• Staff 71

    Weetzie over 4 years ago

    Weetzie edited 5 months ago
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  • dead_parrot over 4 years ago

    Submission / to submit, how to translate this?
    XXX which you submitted = XXX que vous avez créé, would this sound good? https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/discogs-i18n/translate/#fr/en/50450513
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 4 years ago

    Hmmm, I'm not sure, my knowledge of French is pretty basic. Maybe one of our other French translators could chime in...? raiseandfall, valparaiso, xavhan

    I also want to make sure I update our text formatting help document to include a new formatting code we just released:
    strikethrough: strikethrough

    What is the best French translation for strikethrough?
  • dead_parrot over 4 years ago

    Weetzie
    strikethrough: strikethrough
    Oh nice! but I suppose it won't work in submissions and we'll have to keep using Unicode? (which often looks messy: S̶t̶r̶i̶k̶e̶t̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶ )

    On topic barré is the most commonly used term I guess?
  • black_uriah over 4 years ago

    In Spanish the most common translation for "strikethrough" would be tachar or tachado.
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 4 years ago

    black_uriah
    In Spanish the most common translation for "strikethrough" would be tachar or tachado.

    Nice, thanks for chiming in here! I've updated the formatting document in Spanish.

    dead_parrot
    Oh nice! but I suppose it won't work in submissions and we'll have to keep using Unicode? (which often looks messy: S̶t̶r̶i̶k̶e̶t̶h̶r̶o̶u̶g̶h̶ )


    Correct. These formatting codes will only work in the Forum & Groups and on your Profile description. But I will mention that unicode strikethrough quirk to our development team.

    Thanks for the translation! I updated the formatting document in French.
  • koil over 4 years ago

    there is a mistake in the formatting document in French. :
    "Les codes ci-dessous sont destinés à vous aider à formatter vos posts dans les forums, notes et commentaires. " => formater with only one t
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 4 years ago

    koil
    there is a mistake in the formatting document in French.


    Thanks, I've updated the document! Help Documents aren't currently included in Transifex, so if you notice mistakes or the need to update one of them, you can always just ping me. :) Thanks!
  • DaTiGaPoWa over 4 years ago

    Hi guys,

    when you perform a bulk operation in the seller inventory, you receive this kind of email :
    "Your recent request to perform bulk actions on your inventory has been completed."

    In french, I received this today :
    "La demande récente d'action groupée sur votre est terminée."

    A word is missing here, it should be
    "La demande récente d'action groupée sur votre inventaire est terminée."
  • DaTiGaPoWa over 4 years ago

    Another translation error here :
    https://www.discogs.com/sell/orders?page=1&archived=N&status=All&limit=50
    if you have unarchived orders here, in french there's a button "Archives" on each order. It should be "Archiver".
  • DaTiGaPoWa over 4 years ago

    Petite question : au niveau des supports (cd, dvd, vinyl...) ils sont bien tous invariables en français ? IE on n’écrit pas en français CDs, DVDs...
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 4 years ago

    DaTiGaPoWa
    if you have unarchived orders here, in french there's a button "Archives" on each order. It should be "Archiver".


    I've updated this string to "Archiver":
    https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/discogs-i18n/translate/#fr/en/50450793?qt=Archive

    And I unreviewed the other translation so it can be fixed.

    Thanks for noticing these issues!
  • DaTiGaPoWa over 4 years ago

    @ Weetzie I have another one ;) If you are on the page to order a release (like this one : http://www.discogs.com/sell/release/1031719?ev=rci), there's different money. In french there's 2 problems :
    - „ is not visible for Yen in french
    - if the currency is not yours, under the price it's written "About xxx €" in english, but in french it's translated as "A propos xxx €" which is the correct litteral translation but really wrong in this context, should be "Environ xxx €"
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 4 years ago

    Thanks DaTiGaPoWa! Those don't look like they will be an easy fix from within Transifex, so I've added those to our list of language bugs.
  • valparaiso over 4 years ago

    How do you translate in French:

    - Marketplace (marché ?)
    - release
    - Guidelines

    Thank you.
  • DaTiGaPoWa over 4 years ago

    Salut valparaiso,

    d’aprĂšs les traductions dĂ©jĂ  validĂ©es par Discogs :
    - Marketplace = Marketplace
    - release = référence
    - Guidelines = guide ou rĂšgle suivant le contexte

    Si tu fais une recherche dans les traductions deja validées, tu peux voir les différentes traductions déja présente
  • valparaiso over 4 years ago

    DaTiGaPoWa
    Salut valparaiso,

    d’aprĂšs les traductions dĂ©jĂ  validĂ©es par Discogs :
    - Marketplace = Marketplace
    - release = référence
    - Guidelines = guide ou rĂšgle suivant le contexte

    Si tu fais une recherche dans les traductions deja validées, tu peux voir les différentes traductions déja présente

    Merci DaTiGaPoWa.
    Je vais donc apporter quelques corrections à mon travail. J'ai pas mal avancé aujourd'hui, j'espÚre qu'on aura bientÎt terminé.
  • DaTiGaPoWa over 4 years ago

    on en est a 99% la, il reste que 9 phrases a traduire dans en. Les 3 restantes dans en_js sont a analyser par Weetzie car ce sont des mots tout seul provenant de l'interface d'admin. J'essaye de valider un max de vos traduction ;)
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 4 years ago

    Wow, so close! Thanks for helping review translations, DaTiGaPoWa! I'll make sure that we sync with Transifex tomorrow, so that all of the new translations will be added to the site. I have a meeting set with our development team on Tuesday to resolve the three strings that I believe are admin facing (and a few other of the marked issues). If you want, you are welcome to add "best guess" translations for those strings, as they shouldn't be visible to anyone but Discogs staff anyway. Thanks for all the help with translations, everyone!
  • DaTiGaPoWa over 4 years ago

    Weetzie
    If you want, you are welcome to add "best guess" translations for those strings


    It's done ;)
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 4 years ago

    DaTiGaPoWa
    It's done ;)


    Nice! Wow, I can't believe French made it to 100% so quickly!

    I just chatted with our development team, and we will sync with Transifex on Tuesday. Hopefully that will give us time to sort out the remaining issues before syncing.

    Awesome work everyone!
  • no_noise_reduction over 4 years ago

    Congrats to the French team :-)
  • DaTiGaPoWa over 4 years ago

    Salut tout le monde, quelques nouvelles phrases a traduire sont apparues dans Transifex. J'en ai fait quelques unes, il en reste 20. Motivés ? faites moi signe quand c'est bon que je les valide.
  • koil over 4 years ago

    Comment trouve t-on la page oĂč se trouve la phrase Ă  traduire dans le site de discogs, le contexte aiderait pour faire la meilleure traduction?
  • koil over 4 years ago

    How to make a correction when we find a mistake?
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 4 years ago

    koil
    How to make a correction when we find a mistake?


