• jeromy over 6 years ago

    hi,

    have there been any good italo reissues of late?

    cheers,
    jeromy.
  • wiz_of_oz over 6 years ago

    Do you mean "lately"?

    If so, yes. Check www.iventi-records.com for some nice represses: Oxo, Albert One, Felli, Karl Olivas

    Other ones (not iventi):
    Kristal - Love & Magic
    Brian Dalmini - Can You Tell Me
    Wol Vo - Forever (Special Groove Records)
    Ryvon D.J.* - I'm Gonna Dance (Take Me Tonight)
    Glasses - Fall In Love Again (Special Groove Records)
    D. Carred - I Want To Know The World (Bordello A Parigi)
    Nord Est - Overnight

    And there's also this repress of Regina - Mira Me but I've only seen it (too) expensive...

    But maybe you already know those...

  • pong38 over 6 years ago

  • Jogi over 6 years ago

  • musicshaolin over 6 years ago

    Asso-Do it again LP
    Loui$-Magic Dance (I think this one is from 2011)
  • gabiccemare over 6 years ago

    clay pedrini on opilec...
  • latscho over 6 years ago

    gabiccemare
    clay pedrini on opilec...


    what, when, where...? "new dream" on vinyl?
  • Impressions_sonores over 6 years ago


    latscho
    what, when, where...? "new dream" on vinyl?

    it's already on (new) vinyl (I.D. Limited)
  • latscho over 6 years ago

    @ logistian

    yes, but I started with Italo in 2010,
    so it was already sold out soon after I knew about it.
    really a pity they don't repress the older releases.
  • wiz_of_oz over 6 years ago

    wiz_of_oz edité over 6 years ago
    latscho
    really a pity they don't repress the older releases.


    They sometimes do. Like for instance: Buckingham Palace - Give Me Your Name.
    http://www.discogs.com/Buckingham-Palace-Give-Me-Your-Name/master/266218

    Clone also did quite a few:
    http://www.discogs.com/Los-Angeles-TF-Magical-Body/release/911336
    http://www.discogs.com/Dharma-Plastic-Doll/release/820847
    http://www.discogs.com/Gay-Cat-Park-Im-A-Vocoder/release/28158
    recently a LP of GGP of never released tracks http://www.discogs.com/Gay-Cat-Park-Synthetic-Woman/release/3679285
    http://www.discogs.com/Clio-Eyes/release/3282302

    And Flexx/Radius:
    http://www.discogs.com/Pineapples-Feat-Douglas-Roop-Come-On-Closer/release/509174
    http://www.discogs.com/Crazy-Gang-Every-Sunday/release/711945
    http://www.discogs.com/Mr-Master--Blackway-A-Dog-In-The-Night-New-Life-Follow-Me/master/194517
    http://www.discogs.com/Ghecko-Firelight/release/1381026
    http://www.discogs.com/Klein-MBO-Dirty-Talk-Greg-Wilson-Edit/release/1381691
    http://www.discogs.com/Various-Radius-001/release/164176
    http://www.discogs.com/Various-Radius-002/release/168420
    http://www.discogs.com/Various-Radius-003/master/288287
    http://www.discogs.com/Casco-Presents-BWH-Stop-Livin-Up-Original-Mixes/release/316595
    http://www.discogs.com/Barry-Mason-Body-Get-Your-Body-Best-Of-Superradio-Part-2/master/419672
    http://www.discogs.com/Mr-Master--Blackway-A-Dog-In-The-Night-New-Life-Follow-Me/master/194517
    http://www.discogs.com/Sun-La-Shan-Catch-Best-Of-Superradio-Records-Part-4/master/12390
    http://www.discogs.com/Camaros-Gang-Fuerza-Major-Best-Of-Superradio-Part-3/master/12445

    Though I have bought a lot of the reissues, nothing beats having the original in the end mostly. And sometimes it's not even that expensive to buy the original.

  • latscho over 6 years ago

    wiz_of_oz
    They sometimes do.


    I hope so.
  • wiz_of_oz over 6 years ago

    wiz_of_oz edité over 6 years ago
    latscho
    latscho
    about 14 hours ago

     wiz_of_oz
    They sometimes do.

    I hope so.


    A question of demand and supply I guess (as put it on your wantlist).
  • latscho over 6 years ago

  • latscho over 6 years ago

    There are some Italo b-sides on these Balearica bootleg series..
    http://www.discogs.com/Various-Balearica-6/release/3423413
    http://www.discogs.com/Various-Balearica-10/release/4180706
    (don't know about the sound-quality, but I would rather not buy it.)
  • henrypercy over 6 years ago

    Now who is going to re-issue the re-issues? This is what keeps me up at night, as most of them are out of print and upwards of 40 quid (Flash In Your Mind, New Dream, Lectric Workers, Safety Copy etc)
  • konkordski over 6 years ago

    Has Lily Ann ‎– Going Crazy been reissued so far, legit or not ? Any known edits under different name, or tracks sampling it, besides this one?
  • Minimaal over 6 years ago

    i strongly hope this is not a boot... because the other 2 releases on the label are two bootlegs, two of my most sought after records new wave / synth (and i admit i bought IKO 83 - good sound for a boot... until the official relase will arrive ^^)

    too bad love disgrace 7" is not included ... how can an "essential" collection not include that? :-)
    latscho
    http://www.discogs.com/Amin-Peck-Essential-Trax/release/4325999

  • latscho over 6 years ago

      Minimaal
    Love Disgrace on a 12" would have been nice, yes.
    There is already a nice bootleg with great sound >Cosmic Explorer.
    It was not so urgent to bootleg these songs in my opinion,
    because you can get the originals for 20-40 Euro at these days.. and it pays.
  • latscho over 6 years ago

    I only hope that demand is there that it is worth to repress IDL 003 and IDL 004.
    These songs are always on my mind..

