• Vorash over 19 years ago

    My call is: The KLF - What Time is Love (The Original Pure Trance) from 1988 http://www.discogs.com/release/92768. Anybody knows something earlier than that ?
  • d3a0n3 over 19 years ago

    Hasnt this been done already about one hundred times this year alone?
  • Manys over 19 years ago

    this is why: trance = repetition.
  • d3a0n3 over 19 years ago

    LOL
  • Gundjam over 19 years ago

    how about "Donna Summer - I feel Love" from 1977?
  • donnacha over 19 years ago

    Throbbing Gristle "Hot on the Heels of Love" in 1979.
  • djfrankiebones over 19 years ago

    Donna Summer and Kraftwerk and Cat Stevens did three tracks in 1977 that could be assumed to be trance, techno, electro....

    Throbbing Gristle was only discovered by people recently.

    AGE OF LOVE is the first official record that was considered trance, and then maybe Liasons D.
  • Anonymous

    Anonymous over 19 years ago

    yeah Age of Love i'd say...all that other stuff is more of an influence, i'd never say Throbbing Gristle or Kraftwerk is trance...
  • donnacha over 19 years ago

    @ Frankie - surely mean by "some" people recently. There's a clear line of progression from TG to Chris & Cosey (particularly Exotika and Trance) and [Invalid Artist] to the likes of Astral Projection ("Psychic TV - this is the band that started us in Acid House 13 years ago and opened our eyes to dance music."). Loads of UK and Euro dance acts in the early days were very much aware of TG - Shamen and Finitribe came from the post-industrial scene, everyone that came from the euro EBM/new beat scene (Lords Of Acid and Sven Väth in particular). I could go on (Andrew Weatherall remixing Psychic TV, Grid growing out of PTV, etc). Perhaps someone else knows, but I have a vague memory of hearing a track by Orb years ago that, I think, sampled "Hamburger Lady".
  • Anonymous

    Anonymous over 19 years ago

    I made a post last night about Kraftwerk and it's dissapeared, so I'll make it again :o/
    Listen to Kometenmelodie 2 by Kraftwerk from the 1974 album Autobahn, and then tell me that's not a prototype Trance tune, 'cos it certainly ain't Electro or Experimental as most list the album. :o?
  • djpepsi over 19 years ago

    doctor who theme music, thx.
  • Mr.Fonk over 19 years ago

    some suggestions:

    Manuel Göttsching - E2-E4 (1984)
    Space - Magic Fly (1977)
    DNA - La Serenissima (1990)
  • Mr.Fonk over 19 years ago

    and the mother of all "digidee"-Trance:
    Ray Lynch - The Ooh of Pleasure
  • Anonymous

    Anonymous over 19 years ago

    Doctor Who Naaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh that's way too scarey to be Trance, a generation of kids was traumatised by the sound of that tune coming on. :o?
  • tonymasud over 19 years ago

    Age of Love would maybe be it, but then again the versions released on the original 12" on diki was closer to belgian new beat rather than (oldschool) trance, but the boeing mix did have the most aestetichs of oldschool trance. but i still say it's Suck Me Plasma #2 being Dance 2 Trance - We Came In Peace / Dance 2 Trance. KLF's 1988 original version of what time is love also would count also but then again the 1988 version has no kick
  • phish63 over 19 years ago

    @ mrfonktrain

    you are only the second person i have ever known to mention ray lynch. i think that deep breakfast is one of the best albums ever composed. the only other guy i know that has mentioned it is the guy who introduced it to me.
  • ongo over 19 years ago

    what about the cave-men just banging on drums for hours
  • _Hawk_ over 19 years ago

    Early 70's work from Can ?..
  • Mr.Fonk over 19 years ago

    phish63: cheers... I can't even tell where I know this Album from, I only can say that it's visionary and great - though lacking the continuous beat of recent trance records.
  • Anonymous

    Anonymous over 19 years ago

    Throbbing Gristle was only discovered by people recently.

    Ah, yeah right. What world did you grow up in? I know a hell of a lot of people that have been listening to them since TG started, or at least for 10 years now.

    First trance I heard was Astral Projection - Trust In Trance, but I'm not a big fan.
  • Anonymous

    Anonymous over 19 years ago

    Throbbing Gristle was only discovered by people recently.

    Ah, yeah right. What world did you grow up in? I know a hell of a lot of people that have been listening to them since TG started, or at least for 10 years now.

    First trance I heard was Astral Projection - Trust In Trance, but I'm not a big fan.
  • Anonymous

    Anonymous over 19 years ago

    Chris and cosey-trance!
  • mandragoran over 19 years ago

    Yeah...let's list a bunch of Disco/Krautrock/Electro 60's/70's tracks and call them trance....
  • simfonik over 19 years ago

    probably some kind of shamanistic stuff from africa.
  • Mr.Fonk over 19 years ago

    qmandragoran: of course only DJ Tiesto records are trance :-)
  • djpepsi over 19 years ago

    @plastic_demons WooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO-OOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooo woOOOO ooooOOOOOh woo woo ooo wooo oo woooo WWOOOOo oooOOOOHH WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
  • Anonymous

    Anonymous over 19 years ago

    * Runs and hides behind the sofa *

    D'OH!
  • gmos over 19 years ago

    Maybe something by Klaus Schulze could be considered early Trance
  • djfrankiebones over 19 years ago

    when I said discovered recently, I meant people in the electronic music scene. Obviously I should have mentioned that.

    And Kraftwerk did do the prototype trance thing first. If 1974 works for you on that, I have no problem with that.