    If you notice a string that needs to be corrected, you can mark it as an issue in Transifex. I'll then receive a notification and I can mark it as unreviewed, so it can be updated.

    http://www.discogs.com/help/doc/translate#correction
  • DaTiGaPoWa over 4 years ago

    I've updated some translations that where already reviewed because there was some context errors. I've marked updated translations as issue but now I wonder if it's useful to mark it as issue because if you update frequently the french translation files, it's maybe not needed ;)
    Weetzie tell me what you prefer
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 4 years ago

    DaTiGaPoWa, thanks for updating those translations! As long as you are able to update the translation, then you don't need to mark it as an issue. Once the translation is replaced and marked as reviewed, it will automatically be added to the site within a week. We sync with Transifex weekly, so you will notice the updated translations live on the site within a week, and you will also notice that each week there will be a few new untranslated strings added to Transifex.

    For translators that need to make a change, but are unable to, then marking the string as an issue is best. I then receive a notification and can assist.

    Thanks everyone for all the help keeping translations up to date!
  • Adamsprod over 4 years ago

    dead_parrot
    Submission / to submit, how to translate this?
    XXX which you submitted = XXX que vous avez créé, would this sound good? https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/discogs-i18n/translate/#fr/en/50450513


    You can say 'soumettre'
    XXX que vous avez créé (create) would be literally better with "soumis" (que vous avez soumis)
  • valparaiso over 4 years ago

    I've just finished to translate a new batch, need review.
  • pianoman74 over 4 years ago

    pianoman74 edited over 4 years ago
    DaTiGaPoWa
    Petite question : au niveau des supports (cd, dvd, vinyl...) ils sont bien tous invariables en français ? IE on n’écrit pas en français CDs, DVDs...

    C'est vrai. On dit les CD, les DVD ... et ... (Ă  fois) les disques.

    Alors qu'il y a un systÚme assez compliqué parmi les collecteurs francophones vinyl...

    Avec les disques vinyl, on dĂ©nomme leur vitesse, donc 33T / 45T (comme font les Italiens aussi, 45 giri etc.). Au pluriel, invariable de la mĂȘme façon (les 33T, les 45T...).
    Mais il n'est pas l'optimum des solutions du tout...car chaque fois quand on lit 'un 33T', on ne sait que rarement s'il s'agit d'un album entier (LP) ou d'un disque maxi 33T dont les deux possĂšdent un diamĂštre pareil (12 pouces).
  • Adamsprod over 4 years ago

    [quote=pianoman74][/quote]

    Perso je dis 4 CDs et je ne pense pas que ce soit péjoratif.
  • DaTiGaPoWa over 4 years ago

    valparaiso
    I've just finished to translate a new batch, need review.

    J'ai validé toutes les traductions, plus rien en attente :) Si vous trouvez des incohérences de traduction sur le site, n'hesitez pas a le faire savoir ici.
    ---------------------------------------------
    All translations reviewed :) If you find some weird translations across the site, we can discuss it here.
  • valparaiso over 4 years ago

    DaTiGaPoWa
    All translations reviewed

    Thank you DaTiGaPoWa!

    @ Weetzie: I think we are ready now for the translation of Guidelines. Is is scheduled soon? Can't wait.

  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 4 years ago

    valparaiso
    I think we are ready now for the translation of Guidelines. Is is scheduled soon?


    Thanks for being so on top of the French translations! It's so great to have enthusiastic community translators!

    I've been thinking about how to approach translating the Database Guidelines, and I think it should be considered in three stages:

    1. The inline help on the submission form (Add Release) page should be translated first. Currently this text isn't part of the PO file in Transifex, but I have a story in to get the code updated, so this text is translatable. I'm hoping that we can update this code within the next couple of weeks, so hopefully you should see these strings in Transifex within a month.

    (Also, just FYI: one of our developers is currently working on all of the strings that are currently marked as issues in Transifex, most of those strings need to be updated in the codebase.)

    2. Next we should translate the Quick Start Guide. The way that help documents are currently handled on the site is different from other text - it will likely need to be added to Transifex as a different translation file, rather than just added into the other PO files. I think the Quick Start Guide is a good place to start the Guidelines translation effort because it provides a broad overview of how to submit without getting too technical. As the exact meaning of the Database Guidelines are constantly debated in English, we are concerned that adding translations will end up adding even more confusion, so we want to proceed in a specific and thoughful way.

    3. Translate the Database Guidelines! This will need to be discussed with nik further, to be sure we are all in agreement about how/when to pursue this. As I stated previously, there is definitely some uncertainly about how to best move forward with this - we don't want to add translations that end up adding more confusion and creating more database submission disputes. In other words, we love the idea of having the Database Guidelines available in more languages, but we want to be sure we are prepared, and pursue it in a way that will help our community rather than complicate the submission process.

    Feel free to chime in if you have ideas or suggestions about how to best facilitate this process, but be assured that Step 1 is underway and we are actively discussing Step 2 and 3.

    Thanks again for all of your work adding and checking translations! :)
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 3 years ago

    Hello French translators!

    We've been syncing with Transifex every Thursday, but we will be syncing three times this week in an attempt to get as many translations live as possible. There are some new strings for an upcoming Discogs Labs beta test you'll be hearing more about soon, as well as some last minute VAT updates. If you have time, check out the new and untranslated strings, and chip in a few translations: https://www.transifex.com/discogs-1/discogs-i18n/dashboard/

    You might want to take advantage of the Transifex Translation Memory as I noticed that many of the new strings are actually 100% matches with past translations.

    As always, let me know if you have any questions! Thanks for all of your help!
  • DaTiGaPoWa over 3 years ago

    DaTiGaPoWa edited over 3 years ago
    Salut les amis,

    chekobero, koil, laserta, Smukkie, TheComebackKid, amyomum, chaz1975, dead_parrot, dekkra, dimn, enparfaitetat, knowndwarf, likeavirgil, p0lise, raiseandfall, romainbriand, valparaiso, xavhan, il y a une centaine de traductions restantes en ce moment, quelqu'un serait chaud pour me filer un coup de main ?
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 3 years ago

    Hi all,

    I just noticed that the French version of our Grading document is missing the "Generic" grading.
    https://www.discogs.com/help/doc/mp-grading?locale=fr

    Here is the English explanation of "Generic" grading:

    Within the context of grading items in the Discogs Marketplace, the term "generic" refers to a type of sleeve that is not specific to the release. A generic sleeve is either a plain sleeve or a company sleeve with standard company artwork. A sleeve that is graded as "generic" needs no further grading, as a generic sleeve generally adds little value to the item and can be easily replaced. Sellers can further specify a generic sleeve's condition in the “Item condition comment” field if needed. A seller can also note if the sleeve is a company sleeve in the “Item condition comment” field.