    Dario Dell'Aere‎– Eagles In The Night
    Frank Tavaglione–Tumidanda
    Clay Pedrini–New Dream

  • Lordtiton over 6 years ago

  • housesweethauss over 5 years ago

    dark entries represses Tarzan loves the summer nights and Victrola 12"
    no info in the website but already listed here
    http://www.discogs.com/Big-Ben-Tribe-Tarzan-Loves-The-Summer-Nights/release/5067783
    can't wait
  • hysteric over 5 years ago

    housesweethauss
    dark entries represses Tarzan loves the summer nights and Victrola 12"
    no info in the website but already listed here
    http://www.discogs.com/Big-Ben-Tribe-Tarzan-Loves-The-Summer-Nights/release/5067783
    can't wait

    already 50+ want it, and me also ;-)
    Dark Entries is a great label.

    just a question to you guys:
    when an exact 1/1 reissue of such a 'holy grail' is done, does it also lose some magic?
    For me a little bit...
  • Aftering_at_my_way over 5 years ago

    Aftering_at_my_way edité over 5 years ago
    hysteric
    just a question to you guys:
    when an exact 1/1 reissue of such a 'holy grail' is done, does it also lose some magic?
    For me a little bit...

    It should't stop a collector to want the original, because that's what's "the colleccting part" is all about to me. I have the original Big Ben Tribe, and I will still be as happy with it to be honnest even with a copy on the market. I would feel it lost some of it's uniqueness in a certain way. More copy's on the market that looks the same always give that feeling a bit I guess.
    As a result, does it hurt when a 300 € is only worth 50 € tomorrow? Yes, of course, a bit disappointing, because monetary value and rarity are known as being essential parts of "collecting", this cannot be denied.
    We may all be different kind of collectors or music lovers, but in this world it always feels kind of strange when a original record is droppng in value because of official or unofficial reissues..

    Still I honnestly think that it is for the better that a rare record is reissued. It was made to be listened, so that really needs to be and stay it's main purpose, no matter what.
    The only thing that it really needs to be, is quality: pressing, remastering (from original analogue tapes), sound quality. That's a must! NO bad bootleg shit from mp3 to grab money.. Focus on the music has to be kept.

    I'm not the biggest fan of exact 1/1 copies, I like more 99% exact copies. I do prefer when it has 1 or 2 different details to it, in respect for the original and the collectors who are the target audience for such rare and unknown records/represses anyway.
    Confusion has to be avoided!!

    Originals needs to be recognised easily and also respected. Not counterfeited with financial intentions.. That' would be the theory, in practice we honnesty don't always know. I for example am super happy with the 'Brian Dalmini' reissue, even tho I don't know for 100% if that was really officialy.. It looks and sounds really nice. My needs for the original are still there but on a more relaxed way..
    If I find one reasonably priced original I will buy it and be happier then with the repress, for sure. There is a certain mystyque to an original, it smells and feels like those times.. It has an 80's identity, a pressing sound made from analogue tapes. Something reissues can't really copy these days.

    But sometimes the need for the original would even disappear, because as we all know, once you have the record, the love for the record gets 20 to 30% less then before in some cases. Especially with rare "collector" records of course, because for the records you only love based on the music the love sometimes gets 20 to 30% higher once you have it, no matter it's rarity :) Difficult to explain in words, but I guess we all know and feel what I wanna say here

    Imagine that Japan would repress all Italo grails in a 1/1 copy, I would probably buy them all. Japan has an eye for detail and pure quality, they make exact copies till the most refined detail but still with respect for the original. That's a good option for music fanatics. I could easily live with a Japanese reissue, because they usually are 99,9% reissues, not 100% reissues. And they even may have a better sound then it's original. For some records like "Expansives - Life With you" I wouldn't need a better sound, it has it charm like it is, but for many other Italos it's good that they get a brand new, good sounding pressing. Bye bye all the hassle with Italian graded VG+ crap... I get sick of records that are sold for an arm and a leg and sounds like trash.. Italo-collectors should really learn to get more demanding, like the collectors of other genres:
    - Mint or Near Mint = Full value of it's rarity (pure collector stuff)
    - VG+ = 1/2 or 1/3 of full value: for music lovers and fanatics who just want to enjoy the music and don't mind the pops
    - VG = Throw away prices, for those who like to furfill their idea of "hey man, those record are 30 years old, what d'you expect?.."

