Shark Vegas

Founding members, Mark Reeder and Alistair Gray decided to change their bands name and image after they gained two new members, Leo Walter & Helmut Wittler (previously from "popper" band Soif de la Vie) a few weeks before a New Order tour of Europe in early 1984.

They recorded one single "You Hurt Me" which was released on Factory Records (FAC 111) and on the Toten Hosen's label "Totenkopf" (TOT 11) in Germany.
The demo for this single was originally recorded at Harris Johns studio in Berlin and these rough tapes were eventually taken to Cologne to Conny Planks studio, to be mixed and co-produced by New Order's Bernard Sumner during the few off days during their tour.

However, the Cologne recording session was a complete fiasco.
The studio engineer had suffered a serious back problem a few days before and had to lie in front of the mixing desk on a specially constructed bed. In-between screams of agony, he shouted his engineering instructions to Bernard.
Feeling the need for a update for the B-side, Mark, Alistair and Bernard then went to England and remixed the track (it became "You Hurt Me... but now your flesh lies rotting in hell") for the Factory version of the single for the UK release.
Bernard played some additional guitar and A Certain Ratio's Donald Johnson added some backing vocals.
Mark asked his friend Mark Farrow to design the artwork for both English and German versions of this single and they remain today as two examples of his earliest record sleeve designs.
Although this single went virtually unnoticed in the UK, it became very popular throughout the indie clubs and gay-disco's of the USA and it gave the band a cult following.


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December 12, 2003
A real Factory rarity this one. Produced by Bernard Sumner at Konny Planks studio.
Shark Vegas were a Berlin based group, consiting of ex- Factory Records German representative, Mark Reeder (git/tapes/keybs) and artist Alistair Gray (vox ), Leo Walter (dr/perc) and Helmut Wittler (bass/keybs). Previously Reeder & Grey were known as "Die Unbekannten" together with their drummer Tommy Wiedler (now with Nick Cave's Bad Seeds) they later used drum machines and sequencers (in fact Die Unbekannten are credited with making the first record with a Roland TR-606 'Don't tell me stories').
Shark Vegas reinvented themselves with two new members Walter & Wittler for a New Order European tour in 1984.
'You Hurt me' was one of their concert favorites and Bernard wanted to release it. He also plays guitar at the closing moments of the track. Additional vocals were provided by ACR's Donald Johnson. A different version to this single was also released on Die Toten Hosen's label 'Totenkopf' .
A later Shark Vegas track 'Pretender of love' can also be found on the very rare Factory US compilation 'Young, Popular & Sexy' (Fac US 17)

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