    Here is our attempt to translate it:

    Dans le contexte du classement des Ă©lĂ©ments dans le marchĂ© Discogs, le terme "gĂ©nĂ©rique" fait rĂ©fĂ©rence Ă  un type de pochette de disque qui n'est pas spĂ©cifique Ă  la libĂ©ration. Une pochette gĂ©nĂ©rique est soit un pochette ordinaire ou une sociĂ©tĂ© pochette avec oeuvres d'art standard de la sociĂ©tĂ©. Une pochette qui est classĂ© comme "gĂ©nĂ©rique" n'a pas besoin d'autres titrant, comme un pochette gĂ©nĂ©rique gĂ©nĂ©ralement ajoute peu de valeur pour l'Ă©lĂ©ment et peuvent ĂȘtre facilement remplacĂ©s. Les vendeurs peuvent prĂ©ciser une condition du pochette gĂ©nĂ©rique dans le "point condition commentaire" domaine si nĂ©cessaire. Un vendeur peut Ă©galement noter si le pochette est une sociĂ©tĂ© pochette de disque dans le "point condition commentaire" sur le terrain.

    We have a few Discogs staff members that speak limited French, but no one on staff that speaks French as their primary language, so I wanted to check in to see if that looks OK before adding it. Any feedback? Let me know if you would change something. Thanks!
  • koil over 3 years ago

    Hi Weetzie, here is a better translation :

    Dans le contexte du niveau de qualitĂ© des articles dans la Marketplace Discogs, le terme "gĂ©nĂ©rique" fait rĂ©fĂ©rence Ă  un type de pochette de disque qui n'est pas spĂ©cifique Ă  la RĂ©fĂ©rence. Une pochette gĂ©nĂ©rique est soit une pochette ordinaire soit une pochette du label avec son logo standard. Une pochette qui est classĂ©e comme "gĂ©nĂ©rique" n'a pas besoin d'autres indications sur son Ă©tat Ă©tant donnĂ©e qu'une pochette gĂ©nĂ©rique ajoute gĂ©nĂ©ralement peu de valeur Ă  la RĂ©fĂ©rence et peut ĂȘtre facilement remplacĂ©e. Les vendeurs peuvent en outre prĂ©ciser la prĂ©sence d'une pochette gĂ©nĂ©rique dans le champ "commentaire sur la condition de l'article" si nĂ©cessaire. Un vendeur peut Ă©galement noter si la pochette est une pochette de label gĂ©nĂ©rique dans le champ "commentaire sur la condition de l'article".
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 3 years ago

    Thanks, koil! You are awesome, thank you so much!!!
  • evilny0 over 3 years ago

    Hello,

    J'ai traduit ce qui ne l'Ă©tait pas encore. J'ai aussi fait des requĂȘtes pour unifier les traductions de "Terms of Service" et "Privacy Policy", qui n'Ă©taient pas identiques partout.
    ---
    I translated remaining untranslated strings. I also opened issues to unify translations for "Terms of Service" and "Privacy Policy" which were not translated the same way everywhere.
  • evilny0 over 3 years ago

    Bon. Donc, j'ai l'intention de traduire de façon identique "Terms of Service" et "Privacy Policy" partout. Je suggÚre de traduire :
    - "Privacy Policy" par "Politique de Confidentialité".
    - "Terms of Service" par "Conditions d'utilisation".
    - Sauf sur la page ToS elle-mĂȘme (qui n'est pas sur Transifex de toutes façons si j'ai bien compris), qui parlera des "Conditions GĂ©nĂ©rales d'Utilisation", ou tout autre dĂ©nomination plus complĂšte.

    Donc, exit les "Conditions générales d'utilisation", les "Conditions générales", les "Termes du Service", ... dans toutes les autres pages, pour rester consistant.

    Ca semble cohérent à tout le monde ?
  • koil over 3 years ago

    J'ai fais les corrections, n'hésites pas si tu en vois d'autres
  • evilny0 over 3 years ago

    Merci, je ferais une passe pour voir si je constate d'autres occurrences.
  • evilny0 over 3 years ago

    J'ai fait une passe rapide, j'ai ouvert des problĂšmes sur les chaĂźnes en question.
  • koil over 3 years ago

    il faudrait uniformiser la traduction de "Submission Guidelines", il n'y en a pas une pareille. Une idée?
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 3 years ago

    koil
    il faudrait uniformiser la traduction de "Submission Guidelines", il n'y en a pas une pareille. Une idée?


    Hi! I don't have any translation ideas, but once a decision is made, perhaps it would be useful to add it to the French Transifex Glossary: https://www.transifex.com/discogs-1/discogs-i18n/glossary/fr/?page=3

    That way whenever one of the Glossary words appears in a string, the standard translation for that term will appear under the Glossary tab as a suggestion.

    Juste une idée. Merci!
  • evilny0 over 3 years ago

    Hum... on pourrait traduire "Guidelines" par "Recommandations" ? Donc "Recommandations sur les Propositions". Mais c'est peut-ĂȘtre pas assez fort comme mot, donc peut-ĂȘtre "Guide des Propositions" (ou "Guide sur les Propositions").

    Par ailleurs, 2 suggestions :

    - Titre -> Piste (pour Track Ă©videmment, pas pour Title).
    - Proposition -> Contribution. J'imagine que le sujet a déjà été discuté vu que c'est un peu l'élément central de Discogs, mais je trouve ça bizarre "Proposition" :D.

    Vous en pensez quoi ?

    J'ai aussi revu rapidement les traductions dans la section CAS, il y avait de petites incohérences (confusion login/logout notamment). Si quelqu'un veut vérifier :).
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie over 2 years ago

    Hi all, you'll notice that there are a lot of new untranslated strings that were just added to Transifex. Styles and Genres are finally translatable! Feel free to discuss here or in one of the general Database forums if you get stuck on how to translate a style, or if a style should even be translated.
    Thanks for all of your help!
  • MountieMelodies over 2 years ago

    Salut! As some of you may have noticed, we recently rolled out the ability to change a username! We took a crack at writing a help document in French. Do you all have suggestions for us on where we can improve it? (see https://www.discogs.com/help/doc/change-username?locale=fr for proper formatting) Merci!

    Modification de votre nom d'utilisateur est possible Ă  partir de vos paramĂštres de profil.

    Vous pouvez modifier votre nom d'utilisateur un total de 3 fois. Pour ce faire, veuillez suivre les Ă©tapes suivantes :

    Assurez-vous que vous ĂȘtes connectĂ© Ă  votre compte. AccĂ©dez Ă  votre page ParamĂštres.

    Faites défiler vers le bas jusqu'à proximité du bas de la page, sous la fonctionnalité de modification de mot de passe.

    En vertu de la modification de nom d'utilisateur section, tapez votre dĂ©sirĂ© nouveau nom d'utilisateur dans le nouveau nom d'utilisateur section. Gardez Ă  l'esprit qu'un nom d'utilisateur doit comporter au moins de 3 caractĂšres, mais pas plus de 20. Les noms d'utilisateur ne doit pas ĂȘtre dĂ©jĂ  en cours d'utilisation, ou ne l'ont jamais Ă©tĂ© utilisĂ©s. Les caractĂšres autorisĂ©s sont les lettres, les chiffres, le trait de soulignement (_), tiret (-) et point (.)