    Some don't care about the condition, they just wanna have it. I sometimes wonder what they are doing with the record? And on the other hand I can also understand that sometimes you just wanna have it, because it kind of needs to be a part of you. No words can explain this. Kind of wanting that girl that won' probably be the best for you, while you have the choice of plenty other who would :) Imperfection is sometimes just perfect enough...
  • Homestudioo75 over 5 years ago

    new releases and new stuff
    https://clone.nl/search/italo
  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago

    wiz_of_oz edité over 5 years ago
    Interesting post Aftering and I agree with a lot you said. Didn't know that the Japanese were so good at repressing although I heard of Japanese pressings but that's mostly of records (rock) I'm not that interested in.
    The collectors' magic of having that/or looking for that one rare record is gone for a large part after a repress although even the repress can become rare/sold out quickly sometimes... Mostly these represses are long after the harcore collectors have done their digging so some of them had their "magic" moment of finding that original record already. I also think a (decent) repress is also a way of giving a record a (second chance of) recognition from a wider audience.
  • ryosuke63 over 5 years ago

    Aftering_at_my_way
    - VG = Throw away prices, for those who like to furfill their idea of "hey man, those record are 30 years old, what d'you expect?.."

    Then I'm curious, what do you consider G+ to mean? How about G? Then Fair? Your grading system seems to take a seriously steep dive very quickly.

    I generally agree with your thoughts on 1:1 represses, by the way.
  • Homestudioo75 over 5 years ago

  • Aftering_at_my_way over 5 years ago

    Aftering_at_my_way edité over 5 years ago
    Not sure what to think about G+, it is a condition I usually don't care about. To me these are unplayable records, with scratches, etc... VG is actually the same for me to be honnest, except they are still "playable" with a lots of pops and noise. Visually also abused by DJ's. Most nice records are VG+ or NM/M. 99% of the time when it's lower then that you get crap, and the reason people buy those lower conditioned records is not often to play them. Which is also fine of course, as i tried to explain previously.

    VG+ is actually always a surprise, many people have different ideas about it. This is an easy condition to mislead people too, unfortunaly, lots of overgrading going on, followed by lots of discussion. With VG+ sellers can hide behind their overgradings with an excuse.. But sometimes honnest sellers deliver pure quality with VG+

    It wasn't my idea to begin a discussion about conditions, but more a way of expressing what I wanted to say by giving those examples. Mm, it may be a little bold the way i did it, but ok, hope you don't mind..
  • ryosuke63 over 5 years ago

    Aftering_at_my_way
    To me [G+] are unplayable records, with scratches, etc...

    discogs
    Generally worth 10-15 percent of the Near Mint value. Good does not mean Bad! A record in Good or Good Plus condition can be put onto a turntable and will play through without skipping. But it will have significant surface noise and scratches and visible groove wear (on a styrene record, the groove will be starting to turn white).

    Sorry, but I hear the term "unplayable" thrown around a lot and it irks me. Lots of scratches and surface noise doesn't mean it's unplayable. Does it skip? No? Is it broken? No? It's playable.

    Anyway, I'm not starting a fight - I just worry about selling to someone who thinks the way you do about grading. It's just not the standard. Getting back on topic, and going off the subject of Alexander Robotnick that Homestudioo75 just mentioned, what does everyone think of the repress of Ce N'Est Q'Un Début on Medical Records? I have most of their other reissues but not that one.
  • Aftering_at_my_way over 5 years ago

    If that someone thinks like me, please don't sell him that record :))
    "significant surface noise and scratches and visible groove wear", in other words the record is dead (in my book), but hey.. it doesn't skip... Hurray.. hehe...
    Anyway, all fine my friend. It's ok to have different opinions.
  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago

    ryosuke63
    what does everyone think of the repress of Ce N'Est Q'Un Début on Medical Records?


    I have it and suits me. The original was always a bit too expensive for me somehow. Price has dropped a lot I see now... I wouldn't immediately order it online since I have this reissue now and also a reissue of Dance Boy Dance and Problemes D'Amour (Materiali Sonori) and also bootleg on Benelux. Maybe if I find the original in a shop or recordfair for not too much I'd buy it. That feeling of having the original is still unbeatable.
  • hysteric over 5 years ago


    Aftering_at_my_way
    Some don't care about the condition, they just wanna have it. I sometimes wonder what they are doing with the record?

    Hi, depending on the record I can be happy with a G+ copy..
    example: I recently got Magic Men - Popcorn, no pic sleeve and a LOT of scratches but it plays fine.
    So I have an original copy to DJ with and it cost me almost nothing :-)
  • musicshaolin over 5 years ago