    And while "Age Of Love" was what we called trance for the first time in 1990, I live in New York City (lived), And according to the Unofficial History of Trance In America, Sasha & Digweed are the so-called pioneers of Trance @ Twilo in 1997.

    ...as for the DJ who first really pioneered the movement or was the earliest known DJ to break the genre:
    Talla 2XLC.
  • donnacha over 19 years ago

    I think I've seriously disproved your point above, even for "people in the electronic music scene". In the States, perhaps, but not in the UK/Europe - at least as far as artists go. In fact, you citing Talla 2XLC proves my point brilliantly - as he was a major figure on the European post-industrial/EBM scene and was, without a doubt, aware of TG.
  • phish63 over 19 years ago

    @ MrFonktrain

    have you checked out his web site (mr. lynch's) and read about how long it took to compose that album? have you read up on him?

    interesting cat. shunning the money is a brave and rare.....

    his web site is here
  • phish63 over 19 years ago

    sorry, that is wrong.

    how about here
  • djfrankiebones over 19 years ago

    donnacha - DON'T let me ruin your day about never hearing about Throbbing Gristle, my bad. Obviously DJ Hell knew who they were. I am sure Dave Clarke did, however Mills? That I cannot confirm nor deny, but I would say negative.

    Now I was buying Talla 2XLC records when Sven was doing that OFF artist thing circa 1988. New Zone, Boy, Generator, Music Research, Zoth Omfug (Did I spell that wrong?)...I mean I was looking for that sound, yet nobody ever said, look for Throbbing Gristle.

    When I played "Reasons To Be Cheerful PT. 3" or Telex or Soft Cell or Ministry or Depeche Mode or Yazoo, nobody said check out Throbbing Gristle. You got forgive me and everyone else for not pointing that out.....
  • djfrankiebones over 19 years ago

    Can we assume that Antler-Subway helped in the creation of trance right at the point where New Beat was becoming Techno? R&S, Music Man, etc?
  • Manys over 19 years ago

    you nerds haven't even gotten into 19th century trance music yet? how long must this thread goes on before someone represents for the sufis?
  • MONK over 19 years ago

    some africans playing da drums for the gang back in they days till they fell in trance
  • jeromy over 19 years ago

    Cosmic Baby was making trance tracks back in 1990.
  • djfrankiebones over 19 years ago

    ^ correct. Cosmic Baby was making tracks in 1990. the only problem is that nobody was playing them. That would change by 1992.

    ...It has been said that REVELATION "Synth-It" was not a trance record. Now I started Atmosphere Records in 1989.
    The reason why I started that label was to put out tracks that were atmospheric...aka...trance-y.
  • donnacha over 19 years ago

    frankie - that's a completely different point and one I actually agree with you completely about! You originally said "Throbbing Gristle was only discovered by people recently", which is patently incorrect, as I've outlined, a huge amount of early UK and Euro dance acts were clearly aware of TG and the post-TG bands (PTV, C&C and Coil). However, to say that there has been a long process in dance music of removing TG et al. from the history of the style, is clearly accurate. Why, I don't know, but it's clearly a factor. This - Persuasion - shows that it wasn't unanimous. Honestly, though, have a listen to "Hot on the heels of love" and tell me that's not proto-trance.
  • donnacha over 19 years ago

    frankie - that's a completely different point and one I actually agree with you completely about! You originally said "Throbbing Gristle was only discovered by people recently", which is patently incorrect, as I've outlined, a huge amount of early UK and Euro dance acts were clearly aware of TG and the post-TG bands (PTV, C&C and Coil). However, to say that there has been a long process in dance music of removing TG et al. from the history of the style, is clearly accurate. Why, I don't know, but it's clearly a factor. This - Persuasion - shows that it wasn't unanimous. Honestly, though, have a listen to "Hot on the heels of love" and tell me that's not proto-trance.
  • djfrankiebones over 19 years ago

    Hot On The Heels Of Trance?

    My short-lived venture as A&R and label head of that label from 1989-1992 will show that I was also an early pioneer of trance music in America. For reference purposes, my vision of trance music was based on Sueno Latino which in itself was based on E2-E4.
  • Anonymous

    Anonymous over 19 years ago

    TG is about as trance as a goth who takes it up the ass on weekends. frankiebones don't worry, your missing nothing.
  • aeternox over 19 years ago

    the perennial thread returns..
  • Mr.Fonk over 19 years ago

    frankie invented drum&bass, trance & techno. keep up good work *gg*
  • Anonymous

    Anonymous over 19 years ago

    al gore invented the internet
  • Anonymous

    Anonymous over 19 years ago

    oprah invented the housewife
  • Mr.Fonk over 19 years ago

    and knarznacht invented spam
  • djfrankiebones over 19 years ago

    Invention was never my forte'....please do not patronize me, as I have run out of my prescription*. *=LOL. I would like to be remembered for being a 'trigger'...
    My gun goes boom boom and yours goes pow pow.

    In all seriousness, being in the early U.K. scene in 1989, allowed me to share ideas with Carl Cox, Fabio & Groove, Liam Howlett, The-Shamen & Mr. C, Neil from N-Joi, Tony Thorpe, Micky Finn. Those ideas foundations were already shared with equal minded friends back home: Lenny Dee, Tommy Musto, Joey Beltram, Mundo Musique, Adam X, Ray Love & Damon Wild. Between all the names mentioned...you have a melting pot of things that have yet to come. That is in 1989. It is 2005, right?
  • mandragoran over 19 years ago

    Hindsight is 20/20 eh?
  • Anonymous

    Anonymous over 19 years ago

    i wish my hind sight vision was x-ray.

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