    Vous serez également invité à entrer votre mot de passe. Vous devez entrer votre mot de passe ici avant le changement du nom d'utilisateur seront couronnés de succÚs.

    Un email de confirmation vous sera envoyĂ© aprĂšs le changement se produit. C'est tout! Tous vos paramĂštres et donnĂ©es de compte restera le mĂȘme, et toutes les URL contenant votre nom d'utilisateur continuera Ă  fonctionner normalement.

    Veuillez noter que lorsque vous changez votre nom d'utilisateur, votre ancien nom d'utilisateur n'est plus disponible. Pas pour vous, pas pour quelqu'un d'autre. Alors assurez-vous que vous ĂȘtes d'accord pour dire adieu Ă  votre ancienne identitĂ© - vous ne pourrez plus revenir en arriĂšre!
  • LetsBoogie about 1 year ago

    LetsBoogie edited about 1 year ago
    Hi there, here are a couple comments about the french translation of the website:

    Some translations in the french language are too much "Googleish", and not really appropriate.
    I mean by that: some words used are not exactly the correct ones,
    as the meaning of a word can change depending on a certain context.

    A few examples:
    1-
    Original green button (in english): REGISTER
    Same green button (in french): ENREGISTRER

    Which is not 100% correct, the correct form of this verb would have been: S'ENREGISTRER...
    or yet another verb (which is according to me, better in this case): S'INSCRIRE.

    2-
    When you take a look at a user's profile page, sometimes it's mentionned:
    Submitted ... [a certain release]

    Well, the translation made in french was "Soumis ... [a certain release]"
    which is not correct. First mistake, is the fact a wrong tense is used.
    "A soumis" would have been correct, concerning the right tense.. but yet, the word
    "soumis" in french isn't 100% appropriate in this case.

    "A listé" or "A repertorié" would have been way much better.

    3-
    When a user removes their own comment, you can read on their profile page: posted a comment [in black color] that has since been deleted. over 2/3/4/5... years ago [in grey color]

    In french, you can read:
    A posté un commentaire [in black color] a été supprimé depuis. over 2/3/4... years ago [in grey color].

    First mistake: one french word is missing.
    The correct french sentence in grey color would have been: qui a été supprimé depuis.

    Second mistake: "over 2/3/4... years ago" has not been translated to french.

    1 hour ago = il y a 1 heure

    2...4...8...16...23 hours ago = il y a 2...4...8...16...23 heures

    ------------------

    1 day ago = il y a 1 jour

    2...5..10...29 days ago = il y a 2...5...10... 29 jours

    ------------------

    about 1..2...6...11 months ago = il y a environ 1...2...6... 11 mois.

    ------------------

    over 1 year ago = il y a plus de 1 an

    over 2...3...5...9...15 years ago = il y a plus de 2...3...5...9...15 ans.

    4-
    Translation missing for the "Helpful" button under a user's comment/review.
    The word "Utile" in french, in that case would be perfect.

    5-
    On the CIP page, translation made for "times in CIP" is "Temps sur le PFC", which is false.
    Here, times has been translated by "temps", but in this context, "temps" in french means "for how long" the user has been on CIP...
    Whereas we want to know "how many times" the user's been on CIP.
    Correct translation would be: "Nombre de fois sur le PFC" .
    Also the translation date of CIP hasnt been made "about 12 hours ago... 4 days ago.. over 9 years ago..." (see above for date translations, on Point 4).

    Didn't notice anything else wrong, about the french translation so far...

    An average french user will easily understand the meaning of the current french words of course, but let's just say they're not 100% appropriate, in this context.

    Thanks for reading, hope some changes will be done about it. :)
  • ButtShark about 1 year ago

    MountieMelodies
    Do you all have suggestions for us on where we can improve it?

    To elaborate on your question and what has been mentioned DeepSwamp, I'd like to give you my opinion as a professional EN-FR translator and French proof-reader. A recurring issue with French translations here is that they sound mostly computer-generated, and lack proofreading.

    For instance, MountieMelodies, I read your draft for that help document back when you first submitted it, but I didn't have the courage to suggest improvements, because there is not a single paragraph there that a French speaker would consider correct. And suggesting numerous corrections through a forum is tedious.

    Working though Transifex isn't a solution, since faulty translations are regularly approved by moderators (by the way, it's rather unsettling to see they're called "mainteneurs du projet" on this website dedicated to localisation, because there is no such word as "mainteneur" in French...). Of course, volunteers cannot be expected to provide 100% accurate translations, but the current level of inaccuracy of the French version of Discogs is alarming.

    On that topic, I beg to differ with DeepSwamp's last remark, because in the case of the "enregistrer / s'inscrire" mistake, a French speaker may not understand at all what is expected of them.
    Even the French support page on grading an item's condition (https://support.discogs.com/fr/support/solutions/articles/13000014664-%C3%89valuer-la-qualit%C3%A9-d-un-article) needs to be revised: even though the article is mostly understandable, a topic as sensitive as item grading for the Discogs Marketplace should be flawlessly translated in order to avoid trouble. I can easily imagine a dissatisfied French-speaking buyer blaming communication and understanding issues on the quality of the current translations.

    A solution to these issues would be to have the French segments currently in use directly revised by a qualified EN-FR translator. But is there even a way of doing this efficiently?
  • MountieMelodies about 1 year ago

    Hi ButtShark and LetsBoogie, thank you for your insightful and detailed posts here. There is certainly a lot to be done when it comes to translations on Discogs, and regardless of the translation method there will always be challenges and inconsistencies in the results. Of course, that doesn't mean that there isn't more that we can do to increase the quality of the website for our non-English users.

    ButtShark, you've mentioned Transifex so I assume you know how we currently translate our website and the processes involved. DeepSwamp, you make mention of specific examples where translations could be improved, and I'm not certain in reading your message if you've been involved with Transifex before. If not, I'd guide you to this document:

    https://support.discogs.com/solution/articles/13000014280

    This document explains what Transifex is and how our users make use of it to translate the website. With this, and of course if necessary with further communication with myself, you could certainly track down the incorrect translations and offer better alternatives. As we do not have a French native working for Discogs, we do not notice these mistakes as easily as you might! So we very much appreciate anyone coming to us with comments on how to better our translations.

    ButtShark, you speak to some legitimate limitations of Transifex, ones that we are continually encountering. Certainly, the only way to truly be consistent and error-free when translating is to make use of a small group or a single translator who speaks the language natively. Due to the sheer size of Discogs and the ever changing content (especially in the Database), I'm sure you'd understand the limitations we currently have here as a company. For the time being, Transifex offers us a good middle ground for being able to offer a wide range of translations from a group of French natives who are also users of our site. As Discogs continues to grow, I know that Weetzie and I hope we continue to invest in the internationalization and localization of our website, as our Database and Marketplace are expanding more and more into non-English regions. Having dedicated users like you both who bring these issues to us helps us in making a case on our end as well, so when hitting limitations within the Transifex platform, please do keep us informed.