    I don´t know what to think of all these represses/reissues.
    When I started collecting I was always happy to hold an original copy in my hands.
    I mean,there are some really nice records on labels like ZYX or Rams Horn etc.
    but to me an original copy is like...I guess it´s an old school collectors passion thing...
    Later-as I figured out that to own all the originals you need a fortune I also started to buy records like Safety_Copy series and other reissues just to own all the fantastic music.
    Meanwhile some of these reissues have very high prices too...
    But to be honest it gives me so much more to go after the old originals...
    I also have Big Ben Tribe and recently I was lucky to get Massimo Vita-Jenny,
    but now when I hear that both records are being repressed I am afraid that the value of these records will fall. It´s an interesting discussion however!
    Do you think that the originals will lose its price/value not only financially?
    (Besides from the pressing quality,sound quality and the artwork they often stand for)
    On one hand it´s good that new Italo fans and those who can´t afford all the expensive records are able to get these gems for reasonable prices and it keeps the Italo spirit alive.
    On the other hand I am not sure -if there is not the Italo spirit behind the repress but the idea of making profit(OK, I understand that there is no profit if you press 150 copies;if it is for the passion it doesn´t matter if you make +/- zero ; but when the prices are immediately going up to 50 Euro and more and everyone smells big business it is very questionable to me... )or just to make a record more available because it´s rare -it could lead to a commercialization and - what is hopefully not going to happen-Italo-Disco loses it´s magic and it results in shitty MP3 industry bullshit and dropping prices all over- collecting records is an expensive hobby as we all know and I hope there will not be a sell-out like it is for most of that laptop DJs that sell their soul to Traktor and MP3s.
    If this will happen someday I probably will sell my collection and my equipment before...
    But let´s not paint too black here ;-)
  • Aftering_at_my_way over 5 years ago

    Aftering_at_my_way edité over 5 years ago
    Like your response Musicshaolin.
    What makes Italo interesting, except the music, are the talks wth friends. A very particular thing about it is that today a lot of Italo collectors have lived those days closely. They still have the old spirit, the true stories, the particular Italo passion. They were 80's teens. But many of those collectors are 45 to 50 years old now. What will future bring when the old generation leaves the hobby one by one?
    New generation will take over, new stories will be made, they grow up with internet music, mp3, throw away music, a discovery today is "facebook food" and forgetten tomorrow.. The acces to the rare records is 1 PC-knob away. Mm, well for some part

    Ok, the original records are still as rare, the music as good, but money can make it all happen today, not the hunt, not the info you get through friends... Mysteries are seemingly not that interesting anymore, but that still was what makes the hobby so exciting too in the past. I mean bigtime... not only in the Italo Disco, in many other genres too.

    I never lived Italo Disco from it's beginnings, but I was a Vinyl lover long before the internet, when everybody throwed vinyl away for CD's. I've made trips of 400km in a day to buy that 1 record that hounted my dreams for days. That record is worth 2 euro I guess on discogs today, not wanted and not rare, but back then I couldn't find it anywhere in Belgium shops.. It was way more fun and rewarding to do some effort, to hope it was not sold yet, having it in my hands and looking at it with goosebumps, being so delicate with your new treasure.. It gave me great memories too.. It is not completely gone because still many people hunt in shops and warehouses! But it is also true that sellers are aware of the net, and diggers too.. Hunting takes TIME, something nobody seems to have anymore..

    The mainpart of the hobby (except the music) is feeling shivers and being excited with your passion, and that get's kind of "different" with all records that are easy to catch.
    To me vinyl is a more then 20 years passion that eats my time (except for work/family/friends). But it was my own choice and still is today with tons of passion.

    I told all these things already on this forum and euroflash, so sorry for all those who already read this from me, but it just keeps being an interesting subject..

    We are like in a transition phase today!! The new guys are in town, but the truth and stories are still told by old generation, the ones who really lived it.. A good mixture for old genres.. Music is music, but a musical hobby is more then music alone..

    Most official reissues and represses are important, they are a MUST for many reasons, they are needed for the music! But they also are another real sign of times that are changing...
  • maxhim over 5 years ago


    Aftering_at_my_way
    Bye bye all the hassle with Italian graded VG+ crap... I get sick of records that are sold for an arm and a leg and sounds like trash.. Italo-collectors should really learn to get more demanding, like the collectors of other genres


    This drives me crazy indeed , i've send 2 packages back to italy last year.
    One of them was sold as mint, with a big scratsc
    VG+ seems to be a braod concept in this bussiness.
  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago


    Aftering_at_my_way
    Most official reissues and represses are important, they are a MUST for many reasons, they are needed for the music! But they also are another real sign of times that are changing...


    In that perspective it's still quite amazing there are represses of italo on vinyl at all. Well, there is obviously a market for it but I think not so big and getting smaller...
  • maxhim over 5 years ago

    I wonder if it does.
    If i find time i will make some sales statistics out of discogs from 2012 and 2013 with
    2011 as basic year.
    I think there were more transaction in 2013 then 2012.

  • Aftering_at_my_way over 5 years ago


    wiz_of_oz
    In that perspective it's still quite amazing there are represses of italo on vinyl at all.

    Ooh yes my friend, it's amazing. I think that many of us consider it "normal" because we are used to get those new Flashback's, Iventi's,.. every few months. But we are really lucky, and I'm thankful to Kimmo and Marcello and his team! Something truly special.. Especially because it is driven by pure musical passion and no financial reasons.
  • hysteric over 5 years ago

    wiz_of_oz
    In that perspective it's still quite amazing there are represses of italo on vinyl at all.

    still surprises me too

    wiz_of_oz
    Well, there is obviously a market for it but I think not so big and getting smaller...

