• Spy_On_Summer over 11 years ago

    sjcee edited over 10 years ago
    The labelcode is a number with 4 or 5 digits, which is assigned by the GVL. Each label has an own code. Here can you find the formular for the brand registration in english.

    fictive example of brand registration:

    company: Ariola-Eurodisc GmbH
    contact info: ....
    brand name (label) of applicant: ISLAND
    brand name's country of origin: UK
    The brand name has been licensed to us by company: Island Records Ltd.
    for the period from .... for the territory of the Federal Republic of Germany.

    2. We will immediately inform GVL if or when
    • our authorization with regard to the brand name ... comes to an end, and, if relevant, inform GVL to whom authorization has passed,...


    Other sources:

    wikipedia (article in german)

    Another definition:
    The Label Code (LC) was introduced in 1977 by the IFPI (International Federation of Phonogram and Videogram Industries) in order to unmistakably identify the different record labels (see Introduction, Record labels) for rights purposes. The Label Code consists historically of 4 figures, presently being extended to 5 figures, preceded by LC and a dash (*) (e.g. LC-0193 = Electrola; LC-0233 = His Master’s Voice). Note that the number of countries using the LC is limited, and that the code given on the item is not always accurate.(**)

    (*) i have never seen a dash between the LC and ####
    (**) it's possible that e.g. a Tuff Gong release used the ISLAND labelcode or a "10 Records" release used the VIRGIN labelcode. I have a Warner Bros. LP with WB-label design. the labelcode (LC 0392) is crossed out and replaced with the WEA labelcode (LC 4281). Cat# is WEA ## ###. The 7" says "from the warner LP "...." WB ## ###.

    A short list of labelcodes of registered brands (i will update this list):

    old 4-digit-system:

    LC 0001: ULTRA PHONE
    LC 0107: AMADEO
    LC 0110: ANGEL (EMI label)
    LC 0113: ARCHIV PRODUKTION
    LC 0116: ARIOLA
    LC 0120: ATCO
    LC 0121: ATLANTIC
    LC 0126: BARCLAY
    LC 0133: BLUE NOTE
    LC 0136: BRUNSWICK
    LC 0137: BUENA VISTA (Disney label)
    LC 0148: CAPITOL
    LC 0149: CBS
    LC 0162: COLUMBIA
    LC 0171: DECCA
    LC 0173: DEUTSCHE GRAMMOPHON
    LC 0192: ELEKTRA
    LC 0193: ELECTROLA
    LC 0194: ELITE SPECIAL
    LC 0199: EPIC
    LC 0211: FONTANA
    LC 0233: HIS MASTER'S VOICE
    LC 0245: KARUSSELL
    LC 0249: LIBERTY
    LC 0253: LONDON
    LC 0268: MERCURY
    LC 0270: METRONOME
    LC 0278: NONESUCH
    LC 0287: ODEON
    LC 0299: PARLOPHONE
    LC 0305: PHILIPS
    LC 0309: POLYDOR
    LC 0310: POLYPHON
    LC 0313: PRESTIGE
    LC 0315: PYE (+early PRT)
    LC 0316: RCA (+subs, e.g. RCA VICTOR)
    LC 0322: REPRISE
    LC 0325: RIVERSIDE
    LC 0332: ROULETTE
    LC 0346: SONET (+ VOLUME)
    LC 0366: TELEFUNKEN
    LC 0379: UNITED ARTISTS RECORDS
    LC 0381: VANGUARD
    LC 0383: VERVE RECORDS
    LC 0392: WARNER BROS. RECORDS (+PAISLEY PARK RECORDS)
    LC 0407: ISLAND
    LC 0454: ABC RECORDS
    LC 0485: A&M RECORDS
    LC 0542: EMI
    LC 0673: CHICKS ON SPEED RECORDS
    LC 0720: FANTASY
    LC 0835: HANSA
    LC 0881: MOTOWN
    LC 0894: PANDAIMONIUM
    LC 0967: EUROPA
    LC 0971: BUDDAH RECORDS
    LC 0999: SUPERSTAR RECORDINGS
    LC 1056: MCA or MCA RECORDS
    LC 1074: APPLE RECORDS
    LC 1109: INTERCORD
    LC 1305: HARVEST
    LC 1331: EMIDISC
    LC 1409: CHARISMA ("THE FAMOUS CHARISMA LABEL")
    LC 1421: BELLAPHON
    LC 1477: CRYSTAL
    LC 1557: EastWest
    LC 1626: CHRYSALIS
    LC 1632: THRESHOLD
    LC 1633: VERTIGO
    LC 1750: RAK
    LC 1846: UNIVERSAL MCA MUSIC (UK)
    LC 1866: CARRERE
    LC 1941: HALL OF SERMON
    LC 2070: WARP RECORDS
    LC 2313: BRONZE
    LC 2816: KITTY-YO
    LC 2604: Sony Music Media (assumed)
    LC 2619: RYKODISC
    LC 2648: ASYLUM RECORDS
    LC 2746: [TRISOL] MUSIC GROUP GmbH + TRINITY + APOCALYPTIC VISION
    LC 2828: WARNER STRATEGIC MARKETING (?) WARNER MUSIC UK (?)
    LC 2851: OBLIVION (division of SPV)
    LC 2895: MOLOKO+
    LC 2970: RSO
    LC 3090: MASCOT RECORDS
    LC 3098: VIRGIN (+some subs, e.g. "10 Records")
    LC 3228: SIRE
    LC 3272: CASABLANCA Record and Filmworks
    LC 3311: NOVA (teldec label)
    LC 3355: JET RECORDS
    LC 3375: DARK HORSE RECORDS
    LC 3379: JUPITER RECORDS
    LC 3389: MAGNET RECORDS
    LC 3455: JET RECORDS
    LC 3475: PRIVATE STOCK
    LC 3484: ARISTA
    LC 3706: TELDEC
    LC 4210: RED BUS RECORDS
    LC 4281: WEA
    LC 4324: POLYSTAR
    LC 4435: Sky
    LC 4513: KLING KLANG
    LC 4516: Oasis
    LC 4554: BABY RECORDS
    LC 4593: OVERGROUND RECORDS
    LC 4764: STIFF RECORDS
    LC 4793: CONSEQUENCE RECORDS
    LC 4810: LOLLIPOP RECORDS
    LC 5013: TESS RECORDS EUROPE
    LC 5163: ENIGMA
    LC 5375: SYNTHETIC SYMPHONY (division of SPV)
    LC 5485: BEGGARS BANQUET
    LC 5511: APOLLYON
    LC 5661: ROUGH TRADE GERMANY
    LC 5717: EMI AMERICA
    LC 5830: STRAND
    LC 5834: MUTE RECORDS + TOAST HAWAII (german releases - licensee Intercord Tonträger)
    LC 5865: Stockholm Records
    LC 6001: Force Inc. Music Works, Intense Recordings, Riot Beats + other FIM sublabels
    LC 6012: DARK VINYL RECORDS
    LC 6209: Fax +49-69/450464
    LC 6210: Full Moon
    LC 6306: CREATION RECORDS
    LC 6339: Pool
    LC 6249: DANSE MACABRE
    LC 6350: ZYX RECORDS / ZYX Music
    LC 6444: Fiction Records
    LC 6526: DARK STAR
    LC 6556: DEDICATED
    LC 6564: DEATHWISH RECORDS
    LC 6655: EMERGENCY (Emergency Records)
    LC 6693: ICE
    LC 6769: Rocktopus
    LC 6782: Reflektor Z
    LC 6821: HYPERIUM RECORDS
    LC 6832: DION FORTUNE
    LC 6893: LIVELY ART
    LC 6971: ANTLER SUBWAY
    LC 7027: NUCLEAR BLAST (?)
    LC 7036: MUSIC RESEARCH
    LC 7037: MUSIC RESEARCH (misprint?)
    LC 7060: Welt-Rekord
    LC 7192: SETANTA RECORDS (?) GO!DISCS (?)
    LC 7140: PRT Records
    LC 7143: Musikant
    LC 7266: Geffen Records
    LC 7467: NOVA TEKK (Solar Plexus)
    LC 7572: INTERFISH
    LC 7590: TIS (=TELDEC IMPORT SERVICE)
    LC 7800: PLAY IT AGAIN SAM
    LC 7861: TOUCH & GO
    LC 7871: VINYL SOLUTION, ELECTRON INDUSTRIES, SUBVERSION RECORDS, BASSMENT RECORDS (3) and presumably the rest of the sub-labels
    LC 7925: Jive
    LC 7987: ANXIOUS (Anxious Records Ltd.)
    LC 8100: SPV RECORDS
    LC 8121: BCM Records
    LC 8323: SUB POP
    LC 8428: EMI Columbia Austria
    LC 8603: DOSSIER
    LC 8637: Ariola Express
    LC 8762: GiG Records
    LC 8820: NORMAL
    LC 9231: ROADRUNNER
    LC 9628: Smithsonian Folkways Recordings