    I realize this is a long message with perhaps not a whole lot of answers. To sum it up, where possible, we appreciate any of you taking the time to correct errors within Transifex. When limitations are hit, or when issues are broader in scope, please let myself or Weetzie know. We'll guide you where possible, or make note of the issue for potential future development. Merci!
  • LetsBoogie about 1 year ago

    Thanks, will have a look on that Transifex program and see how it works, this way I can improve some words that are either wrong or missing. :-)
  • LetsBoogie about 1 year ago

    Made a request 3 days ago to join the French discogs team on Transifex, but it seems it's not approved.... ?
  • MountieMelodies about 1 year ago

    Ah, LetsBoogie, that's because I usually rely on notifications from https://www.discogs.com/group/thread/468254?page=3 to let me know if a user has requested to join. But seeing as we're chatting here, I've gone ahead an added you now. Welcome to the team! Please let me know if you need any resources or help getting started and I'll be happy to assist.
  • LetsBoogie about 1 year ago

    LetsBoogie edited about 1 year ago
    Thank you! :)
    Just added 30 missing translations, will wait for them to be approved or even updated/improved by other french speaker contributors (will add more once I’ll be out of work).

    Edit: I noticed that it seems I can’t change the existing (but unappropriate) translations. How can I bring new translations (mostly what I’ve mentionned in my long post above) to the ones that are already approved ?

    Edit2: correct me if I’m wrong, I think I found the correct way to submit a new translation for the existing words: «suggestions». Right ? :-)
    Made a few, especially on the word «Register» that wasn’t really well translated.
  • MountieMelodies about 1 year ago

    LetsBoogie Yep, you've got it! I can see the suggestions you've made. For clarity, here is the part of our document that describes what to do if you notice an incorrect translation:

    https://support.discogs.com/solution/articles/13000014280#correction

    You may also find this article helpful, from the Transifex website:

    https://docs.transifex.com/translation/translating-with-the-web-editor

    Hope this helps! Thanks for lending a hand to translating the site, we really do appreciate it.
  • Staff 31

    babasnae about 1 year ago

    Hey all,

    We're currently sending our help documents over to Transifex to get them translated into German, Italian, French, Japanese and Spanish.

    We just got started with one article -"How Do I Activate My Account?" - and are still missing the French one.

    Would you mind helping with the translation of this one?

    Here the direct link:

    French -https://www.transifex.com/discogs-1/translation-help-centre-documentation/viewstrings/#fr/HTML-articles-360001578514/141575987?q=translated%3Ano

    Thanks a lot for all your help! It's very much appreciated!
  • LetsBoogie about 1 year ago

    babasnae
    Hey all,

    We're currently sending our help documents over to Transifex to get them translated into German, Italian, French, Japanese and Spanish.

    We just got started with one article -"How Do I Activate My Account?" - and are still missing the French one.

    Would you mind helping with the translation of this one?

    Here the direct link:

    French -https://www.transifex.com/discogs-1/translation-help-centre-documentation/viewstrings/#fr/HTML-articles-360001578514/141575987?q=translated%3Ano

    Thanks a lot for all your help! It's very much appreciated!


    Hi there,
    Just made a request to join the "french team" from transifex, so I can translate some missing articles.
    I made many translations months ago for the french language, but it seems I can't remember my transifex username anymore.
    I'll wait for the my joining request to be approved. Then I'll be able to translate what's missing.

    L.
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 5 months ago

    Hello French Translation Team!

    I'm going to make some improvements for our Community Translation Team in the coming months, and I would love to hear your feedback in this survey:
    Discogs Community Translation Team Survey

    The survey is only a few questions long and should only take a few minutes to complete. I'll use the feedback to help guide improvements to the translator onboarding process. The survey is anonymous, so feel free to pass along any and all feedback. Thank you!!! :)
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 3 months ago

    Hey all, just a quick update:

    There are many places on the website where we "recycle" translations for certain words or phrases. For example, we don't ask you to translate "Forum" for each place it's used on the website - we simply use the same translation across the website. However, occasionally that doesn't work. There are several English homonyms (words that have the same spelling, but different meaning) for which we incorrectly reuse the same translation across the website.

    One example, which has been an issue for a long time, is "Credits". On Discogs, "Credits" might relate to Artist "Credits" or Marketplace "Credits". Obviously, in most languages, two different translations are needed. But until recently we were using the same translation for both. But, as of today, we have a better way of separating out these strings! Wahooo!

    ‱ Here is the string that relates to Marketplace Billing "Credits".

    ‱ Here is the string that relates to Artist "Credits".

    Will someone please check those two strings to make sure they are translated correctly? The Transifex "Translation Memory" filled in a translation for the new string already, but I'm not certain it's correct.

    And please let me know if you run across other strings that are incorrectly using the same translation in multiple places. Thanks all!
  • LetsBoogie 3 months ago

    Hi,
    Luckily here, the french language also uses "crédit" for both contexts and meanings.

    Examples:
    -Une somme de 20€ sera crĂ©ditĂ©e sur votre compte ("An amount of €20 will be credited on your account")

    -Cet artiste n'a pas été crédité sur ce disque ("This artist hasn't been credited on this record").

    On both examples, the same word can be used: "Crédit" ("Crédits" for plural).
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 3 months ago

    Awesome, thanks for checking and reviewing that translation, LetsBoogie! I know it's been problematic in German, but I'm glad to know this was never a problem with our French translations. :)
  • LetsBoogie 3 months ago

    Having some little troubles on 5 strings from the Discogs.com Localization project.
    https://www.transifex.com/discogs-1/discogs-i18n/translate/#fr/$/172294451?q=translated%3Ano

    3 strings are incomplete it seems, as if a word was cut:
    - "Merged 1%(count)s duplicate s"
    - "Migrate All s"
    - "Tracks belonging to multiple s will be migrated to the selected....."

    The letter "s" is the only one remaining from the original words which, I think, should have been "Tracks" & "Compositions".

    2 strings seem to contain the exact same sentence, even when I click the "[1]/[other]" buttons, which should allow me to switch between the "singular/plural" form of the sentence:

    - "Editing1 1%(editCount)s 1Recordings" ---> On this one, I should also be able to see: "Editing1 1%(editCount)s 1Recording" but instead, the same sentence appears, and the word "Recordings" is at its plural form on both sentences.

    - "Migrating1 1%(totalTracks)s 1Tracks" --> On this one, I should also be able to see: "Migrating1 1%(totalTracks)s 1Track" but instead, only the letter "s" was left ("Migrating1 1%(totalTracks)s 1s"), on the sentence that contains the singular form.

    Will translate this as soon as it's fixed! Thank you! :-)
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 3 months ago

    LetsBoogie
    3 strings are incomplete it seems, as if a word was cut:
    - "Merged 1%(count)s duplicate s"
    - "Migrate All s"
    - "Tracks belonging to multiple s will be migrated to the selected....."