    I also think the market for these gets smaller, imo many people who collected represses .."casual" collectors and DJs now buy more stuff like L.I.E.S. label.
    It's fair to say that underground club music has moved away from disco and italo and back to house music.

    Also, so many of the italo records with wide appeal have already been repressed (Tarzan is really one of the last) so what's left is the "freaky" stuff which is too strange for the casual listener, and the hardcore collector will only want the original (or have it already)
  • kroko over 5 years ago

    Personal i think it's nice to have some repress of expensive tracks.
    But still i keep looking for the originals. Even if they are in not the best condition.

    It's just the "crazy collector " in me. The feeling of an old record shall never be the same as with a repress.

    In any case it's good that Italo is kept alive with repress and pressing unreleased tracks. We all must be happy with the people behind Flashback / Iventi / Bordello / Safety copy / Flexx / special groove / to name a few.
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    Hi ya'll,
    I like this topic :)
    Reissues/Reprints are the most important thing for a living and growing Italo-Scene.
    In the last 3 years the number of members in this forum has grown from 500 (when I startet) to almost 1000 now. But I think it takes a little spark to fell totally in love with the music and to start collecting those records. Reprints can actuate this interest and motivation.
      hysteric
    I think the house/techno listener in general cannot get the essence of italo easily, because they are driven only by the beat. But the lyrics/singing with the italo-slang are the most beautiful thing. A background of 80s Pop or Hip-Hop is helpful to experience Italo-music in total.

    Instrumental Version of Expansives:
    http://www.discogs.com/Various-Under-The-Influence-Volume-Three-A-Collection-Of-Rare-Soul-Disco/master/572317

    There are new copies of Spacer Woman and Nexus floating around.
    (Attention, the copy of Charlie I heard suffered from surface noise especially in the beginning.)
  • hysteric over 5 years ago



    [quote=latscho  hysteric
    I think the house/techno listener in general cannot get the essence of italo easily, because they are driven only by the beat. But the lyrics/singing with the italo-slang are the most beautiful thing. A background of 80s Pop or Hip-Hop is helpful to experience Italo-music in total. [/quote]
    I agree, if they play it, it's nearly always a dubbed version or edit without vocals.

    latscho
    Instrumental Version of Expansives:
    http://www.discogs.com/Various-Under-The-Influence-Volume-Three-A-Collection-Of-Rare-Soul-Disco/master/572317

    makes me a bit angry to see this, it's ok for every other song to have the vocal but not Expansives? what the fuck?
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    -Yes, even the Chicago House heads mostly don't play the lyrics.
    -Strange compilation indeed.

  • latscho over 5 years ago

    about the new Sensation Records Compilation No. 1:

    + The female Version of Charley - I Can't Love is a real treasure!
    + Giusy Ravia and Marylin Love sound great!
    - It's a pity that Tony Moore D.J. wasn't released on a separate vinyl.

    I am very happy with it. I never considered it to be possible at all.It's just too much at one.
    But I guess it was an attempt to reach as many customers as possible, to present something for everyone.

    Too many songs on one vinyl are not good, because the grooves are too small.
    This leads to needle skipping, and low volume. I think 2 tracks on one side are enough,
    especially for disco music.
  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago

    wiz_of_oz edité over 5 years ago
    Repress of Massimo Vita - Jenny (Bordello A Parigi/Moustache) of 150pieces sold out in 16 hours. Is this the new selling-strategy of italorepresses?

    http://www.discogs.com/Massimo-Vita-Jenny/release/5096748
  • streppe over 5 years ago

    i don't understand why it's limited to 150 pieces. bordello a parigi was 'suprised' the limited to 150 patrizia pellegrino was sold out so fast.
    i'm sure they could sell 300 Jenny copies, so why limited to 150?
    with 300 they make more money (to release new stuuf or take risks with other releases) and they make more people happy!
  • razors over 5 years ago

    I like it, 150 copies is enough it makes this label special. And i wish a have patrizia pellegrino, i was too late...
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    I don't know, and it don't belong to me to say that, but...
    BAP has come up with 13 releases in 2013. That's really amazing!
    and even more awesome is the fact: It's going on and on...!!!
    The italo-reissues seem to be only for the label followers as a special gift.
    By the way: The very first and very best releases "Model Man" and "D.Carred" are still available in many shops.
  • zolono over 5 years ago

    zolono edité over 5 years ago
    wiz_of_oz
    Repress of Massimo Vita - Jenny (Bordello A Parigi/Moustache) of 150pieces sold out in 16 hours

    i really don't believe in it.
    5-10 italo buyers enthusiasts i understand, but if more -don't understand.
    The others is the Italian traders speculators?