    5-digit-system (still active brands with a 4-digit-code start with a zero, e.g. LC 0407 -> LC 00407):

    LC 01846: Universal Records (+?others?)
    LC 02592: Certificate 18
    LC 02604: Sony Music Media
    LC 02816: Kitty-Yo
    LC 04270: Trikont
    LC 10387: Morr Music
    LC 10521: Mille Plateaux
    LC 10634: Cargo Records
    LC 11269: Nettwerk UK
    LC 11652: Keplar
  • mjb over 11 years ago

    Yes! Thank you!

    OK, so now if I can see LC 0407 on a German release that has Island plastered all over it, I don't want anyone telling me to file it under Ariola! :)
  • onelittle over 11 years ago

    Oh, genius! :)
  • elisel over 11 years ago

    Nice work!
  • Haze over 11 years ago

    Spy, should we add Labelcodes of all labels we know, or only the big players?
  • Spy_On_Summer over 11 years ago

    A complete list would be fine. Maybe teo can implement an optional LC-field with an automatic check. (e.g. somebody used "TELDEC" as label and the LC 3379 -> result is a warning "labelcode belongs to Jupiter Records, please doublecheck the label")

    More important in my post above is the "brand registration" example, esp. the fields "company", "brand name" and "has been licensed to us by company" because it gives a hint for the "How to deal with Major Label organization?" question.

    [Invalid Label], [Invalid Label], [Invalid Label], [Invalid Label], [Invalid Label] are not different labels. It is always the SAME "brand name". It makes no sense to split a brand into territorial pieces. ok, the releases are handled by different companies, but also in one country a brand can be marketed by different companies (e.g. the MCA brand in Germany: TELDEC "Telefunken-Decca" Schallplatten GmbH, Metronome Musik GmbH, Ariola-Eurodisc GmbH, WEA Musik GmbH etc.)
  • onelittle over 11 years ago

    I'm totally in agreement with S_O_S here…

    Please post labelcodes to this thread, and S_O_S, sjcee and I add to the list above
  • Anonymous over 11 years ago

    Just from what I have in arm's length at the moment:

    LC 1557: EastWest
    LC 4435: Sky
    LC 6209: Fax +49-69/450464

    And just for emphasis:

    LC 0407: MOTHER EFFIN ISLAND GAW DANGIT!
  • onelittle over 11 years ago

    lol
  • gonzales4ever over 11 years ago

    some more labelcodes:
    LC 5834: Mute Records
    LC 3455: Jet Records
    LC 6210: Full Moon/WEA
    LC 3272: Casablanca Records
    LC 6655: Emergency Records
    LC 4210: Red Bus Records
    LC 3389: Magnet Records Ltd.
    LC 2816: Kitty-Yo
  • mjb over 11 years ago

    According to this thread,
    LC 2604 appears on at least 2 Sony Music Media releases
    LC 8121 appears on at least 1 BCM Records release
    LC 10387 appears on at least 2 Morr Music releases