    Yikes, I'll look into that ASAP. It looks to be like there must be an issue with the way that code was tagged. You are correct, I'm sure "s" is supposed to be preserved as a variable.

    And I'll also look into why those two strings aren't properly pluralized.

    Thanks so much for notifying me of these issues!
  • LetsBoogie 3 months ago

    LetsBoogie edited 3 months ago
    Sure thing, thank you.

    By the way, please could you redirect me to a specific string that I cannot find at all, it seems?
    It's the string that shows items for sale on releases & lists pages (unless those are two different strings... but still, both would need a little correction then), and that string shows like this: "3 for sale from $5" (in french it would be: "3 en vente Ă  partir de 5$").

    Then you must wonder, what's wrong with this string. Well there's a "space" missing in the french translation of that specific string. Consequence is that it does this on the releases/lists pages: https://i.ibb.co/9htZYZj/correction.jpg

    It's like if the english version displayed this: "3 for salefrom $5". Gotta fix it.

    Thx!
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 3 months ago

    LetsBoogie
    could you redirect me to a specific string that I cannot find at all, it seems?
    It's the string that shows items for sale on releases & lists pages (unless those are two different strings... but still, both would need a little correction then), and that string shows like this: "3 for sale from $5" (in french it would be: "3 en vente Ă  partir de 5$").


    Ohhh, thanks for noticing this. It looks like this was an issue in Spanish too.

    The problem was there is a space before the "from (price)" English string (which is nearly impossible to notice when translating).

    Here's the string: https://www.transifex.com/discogs-1/discogs-i18n/translate/#fr/$/81788354?q=tags%3Afrom_(price)

    I've corrected the translations to include a leading space. I *think* this should resolve the issue once those changes are synced. I'm pretty sure that string is part of a "macro" file that is used in several spots on the website.
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 3 months ago

    I also added string instructions for that string, so hopefully as we add more languages, translators will know to preserve that space.

    Thanks again for spending the time to track down translation improvements!
  • LetsBoogie 3 months ago

    Thx Weetzie! That seems to be this indeed... a space was missing BEFORE the translation. However, I re-corrected the translation you added on it, as you've put : "*price variable*Ă  partir de" ... but in the right translation, the price would come after. So I corrected it in: "Ă  partir de *price variable*" (I obviously left a space before the beginning of my translation this time, though).
  • DaTiGaPoWa 3 months ago

    Hi,

    I found a weird issue on translations, some strings have been validated for months (with too many commas, but it's not the point) and still appears in english on the french side :
    https://ibb.co/RBV7ybC

    Any idea ?
  • LetsBoogie 3 months ago

    Maybe that part of the translation hasn't been synced yet.
    And no, there ain't "too many commas"... Only one per string on those ones.
  • DaTiGaPoWa 3 months ago

    ok if you want, it's just because there's no comma on the sentences to translate and there are some in the translations, but maybe other people find the translation accurate.
    To go back to my question, as translations are synced pretty often, 3 month without syncing a string translated is pretty strange.
  • LetsBoogie 3 months ago

    Yes, actually the syntax structure isn't exactly the same in english than in french... that's why commas were added sometimes in french... to make the translation as close as the meaning of the english version.

    And for that sync... indeed 3 months is a bit long but someone in charge as Weetzie will bring an answer for that.
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 3 months ago

    LetsBoogie
    I re-corrected the translation you added


    Great! Thanks so much!
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 3 months ago

    DaTiGaPoWa
    as translations are synced pretty often, 3 month without syncing a string translated is pretty strange


    Hmmm, let me dig into this a little more. If the translation was reviewed, it should have been synced. We've synced several times in the last 3 months. We just synced yesterday. I'll look into this string today.

    Also, you might have noticed there are some major updates going on with the Discogs.com Localization resources. I'll post more info soon, but basically, it's an update to allow Reviewers the ability to trigger Transifex+Discogs syncs! In the future, any time a language gets to 100% translated & reviewed in the Discogs.com Localization project, a sync will be triggered. There will still be a slight delay before you see updated translations on the site, because the sync will create a Pull Request on GitHub that will need to be merged by a developer.

    I'll post a Transifex announcement soon with more information. :)
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 3 months ago

    Wahoo!

    DaTiGaPoWa, you triggered the very first automated Transifex sync! Thanks for completing those translations!
    The updated strings should be merged soon and then visible on the website.
  • DaTiGaPoWa 3 months ago

    DaTiGaPoWa edited 3 months ago
    If time permits, it's a pleasure to help :)
    I've found some bugs in the french interface, but it's not directly linked to the translations by the french team. Maybe more linked to the "recycled translations" has you mentionned some days ago, or some forgotten strings hard coded. Will try to report some tomorrow.
  • LetsBoogie 3 months ago

    DaTiGaPoWa Please only bring corrections to my reviewed translations if you notice a mistake on them. Cause I seen right now you made changes on some translations I made, and I had to un-do these changes as they're not correct, here are a few examples:

    String:
    "[Variable - Artist] Books at Discogs" (so the example would be : "Michael Jackson Books at Discogs").
    I've put this as a translation : "Livres [Variable - Artist] sur Discogs" (so the translation of the example would be : "Livres Michael Jackson sur Discogs") ... but instead you've reversed the variable and the "Books", which would have given a translation like this in french : "Michael Jackson Livres sur Discogs", which doesn't sound correct as this string is meant to mention a book related to a specific artist.

    Same thing with the "Films".string.

    Also this string:
    The uploader will then modify your inventory to make it match what's in the CSV.

    You've kept my translation but brought a tiny change: an "I", in capital letter on the word Inventory. This word is with a lower case in english, so let's keep it with a lower case in the french translation.

    Please only change my reviewed translations if you notice a syntax mistake, or conjugation/spelling mistake. Even though I do my best by trying to read what I write several times before submitting a translation, I may not notice a lil mistake sometimes.
    But for the rest, please keep it unchanged.

    Thanks! :-)
  • DaTiGaPoWa 3 months ago

    Hi,

    Here's a date problem in the seller feedback page :
    - In red, date in french
    - in orange, dates in english
  • DaTiGaPoWa 3 months ago

    And this one on the user settings page :
    the left menu is in english, but no corresponding string remains untranslated in french
  • LetsBoogie 3 months ago

    I think those parts of the site seem untranslated because those strings haven't been brought to transifex yet. For example, the button "helpful" under a comment/review on a release is also "helpful" even though you switch to the french version of the site... But it's cause that specific string hasn't been imported for translation on Transifex yet.
    They will, with time. :-)
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 3 months ago

    DaTiGaPoWa
    Here's a date problem in the seller feedback page


    Thanks!
    Yes, there are several known places on the website where translations are missing.
    I know that most date & timestamps are still untranslated. Hopefully, we can deal with that soon.

    And the untranslated Settings menu is high on our list of internationalization improvements needed. A Discogs developer is making their way through this long list of missing translations. So hopefully you'll notice some improvements soon.