    I never buy repressed -they truly has the original sound?
    this is the real question.
    not the original sound is senseless buying
  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago

    wiz_of_oz edité over 5 years ago
    razors
    I like it, 150 copies is enough it makes this label special


    That's an argument I can live with. Some kinda compromise between hardcore collectors and new italo-enthusiasts.
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    But I don't like about this selling strategy, that it is so stressful and that you must buy with PayPal.
  • Aftering_at_my_way over 5 years ago

    Aftering_at_my_way edité over 5 years ago
    Glad I bought "Jenny" directly. I wasn't aware that these were limited pressing..
    Oh well, not a bad thing, especially because there are 150 which gives enough chance to everybody for buying it. As I told earlier, the hunt was made collecting so exciting too. You needed to be on the right time on the right place, and take the decision on the spot for rare items (in shops). No time to think 4 weeks about it to see how popularity growed... It may be gone by then.. It's kind of the same with limited re-pressing. Sometimes you are on it, right time, right spot and you need to decision fast or it's too late. You can only blame yourself to be so hesitating (maybe a bit lazy, thinking you can always buy it later with the ease of the net). That's clearly what happened here (and many times in the past). Same goes for many other underground genres today. Limited represses... Makes it all more exciting!!

    Yes the represses are out there, they are made for the love of music, not for being left with hundreds unsaled items in the room of the label/seller... We have to understand and respect this too. There is not a lot of money too make with it for the labels, but it may cost them a lot if they are not sold....
    You want it? Than be on it while you can! If you sleep on it, you're too late. Welcome too vinyl collecting ;) Makes these represses also more interesting to collect in my opinion.

    Sometimes it's a pitty. For he ID Limited sublabel of Iventi for exemple, I have every release except 1: "Eagles In The Night" I was waiting too long, and now it's sold out and pricing on market are going through the roof... My own fault.. Now I have something to look after. :)

    By the way, Are you never tired to look after the same old items all the time on your computer screen? Isn't it fun to have a new sleeve picture of a new repress in your mind to want? I think it is fun. The hobby keeps evolving and being enjoyable. It keeps the drive going.

    The circle is never full...
  • razors over 5 years ago

    You say this good Aftering_at_my_way :) I think the same.
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    Well, It can also be alright if a limited reprint is sold out after a few days or weeks.
    I hope all the real Italo Lovers have secured their copy, not only the speculators and dealers.
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    Now as Iventi has done the primary work, maybe we can collect money for a private pressing 150 copys of Tony Moore DJ ?
    For example single-sided on 45 rpm. Exclusive for Iventi fans. Just for mixing-fun at home to safe the original copy, and to power-play at Italo-parties.

    I would give 50 euro for a copy if necessary.
  • zolono over 5 years ago

    i would give 50 euro for a copy

    all vinyl of today has bad compressed sound.
    I would't give even 1 euro (including shipping)) for a copy.
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    Not true. The Analog Lords are still doing excellent work!
  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago


    zolono
    all vinyl of today has bad compressed sound.


    Ha!
  • zolono over 5 years ago

    Ha!

    Ha?
  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago

    wiz_of_oz edité over 5 years ago
    zolono

    zolono
    about 6 hours ago

    Ha!

    Ha?


    "All vinyl of today has bad compressed sound" You sound like an old man saying everything was better in the old days.
  • zolono over 5 years ago

    wiz_of_oz
    You sound like an old man saying everything was better in the old days.

    here is the answer:
    latscho
    The Analog Lords are still doing excellent work!

    ))
  • maxhim over 5 years ago


    zolono
    You sound like an old man saying everything was better in the old days


    I don't state the u.s.s.r. was better under Leonid Breznjev haha, for example
  • housesweethauss over 5 years ago

    before we had reissues for djs (radius, flexx etc), now it appeals to collectors, 1 / 1 replicas, limited pressings...makes me a bit sad.. i love music, not plastic
  • maxhim over 5 years ago

    I think there are only 2 tragic things can happen to a italo head
    1. kwowing and having all italo's
    2. not kwowing (and having all italo's)
  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago

    wiz_of_oz edité over 5 years ago
    zolono
    zolono
    about 4 hours ago

    wiz_of_oz
    You sound like an old man saying everything was better in the old days.

    here is the answer:

    latscho
    The Analog Lords are still doing excellent work!

    ))


    And who are they? If you explained yourself a little better I wouldn't have to guess what you mean.
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    maxhim
    I think there are only 2 tragic things can happen to a italo head
    1. kwowing and having all italo's
    2. not kwowing (and having all italo's)


    Good point. I think it's true.
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    with few exceptions!
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    housesweethauss
    before we had reissues for djs (radius, flexx etc.)


    Oh yes, they had indestructable wax of the highest quality.
    But now it's almost 4 years doing without them.
    Or is this a new Flexx-logo...? never seen this before: http://www.discogs.com/viewimages?label=Flexx

    I am so glad with "Big Ben Tribe" coming up on Dark Entries!
    I am moved to tears just thinking about it :')
  • henrypercy over 5 years ago

    I'm a fairly new collector of Italo and certainly not on the level as some of you heavyweights here ;)
    I have to say I am not precious about reissues...I mean I am happy with them especially if the originals are all gone. However, it is annoying when the prices of the reissues go through the roof..then I don't mind paying a bit extra for the original. Like the BWH Casco remix was over £30 in some cases, so I might as well stretch out a bit more and get the original. Makes more sense to me.
    I am glad that I bought a copy of Jenny. I only heard it recently but decided to buy as I know that a lot of these tracks take a while to sink in. Now I am bummed that I did not buy Hot Girls Of Italo-Disco as now it is expensive. At the time I did not know the tracks and now I really like them so I missed out there. Heigh ho (in the words of the great Fabian Nesti)
    It would be interesting to see how many of the D Carred were pressed. It is a great reissue and I am glad I got one for a normal price. I guess it is simpler to press a lot less, make it a bit more exclusive and when they are gone, they are gone. However it is very frustrating when you miss it. I agree that they would easily sell if more were pressed, but that might make them less desirable. Who can tell...
  • hysteric over 5 years ago