    For those first two you might ask in that forum about the countries. BCM could be Germany or UK, it looks like.
  • deejsasqui over 11 years ago

    LC 9628: Smithsonian Folkways Recordings (from Mighty Sparrow: First Flight (not in yet)

    Just a post-and-run, while I have this in front of me =)
  • Spy_On_Summer over 11 years ago

    hi,
    I came across that topic in the forums.
    great idea to make a list of all these labelcodes. I have been wondering before why that part of information wasn't included in discogs yet.
    I've gone through a portion of my CD's & found already these that you can add to that list:

    LC 0673: CHICKS ON SPEED RECORDS
    LC 0894: PANDAIMONIUM
    LC 0999: SUPERSTAR RECORDINGS
    LC 1846: UNIVERSAL MCA MUSIC (UK)
    LC 1941: HALL OF SERMON
    LC 2070: WARP RECORDS
    LC 2619: RYKODISC
    LC 2746: [TRISOL] MUSIC GROUP GmbH + TRINITY + APOCALYPTIC VISION
    LC 2828: WARNER STRATEGIC MARKETING (?) WARNER MUSIC UK (?)
    LC 2851: OBLIVION (division of SPV)
    LC 2895: MOLOKO+
    LC 3090: MASCOT RECORDS
    LC 4593: OVERGROUND RECORDS
    LC 4793: CONSEQUENCE RECORDS
    LC 5013: TESS RECORDS EUROPE
    LC 5375: SYNTHETIC SYMPHONY (division of SPV)
    LC 5511: APOLLYON
    LC 5661: ROUGH TRADE GERMANY
    LC 5834: MUTE RECORDS + TOAST HAWAII
    LC 6012: DARK VINYL RECORDS
    LC 6249: DANSE MACABRE
    LC 6306: CREATION RECORDS
    LC 6526: DARK STAR
    LC 6556: DEDICATED
    LC 6564: DEATHWISH RECORDS
    LC 6821: HYPERIUM RECORDS
    LC 6832: DION FORTUNE
    LC 6893: LIVELY ART
    LC 6971: ANTLER SUBWAY
    LC 7027: NUCLEAR BLAST (?)
    LC 7036: MUSIC RESEARCH
    LC 7037: MUSIC RESEARCH (misprint?)
    LC 7192: SETANTA RECORDS (?) GO!DISCS (?)
    LC 7467: NOVA TEKK (Solar Plexus)
    LC 7572: INTERFISH
    LC 7800: PLAY IT AGAIN SAM
    LC 7861: TOUCH & GO
    LC 8100: SPV RECORDS
    LC 8323: SUB POP
    LC 8603: DOSSIER
    LC 8820: NORMAL
    LC 9231: ROADRUNNER

    Questions? don't hesitate to contact me & I'll try to sort it out.

    Good luck with sorting out the 'majors' chaos :-)
    I'm surely going to keep an eye on that forum.

    Cheers,
    Paul aka psychonausea
    Good luck


    thanks nik & teo that you removed the edit function. Absolutely idiotic.
  • onelittle over 11 years ago

    (editing should be re-enabled for this topic now, S_O_S)
  • sjcee over 11 years ago

    sjcee edited over 11 years ago
    edited S_O_S list with the missing codes of the additional lists (only forum admins can...)

    if everyone is fine I'd think it be good if we'd delete posts with additional codes, once they've been added to keep the topic as small as possible. --> any thoughts, complains???
  • Spy_On_Summer over 11 years ago

    please keep the last list at the moment. i will check all "brand names" (therefore i will remove again the "germany" in "Rough Trade" + what is the Brand of the Trisol ... GmbH?, UNIVERSAL MCA MUSIC (UK) sounds also like a division name and not like a brand). secondly i think some "new" brands belong to the 5-digit-section (perhaps we need 2 lists 4-digits & 5-digits or better one thread for discussions & additions + one (closed) thread for the 4-digit-system & one (closed) thread for the 5-digit-system?).