    Some of them will be easy fixes that we'll update ASAP. And some of the areas that are missing translations are harder to pull into Transifex for various reasons. But we'll gradually try to "catch" them all. It's a challenge trying to properly internationalize a website as large as Discogs which has been around for over 19 years! :)
  • DaTiGaPoWa 3 months ago

    Thanks Weetzie for the link, I'll check inside before giving useless info, but it seems I've some that are not in this list ;)
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 3 months ago

    DaTiGaPoWa
    Thanks Weetzie for the link, I'll check inside before giving useless info, but it seems I've some that are not in this list ;)


    Yes, I'm sure I'm missing some. Yes, please let me know if you notice I'm missing an area, or you notice a problematic string. That would be very helpful. Thanks!
  • djcaesar9114 2 months ago

    djcaesar9114 edited 2 months ago
    [FRENCH BELOW] / [FRANÇAIS EN DESSOUS]

    Hi,
    I really don't know how to change translations in Discogs. One of them is misleading: "Payment pending". The explanation is simple: https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011094473-Why-Does-Discogs-Show-Payment-Pending-On-My-Order-
    But in French, it appears to say "En attente de paiement" (I don't have the French interface). This term is misleading and leads some sellers to update the order into "Payment pending" as soon as they have put the shipping costs, although they should leave "Invoice sent".
    Could it be possible to change "En attente de paiement" by "Paiement envoyé", or any other term preventing the buyer to forget to pay for an order?
    Thanks in advance.

    ------

    Bonjour,
    Je ne sais pas du tout comment changer certaines traductions dans Discogs. L'une d'elles est trompeuse: "Payment pending". L'explication est pourtant simple: https://support.discogs.com/hc/en-us/articles/360011094473-Why-Does-Discogs-Show-Payment-Pending-On-My-Order-
    Mais, en français, c'est actuellement traduit par "En attente de paiement" (je n'ai pas l'interface en français). Ce terme est équivoque et amÚne certains vendeurs à placer la commande en statut "Payment pending" dÚs qu'ils ont indiqué les frais d'envoi, alors qu'il s'agit de laisser "Invoice sent".
    Est-ce qu'il serait possible de changer "En attente de paiement" par "Paiement envoyé", ou tout autre terme qui permette à l'acheteur de ne pas oublier de payer une commande?
    Merci d'avance et bonne journée.
  • LetsBoogie 2 months ago

    LetsBoogie edited 2 months ago
    Hello/Bonsoir, djcaesar9114

    EN:
    In this specific case, it's said in the guidelines: "Once payment is sent from either source, the order status will update to Payment Pending". In other words, after the buyer has provided a payment, the status "payment pending" appears until the seller confirms they received it. I admit that "waiting for payment" can be tricky... it'll be more exact to put a closer translation of "payment pending" (implying: waitin for the seller to confirm thay they received the payment.... which sounds to me like even a closer translation). But no way to change this string from "payment pending", translated to "payment sent" in french... cause then the whole meaning of it would be changed. It can be done only if the original english string is changed first... So here, it's not exactly a translation mistake/error... but more like these words "payment pending", can seem a bit confusing since it appears AFTER the payment was provided.

    FR:
    Dans ce cas prĂ©cis, il est dit dans le guide d'utilisation: "Once payment is sent from either source, the order status will update to Payment Pending". En d'autres termes, aprĂšs que l'acheteur ait payĂ©, le statut "en attente de paiement" apparaĂźt, jusqu'Ă  ce que le vendeur confirme sa rĂ©ception. Je reconnais que "en attente de paiement" peut ĂȘtre assez trompeur... Il serait plus "juste" de mettre "paiement en attente" (sous entendant "en attente de confirmation de la part du vendeur... ce qui sonne pour moi comme une traduction plus proche). Mais impossible de totalement changer le sens de la phrase "payment pending" vers "paiement envoyĂ©", car du coup on part sur une autre traduction. Cela peut se faire Ă  condition que la phrase d'origine soit modifiĂ©e... donc ici c'est pas tant une erreur/soucis de traduction, mais bel et bien de la phrase d'origine qui peut porter Ă  confusion Ă©tant donnĂ© que ça apparaĂźt APRES rĂ©ception du paiement.

    Edit: I just checked the translation and it actually already shows as "paiement en attente", and not "en attente de paiement" .... So it's correct... I guess these corrected/retranslated strings haven't been synced on discogs yet.

    Edit 2: Just paid an item right now and after I paid it, this automatic status showed in french "paiement en attente" ... so it's actually already synced, and correct. Then I don't understand what's wrong ? please be more specific.
  • djcaesar9114 2 months ago

    EN-

    Almost every time with French sellers, as soon as they have indicated the shipping costs, they update the status to "Payment pending". They should leave "Invoice sent", and not manually set the status of the order to "Payment pending". I don't understand why Discogs allows the seller to put this status, in the first place, but that's not the question here.
    When a buyer has a lot of orders (like me, but I don't think I'm the only one), he checks all the orders with the "Invoice sent" to pay them, and considers the orders with the "Payment pending" status paid by him. Some French sellers consider that the "Payment pending" is when they expect the buyer to pay, so I think the French version should use less misleading words.
    I won't discuss here the terms used in the English version, but in the French one.

    FR-

    Quasiment à chaque fois avec les vendeurs français, dÚs qu'ils ont indiqué les frais d'envoi, ils actualisent le statut en "Payment pending" ("En attente de paiement", visiblement). Ils devraient pourtant laisser "Invoice sent" et pas changer manuellement le statut en "Payment pending". Je ne comprends pas pourquoi Discogs leur donne cette possibilité, d'ailleurs, mais là n'est pas la question.
    Quand un acheteur a beaucoup de commandes (comme moi, mais je ne suis pas le seul), il regarde toutes celles au statut "Invoice sent" pour les payer, et considÚre celles avec le statut "Payment pending" comme payées par lui. Certains vendeurs français considÚrent que "Payment pending" est quand ils s'attendent à ce que l'acheteur les paye, donc je pense que les termes employés dans la version française sont trompeurs.
    Je n'évoque pas ici les termes anglais, puisque je n'ai pas encore rencontré le problÚme, les statuts semblent compris.
  • LetsBoogie 2 months ago

    EN:
    Yes, I get your point. The easiest would have been to disable the option for sellers, this way they can't manually change the status to "payment pending" themselves...
    In this case, I'm going back to what you first said earlier... translating it by "Payment Sent" can solve this issue... cause I don't think there's any other way for a unique translation of "Payment Pending" to fit on both cases when this statut is updated manually by the seller AND when it's done automatically after a buyer pays their order.

