• star_man_20 about 1 year ago

    While submitting corrections to a release (https://www.discogs.com/release/5973422), I was unsure of the correct terminology to describe the packaging the album came in. Nothing is in the guidelines, and a search in the forum found no relevant topics. So I searched online for a cd pressing company (https://www.discmakers.com/), and used their terminology for the release (FYI, the pressing company uses Digipak, Jacket, Jewel Case, and Eco-Wallet - and CD Baby uses the same terminology: https://duplication.cdbaby.com/quoter/templates.aspx).

    I have since been informed that "Jacket" is not the correct term, and I should use "Sleeve" instead, although jacket is the terminology the pressing industry uses. I find it baffling to use terminology on Discogs that is different from what is used in the pressing industry.

    So I searched the forums again, and I came across this old thread: https://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/344795

    I imagine it was a great resource, but the wiki link(s) mentioned are now broken. Are there fixed links for the vinyl? And does a link for proper terminology to describe different cd package types exist on Discogs?

    Also, if not in the FTF to describe the packaging, where is the appropriate place to include the packaging type in the release?

    Tagging quoth09 to include them in this discussion before I make further corrections to the release.
  • andygrayrecords about 1 year ago

    Jacket, cover, sleeve they're all the same thing...there's no 'standard' and anyone who tells you different is forcing their preference on you.

    https://reference.discogslabs.com/wiki/packaging#cd-cdr-cdv is probably the resource you're after.

    Use the release notes to describe the packaging. You can use the FTF field if different packaging types exist for the same release.
  • cheebacheebakid about 1 year ago

    andygrayrecords
    Jacket, cover, sleeve they're all the same thing...there's no 'standard' and anyone who tells you different is forcing their preference on you.
    Truth.

    I have releases that state "Jacket printed in X", "Cover Art by Y", "Liner notes by Z" - all referring to the exterior packaging. Completely interchangeable terms.
  • star_man_20 about 1 year ago

    andygrayrecords
    https://reference.discogslabs.com/wiki/packaging#cd-cdr-cdv is probably the resource you're after.


    YEEEEESSSSSS! That is exactly what I was looking for.

    Now, not trying to nitpick, but is there a story for why the terminology in the link you provided also does not match what is used by the industry? Did I just happen to find 2 companies that use different terminology? Has terminology evolved and the link not been updated? Some other reason?

    And if the link were to be updated, who should I tag/message?
  • Plastic-Demons about 1 year ago

    star_man_20
    Some other reason?


    You mention the 'Industry' are you just referring the 'Industry' in the country where you live? Different countries/continents have their own 'Industry' standard terms, 12" BLACK DISCO BAG or 12" BLACK DIE-CUT SLEEVE?
  • andygrayrecords about 1 year ago

    star_man_20
    Some other reason?


    No idea. Maybe the person who wrote it just used the terms that they use.
    If you look through my submissions (or even my sales comments) you'll probably see that I use cover or sleeve interchangeably.
  • star_man_20 about 1 year ago

    Plastic-Demons
    You mention the 'Industry' are you just referring the 'Industry' in the country where you live? Different countries/continents have their own 'Industry' standard terms,


    That is possible. I looked at about 8 pressing companies' websites, and only 1 used sleeve instead of jacket. They were all U.S. companies IIRC.
  • Plastic-Demons about 1 year ago

    The first and probably one of the largest pressing plants in the UK https://thevinylfactory.com/plant/ refers to 'Sleeves' and 'Gatefolds' which are usually fully titled as 'Gatefold Sleeves' not Jackets.
  • OLDFRIENDSFORSALE about 1 year ago

    the long awaited package field (same as formats/with checkbox) would solve this kind of "issues" and declutter the FTF

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