  • deejsasqui over 11 years ago

    deejsasqui edited over 11 years ago
    sjcee: should you make a database somewhere else and link to it in the main post? That way the original posts + posters aren't lost, if there are discussions to be had about the validity of the labelcodes.

    This will get REALLY long, as it's to be over 10,000 labels.

    And a few more labelcodes:
    LC 02592: Certificate 18, from Pilote's Kingfood™
    LC 04270: Trikont, from a comp not yet in the system
    LC 5865: Stockholm Records, from Antiloop's LP CD
    LC 10521: Mille Plateaux, from Kid606's PS I Love You
    LC 11652: Keplar, from Tigric's Compact Disco

    I found a German radio station that seems to include labelcodes in their playsists, for whatever reason. But it seems their info should be taken with some scepticism and research, as I came upon this site when looking for "LC 5865" (from my copy of LP, which seems to be on Stockholm Records). That site lists it as being attributed to a Stockholm Records sub-label, Trampolene, while my copy of Antiloop's album is on Stockholm Records itself. Or if we are to include this in the release guidelines with some built-in cross-referencing, the system would have to be able to reference the parent labels, not just the main label of the given release.

    On this - does anyone know what the PY code is? I think I've only seen it on Antiloop's LP CD. The design is very similar to the LC style, with a circle around the PY, with an oval extending to the numbers following.
  • Spy_On_Summer over 11 years ago

    Spy_On_Summer edited over 11 years ago
    don't know the use of this codes, but i guess if it has a PY prefix than it belongs to the PolyGram label family. CB ### was CBS and WE ### Warner. Older Polydor have POL ###.

    Stockholm Records / labels (S)
    Profile: A PolyGram Company

    +
    i think it has to do with the format. A lot of releases have the same ###

    e.g.
    The Time -> CB 491
    From Source To Sea -> CB 491
  • deejsasqui over 11 years ago

    deejsasqui edited over 11 years ago
    Ah, quite possible. Thanks!

    Another labelcode:
    LC 10634 - Cargo Records, from Operator's album "Welcome To The Wonderful World) - not yet in the DB (submitting it now), and matches with some listings on this German radio station playlist

  • JT_X over 11 years ago

    LC 11269 - Nettwerk UK appears on Amazing and Go.
  • moseslawson over 11 years ago

    LC 7871 - Vinyl Solution, Electron Industries, Subversion Records, Bassment Records (3) and presumably the rest of the sub-labels.

    I guess it's the Schnozza Music label code?
  • gonzales4ever over 10 years ago

    Can we always go for the label-code?
    See e.g. this release :
    LC 5834, so label should usually be Mute Records.
    But it was submitted as being on Intercord Tonträger GmbH.
  • mawiles over 10 years ago

    No, we can't rely on it for licensed releases.

    But it's useful for sublabels of major labels (e.g. within Universal Music (Germany): Polystar Records, Zeitgeist)
  • taalem over 10 years ago

    about POL ###, PY ###, CB ###, etc. codes :
    these are french distributor codes. if i remember well, they have something to do with the wholesale price.
    i've already added some notes on various profiles like Wagram or Virgin France S.A.. they mustn't be entered as cat# or part of cat#.
  • sjcee over 10 years ago

    @ gonzales:

    that's too obvious mate:
    read the label:
    Mute Records LTd = British company
    Marked by Intercord Ton = German licensee
    GEMA = released in Germany

    --> german release with german LC
  • sjcee over 10 years ago

    I've just updated the list with the new codes...
  • mjb over 10 years ago

    mjb edited over 10 years ago
  • hmvh over 10 years ago

    As suggested above, I'm cool with keeping only the "list" in this thread and trashing all subsequent posts re. additions to it.

    Also, as a point of interest: I've not seen a single South African release with an LC number.
  • mjb over 10 years ago

    Apparently, LC numbers appear only on releases that are intended for sale in Germany, I believe (but not necessarily only in Germany / you'll see them on pan-EU releases originating in other countries). So I wouldn't expect to see it on a South African release.