    FR:
    Oui je comprends ce que vous voulez dire. Lle plus simple aurait Ă©tĂ© de dĂ©sactiver cette option pour les vendeurs de sorte Ă  ce qu'ils ne puissent plus changer ce statut manuellement eux-mĂȘmes...
    Dans ces cas-lĂ , je reviens Ă  ce que vous disiez... traduire "Paiement EnvoyĂ©" peut rĂ©soudre ce soucis... car il n'y a pas d'autres alternatives il semble, pour que la traduction convienne aussi bien dans le cas oĂč le statut est mis de maniĂšre manuelle par le vendeur que dans le cas oĂč il automatiquement mis par le site suite au paiement d'une commande par un acheteur.
  • djcaesar9114 2 months ago

    EN-
    How can we change things?

    FR-
    Comment peut-on changer les choses, selon vous?
  • LetsBoogie 2 months ago

    EN:
    I already made the necessary changes for this specific part of the website. Now we just need to wait for the next sync (can be in a few days or next month) for the changes to appear. Please if you notice anything else which may be confusing in the french language, write it down here and I'll fix it. Thx!

    FR:
    J'ai dĂ©jĂ  effectuĂ© les changements qu'il fallait pour cette partie prĂ©cise du site. Nous n'avons plus qu'Ă  attendre la prochaine synchronisation (cela peut ĂȘtre dans quelques jours ou le mois prochain) pour que les changements apparaissent. Si jamais vous trouvez d'autres parties du site qui peuvent prĂȘter Ă  confusion en français, Ă©crivez-les ici s'il vous plaĂźt et je les corrigerai. Merci!
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 2 months ago

    Thank you so much djcaesar9114 for notifying us of this issue!

    Honestly, that order status name is even confusing in English. There have been many conversations about changing the name or changing the functionality. Hopefully, the "Payment Sent" translation will be less confusing.

    Thanks, LetsBoogie, for making a quick update! I see you actually went through and updated all the strings that include "payment pending". Thank you so much for being so thorough!

    I've initiated a sync by getting the "messages.pot (master)" and "messages_js.pot (master)" resources to 100% translated in French. We generally don't merge code on Fridays, so likely the updates will be visible early next week.

    I forced a sync of the "messages_js.pot (master)" resource by adding a translation for those three problem strings: https://www.transifex.com/discogs-1/discogs-i18n/translate/#fr/messages-js-pot--master/173421640?q=tags%3Ai18n_issue
    Once the database team fixes those strings, they will be replaced anyway.

    One thing I noticed is that the "messages.pot (master)" resource was already at 100% translated & reviewed, so even though you had made some changes to some of those strings, it didn't trigger a re-sync of that file. I was able to trigger a resync by removing a translation, saving, and then readding the translation. In other words, a sync is only triggered when a resource gets to 100% translated & reviewed.

    Anyway, maybe that's more information than y'all care to know. :) I'll be adding a page on our Localization site soon that has more information about the new automated syncing set up, since all Transifex reviewers now have the power to trigger a sync.
  • djcaesar9114 2 months ago

    Thanks all for your answers.
    Merci à tous pour vos réponses.

    ;)
  • LetsBoogie 2 months ago

    Weetzie

    Can you please redirect me to a specific string that I can't find at all? It's a string that contains the word "to" only. The affiliated Discogs page is the shipping policies page for sellers. And to be more exact, the word "to" refers to a list of countries where the seller accepts to ship to. Here's a screenshot: https://i.ibb.co/GCTrGbj/4846846.jpg

    The french translation used on this one is "Ă " ... which is a right translation for this word BUT on this specific context ("to... + country/countries"), it isn't correct. The correct french translation for the english word "to" in this specific context is : "vers".

    Thank u!
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    Weetzie 2 months ago

    LetsBoogie
    Can you please redirect me to a specific string that I can't find at all? It's a string that contains the word "to" only. The affiliated Discogs page is the shipping policies page for sellers.


    This is the string: https://www.transifex.com/discogs-1/discogs-i18n/translate/#fr/$/50453652?q=tags%3Ato

    Unfortunately, that particular string is used in at least three different spots:

    Messages: "to: <username>" https://www.discogs.com/messages/ (click into a message from this view)
    Shipping Policies: "to <country>" https://www.discogs.com/settings/shipping
    Events: <date, time> to <time>" https://www.discogs.com/events

    One of our Japanese translators just mentioned this string is problematic. My hope is that we can "break up" this string into three different "to" strings. Then we can add the correct translation for each. It requires a developer to make the update though. I'm hoping a developer can fix this within a few weeks. I'll let you know when it's fixed. Thanks!
  • LetsBoogie 2 months ago

    I was wondering something. This time it doesn't have to do with translations but more the layout. I noticed that in the english version, on the statistics section of a release page, the infos displayed are well "aligned", like it makes them more "clear" and easier to read straight at the first look.
    In french, those infos aren't aligned...
    Here is the pic, which will probably help you understand what I mean, more easily: https://i.ibb.co/tczx4vy/565646.jpg

    On the upper left part, this is how the english version currently displays.
    On the upper right part, this is how the french version currently displays.
    At the bottom, this is how the french version should ideally look. Infos look more clear and easier to read. More "pleasant" to read as well.

    Do you think there's any possibility of adding, for example, some extra spaces on specific strings, to make the infos on the statistics section of a release page look more "aligned" ?
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    Weetzie 2 months ago

    Thanks for bringing this up!
    I agree, it would certainly help readability if the alignment was improved.

    LetsBoogie
    Do you think there's any possibility of adding, for example, some extra spaces on specific strings, to make the infos on the statistics section of a release page look more "aligned" ?


    I think ideally we can fix this on the code-side, because this is a problem for all non-English languages. Let me chat with a developer to see if we can fix this formatting on the code-side without creating other issues.
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    Weetzie about 1 month ago

    Hello again!

    We've separated more homonym strings that may need different translations.

    I've added String Instructions for all of these newly separated strings: https://www.transifex.com/discogs-1/discogs-i18n/translate/#en/$/175859639?q=tags%3AContext_Added

    You'll notice that most of those strings have translations filled in by "DiscogsStaff"... but that really just means those translations were populated by our Translation Memory. Many of those translations are likely wrong. So if you have time, please take a look! Thanks!
  • LetsBoogie about 1 month ago

    That's great, now with context, I used the appropriate translations! Thank you. 👌
  • Staff 71

    Weetzie 22 days ago

    Hello French Translation Team!

    Our developers have added translation tags to several areas of the website that were missing translations previously.

    So there are many new strings that need translations. Any help you can provide with translations would be much appreciated: https://www.transifex.com/discogs-1/discogs-i18n/translate/#fr/$/179022108?q=translated%3Ano

    We also separated out a few strings related to feedback. Since "Feedback" is both plural and singular in English, the plural and singular strings were combined previously. Here are the related strings that might need to be corrected:
    https://www.transifex.com/discogs-1/discogs-i18n/translate/#fr/$/179022109?q=tags%3Afeedback
    (Note that our Transifex "Translation Memory" just filled in the previously used translation. So although there are translations filled in, it's likely that two of those translations are incorrect.)

    Remember newly provided translations aren't added to the website until the resource gets to 100% translated and reviewed, so let's try to get those translations complete. Thanks everyone!

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