it more confusing. Personally I think that if all releases were put into just one master list (Frank Zappa / The Mothers / The Mothers of Invention) then it might be easier for users of this site to locate each release rather than having to consult multiple lists. Others will probably have a different view though, but at the moment it's like a dog's breakfast!

For such a significant artist I think something needs to be done to correct these problems I have outlined. Frank deserves better.
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