    Unless you're a millionaire I think it's impossible to keep up with every reissue nowadays, especially if you're also buying in other genres.
    Not to mention trying to catch 80s originals and "new stuff"
  • kroko over 5 years ago

    Maybe a bit offtopic but another thing i cannot understand :

    D. Carred - I Want To Know The World Reissue

    66 wants and 9 copy's for sale.

    Mint mint copies for 15 euro.

    Is it to expensive or do they wait until the copy's are 5 euro ?
  • zolono over 5 years ago

    kroko
    D. Carred - I Want To Know The World Reissue

    hmm.. good music.
    but question: original "A - I Want To Know The World (Vocal)" has 5:35 diuration, and reissue has 5:49 -it looks like not original thing
  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago


    kroko
    Is it to expensive or do they wait until the copy's are 5 euro ?


    It's easier to click want than to pay 15euro+postage. ;) Also people (including myself) wait until they can order more from one seller or indeed until it's cheaper.
  • kroko over 5 years ago


    wiz_of_oz
    It's easier to click want than to pay 15euro+postage. ;) Also people (including myself) wait until they can order more from one seller or indeed until it's cheaper.


    Well that's indeed a good answer.. never thought about that !
    Thanks Oz !
  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago

    wiz_of_oz edité over 5 years ago
    kroko
    kroko
    10 minutes ago

    wiz_of_oz
    It's easier to click want than to pay 15euro+postage. ;) Also people (including myself) wait until they can order more from one seller or indeed until it's cheaper.

    Well that's indeed a good answer.. never thought about that !
    Thanks Oz !


    You're welcome. People also sleep on it veeeerrrry long sometimes I think or just have such very long wantlists that they have to be indeed millionairs (like hysteric said) to buy everything what's on there. Purposes like simply remembering that you want this record (or even just mp3/wav....) come to mind too.
  • housesweethauss over 5 years ago

    latscho
    I am so glad with "Big Ben Tribe" coming up on Dark Entries!

    same about Victrola
    but anyway I wish Minimal Wave or VOD or somebody released LP with unreleased and compilation stuff..
  • hysteric over 5 years ago

    wiz_of_oz
    People also sleep on it veeeerrrry long sometimes I think or just have such very long wantlists that they have to be indeed millionairs (like hysteric said) to buy everything what's on there. Purposes like simply remembering that you want this record (or even just mp3/wav....) come to mind too.

    It's exactly the same for me.. my wantlist is more than 4000 items
    Often I add something just because the cover or packaging is interesting.

    housesweethauss
    but anyway I wish Minimal Wave or VOD or somebody released LP with unreleased and compilation stuff..

    yeah I'm hoping this tape may appear in the future: http://www.discogs.com/Victrola-1982-1983/release/4158274
    The owner of darkentries added it to discogs, so there is hope!
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    latscho edité over 5 years ago
    housesweethauss
    same about Victrola
    but anyway I wish Minimal Wave or VOD or somebody released LP with unreleased and compilation stuff..


    I am no fan of LP or compilation when it comes to Italo-Disco.

    If Minimal Wave would again release some Italo songs, that would be wonderful.
    They are true masters of mastering and restoring, I would say the best in the game.
    I always wonder how they can make an original 80s demo tape recording sound so great on vinyl!
    You can often play it in a club along with electro/techno records, with no big difference in sound-quality.
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    kroko
    D. Carred - I Want To Know The World Reissue


    I have made a mix with "Rambles - I'll Go Where I Like To Go"...
    But all my friends who listened to it said, this song sounded horrible, like a very old and wasted record. I don't give a damn, because I like this song so much :)

    But can anyone compare it to the original Rambles...? Many thanks in advance for any detail Information.

    (btw. the other songs " I Want To Know The World " & "You'll be a Winner" are PERFECT :)

  • zolono over 5 years ago

    wiz_of_oz
    Also people (including myself) wait until they can order more from one seller or indeed until it's cheaper.

    I have folder in "bookmark manager" google chrom for every good seller on discogs.
    I check them every day.
    I see interesting items and add link to folder of this seller.
    And when i see good amount 7" 1-5 (categoria oltre 250 grammi fino a 350 grammi ) or 6-13 (categoria oltre 350 grammi fino a 1000 grammi ) i order all together))
  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago

    latscho
    If Minimal Wave would again release some Italo songs, that would be wonderful.
    They are true masters of mastering and restoring,


    You really think so? I have some Minimal Wave Records that don't sound so good like no mastering at all and just simply taken from a good copy of the record. Dark Entries are doing a much better job at this I'd say.
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    Both labels are on Top.
    I have more releases from Minimal Wave than from Dark Entries.
    But of course the source material can be very different, and some tracks are better than others. Which one for example do you think sound not good?