    My problem with keeping just the list is that people will make mistakes and we won't know what they were basing their info on. Some of the comments above make it clear that people might think "oh LC (whatever#) is (whatever label)" at first, then find out that the code applies to a family of labels, or the parent, or the successor, or whatever. Discogs having its own label naming & organization system makes for further room for people to be confused. So I like to be able to see what releases people used as evidence of the codes that were added to the list.

    For example, did you know LC 0407 (Island) is used for all Island, 4th & Broadway, Mango, etc. branded releases in Germany, whether issued via Ariola/BMG, PolyGram, Island Mercury Labelgroup, Polydor Island Group, or Universal Music Domestic Division? If we didn't know about LC 0407 and someone saw just one of those releases, they might attribute the code to the wrong label, and this could lead to people misfiling things in Discogs as they try to make the Discogs label match the Label Code label.
  • delysid over 10 years ago

    delysid edited over 10 years ago
    LC 7026 - Carat Record GmbH spotted on this
    LC 4117 - Juventus (Sublabel of AZ-Records) spotted on this
    LC 6584 - Luna Musik
    LC 1118 - Piccobello
    LC 4306 - Flower (Sublabel of AZ-Records)
    LC 8117 - Avon Musik
    LC 8076 - Blow Up
    LC 2801 - Bungalow
    LC 3389 - Magnet Records Ltd.
    LC 7023 - SBK Records
    LC 8662 - Rush Records
    LC 8243 - PWL Records
    LC 0405 - Chic (Germany)
    LC 7276 - Master Records (3)
    LC 4589 - Beserkley Records
    LC 7472 - Coconut Records
  • mawiles over 10 years ago

    mawiles edited over 10 years ago
    LC 01127 - Bookmark
    LC 13848 - Zentimental Records
    LC 04728 - Overdose / Pulse
    LC 05496 - Vision Soundcarriers
    LC 06172 - EDM
    LC 04731 - Dos Or Die Recordings
    LC 10526 - Gang Go Music
    LC 10432 - Zeitgeist
    LC 12090 - Konsum
    LC 02182 - Kontor Records
    LC 02220 - Unsubmissive Records
    LC 02226 - Drizzly
    LC 06748 - Urban
    LC 6850 - 101 Records
    LC 6131 - Direct Effect (Germany)
    LC 05375 - Synthetic Symphony
    LC 8721 - Animalized
    LC 2171 - Movement (Germany)
  • mawiles over 10 years ago

    I'm currently adding labelcodes to labels where I can compare many releases by either available images or my own collection.

    The labelcode should guide submitters into the right direction to choose the proper label.
    But it's not definitive, since sublabels can use the same LC, and there's also a lot of complex licensing stuff. Some big labels also changed their LC with the distributor, e.g. Jive.
  • hmvh over 10 years ago

    One more for the list: LC 11683 = Modernsoul
  • delysid over 10 years ago

    LC 7192 - Go! Beat / Go! Disc
  • kreuztot over 10 years ago

    LC 5807 / LC 05807 - 4AD
  • gonzales4ever over 9 years ago

    By now wikipedia has quite a big list of Labelcodes.
  • deejsasqui over 9 years ago

    Thanks, gonzales4ever!

    Here's a new one:
    Strange Ways = 7147
    per The Perc Meets The Hidden Gentleman - The Fruits Of Sin & Labor, and Wolfsheim - 55578
  • Jooles over 9 years ago

    Hmm, Spy_On_Summer, has the Edit function still been disabled in this forum?

    Anyway, here's another code for the list:

    LC 13285 - Get Physical Music
    (Appears on at least 4 releases I have on that label).
  • FLuViRuS over 9 years ago

    LC 9158 - Naxos
  • mjb over 9 years ago

    Interesting presentation of a LabelCode:

    "German License: LC1801"
  • sebfact over 8 years ago

    LC 7259 was the (now defunct) labelcode for Korova Records.
  • sebfact over 8 years ago

    London Records used (uses) the LC 7654 (LC 07654) for their continental European releases. The German GVL lists for LC 07654 the following 3 labels: FFRR Records, Slash Records, London Records

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