  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago

    The Circuit 7 LP (like directly from cassette), The Lost Tapes, The Found Tapes and I think more. I even remember not buying Futurisk - Player Piano because of the bad mastering. Plus the fact that the records were lying in the shops for like 25euro (!) I think a way much better job could be done. It may have some kinda charm to sound like the tracks as on cassette maybe but if you put some more effort in the mastering a much better job could be done. As proved by labels like Dark Entries.
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    They are more expensive in comparision to other labels, but I think they are worth every penny. Ok, some of the tracks on the compilations are better some less.
    The Circiut 7 sounds perfect to my ears... now playing "Russian Roulette" and "Eastern Dream"... and the green vinyl looks very nice, too. But I can't compare to original record or tape. I don't know. What is important to me: The record must bring FUN! And it does it to me.
  • wiz_of_oz over 5 years ago

    They bring fun cause the music is good which is more important than the mastering. They could bring that bit of extra fun with better mastering.
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    Nothing is perfect. I like records where you can see, they are made with an effort,
    as good as possible in a way. And a solid pressing with good grooves, that are made for playing. Otherwise it's better to produce mp3, cd or nothing.
  • ipoerner over 5 years ago

    ipoerner edité over 5 years ago
    Re: Big Ben Tribe / Victrola

    That's definitely great news as both records deserve to be listened to and made available again! I find it frustrating though that there's often contradictory information on the release schedule. In this particular case, Discogs says it's Dec. 12th, Dark Entries says it's gonna be 2014, and according to Discogs some people already owned their copy as early as November 2013.

    I mean, I can imagine that it must be really hard to set an exact release date with all the stuff that an independent label owner is not in control of vs. start marketing soon enough so that a record still gets all the attention it deserves.

    But as a customer, it's kind of a pain because with those limited quantities nowadays, you must act very quick and basically check Facebook or the blog every day for news.

    Maybe Dark Entries is not the perfect example, because I have the feeling they usually press in higher quantities than others. But I'm sure some people here would agree that taking one or two weeks off the internet nowadays usually means you might miss a couple of deals, which is sad.
  • ipoerner over 5 years ago

    ipoerner edité over 5 years ago
    Re: Minimal Wave

    I personally find the quality of the pressings to be high quality.

    Now I wouldn't consider myself to be an audiophile, and my setup at home doesn't allow to make a profound statement on the issue. BUT: I usually hear the difference as soon as I play a record in a club or at another venue with a powerful sound system, and none of the Minimal Wave recordings that I have failed in this regard so far.

    I'm kinda biased though; I just really love their corporate design :-) And yes, they are more expensive. But please consider that this is a label operating from overseas, too.
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    ipoerner
    But as a customer, it's kind of a pain because with those limited quantities nowadays, you must act very quick...

    No pain with Big Ben Tribe. It is made to make everyone lucky all around the globe.
  • ipoerner over 5 years ago

    latscho
    No pain with Big Ben Tribe. It is made to make everyone lucky all around the globe.


    Awesome! Do you know whether it's going to be released in 2013 still?

    Ingmar
  • Disco_Segreta over 5 years ago

  • latscho over 5 years ago

    Do you need a christmas present?
    I stay calm and keep patiently waiting... safe in the knowledge that I will spin this record on my turntable soon :)
  • juancalia over 5 years ago

    Info from Dark Entries' Facebook-page:
    "The first of many Italo Disco 12"s in the Dark Entries Editions series is Big Ben Tribe "Tarzan Loves The Summer Nights" from Italy 1984!"

    "the release date is January 7, 2014"

    ipoerner
    Awesome! Do you know whether it's going to be released in 2013 still?

    Ingmar

  • Impressions_sonores over 5 years ago


    juancalia
    The first of many Italo Disco 12"s in the Dark Entries Editions series

    !!!
  • juancalia over 5 years ago

    There seem to be a couple of labels and persons making represses of italo records...

    I have been wondering what are their interests to make a repress? Do they look how many have it in their wantlist? Do they make it just because there is an opportunity... they have the right contacts? Do they just want to repress some obscure gem to be more available... maybe not caring about the copyrights? Are we going to get any represses anymore when every dancefloor friendly italo has been repressed?
  • ipoerner over 5 years ago

    juancalia
    I have been wondering what are their interests to make a repress?


    I think the obvious answer is: all of the above.

    And for the ladies, of course :-)
  • latscho over 5 years ago

    latscho edité over 5 years ago
    In my opinion it is a noble mission to safe Italo music with reprints/reissues.
    I am sooooooo happy that there is a new company (outside of the stagnant and limited italo-world) which takes Italo music on board! It is the best thing that could have happened to the music!
    Now I can relax and see what happens in the future...
  • gabiccemare over 5 years ago

  • casanova.action over 5 years ago

    wiz_of_oz
    Repress of Massimo Vita - Jenny (Bordello A Parigi/Moustache) of 150pieces sold out in 16 hours. Is this the new selling-strategy of italorepresses?

    I had no rather fast information about this repress, thus not time to give my order before this 16 hours , now I understand why !
    http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?release_id=5096748&ev=rb

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