• La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago


    nmlk
    NEWS of Belgium got soon interested and when we said... it was a limited release they jumped on it and we had a deal.


    Hehe, never underestimate the importance of Belgium for electronic music in the early years guys :-)
    Katrien Klausing (who was working for NEWS back then)told a bit about the history of FAX (and other ambientlabels)a while ago, she lives in my neighbourhood, do you still have contact with her Pete? It's thanks to Katrien's chill-out mixes that I got into the whole ambient and FAX-stuff. That lady opened my world during the 90s :-) And she's one of the friendliest and most lovely people I've ever met in the electronic music scene, she rules! :-)
  • La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago

    100
  • Articuno over 8 years ago

    Thanks for the information about the limitations and being at least "half" loyal to your original collectors run by using new artwork and label name. It would be interesting also to have multiple limited runs of the CDs, then collectors could have the FAX version on 1 shelf, the AW on another shelf, etc. :D
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    vladza wrote:quote selection
    My question to Pete: as a collector of your label's music, I really want
    to know, which Fax CDs you never will be able to repress because of the other artists author rights and they wouldn't let you do it. If it is any?

    There are a lot of PS titles that will not be repressed. You can easily have iTunes as a reference... what is not there will not be repressed.Funny enough... a lot of these CDs are still available at reasonable prices (as you can see from my offers here on discogs).
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    little_alien wrote:
    "Thanks for the answers, very informative! I always thought AW releases were more than 500 as they are less of a gamble as you know the titles are popular."

    This was in the past... at the moment I stick with the 300 and I am fine as my "AW corner" of my stock looks pretty tidy.

    Oh Peter, not really FAX in general, but about a specific release, did you catch my earlier post about the weird sounds in Re:sonate? http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/205699#2565075
    [/quote]

    That's part of the song... "scan failed" sound ;-)

  • gandolfito63 over 8 years ago

    Talking again about the re-releases,I think the one that should be repressed as soon as possible is DATacide II.It is the one that never is for sale anywhere,and the day one comes into the light,there will be just one Fax-lover that will have to pay an astronomic amount to grab it! Of course,I'm talking just from my point of view,the one of a frustrated-DATacide II-non-owner...I hope I'm not alone on this...
  • nmlk over 8 years ago


    La_Monte_Old
    Moanerman wrote:quote selection

    nmlk
    NEWS of Belgium got soon interested and when we said... it was a limited release they jumped on it and we had a deal.

    Hehe, never underestimate the importance of Belgium for electronic music in the early years guys :-)
    Katrien Klausing (who was working for NEWS back then)told a bit about the history of FAX (and other ambientlabels)a while ago, she lives in my neighbourhood, do you still have contact with her Pete? It's thanks to Katrien's chill-out mixes that I got into the whole ambient and FAX-stuff. That lady opened my world during the 90s :-) And she's one of the friendliest and most lovely people I've ever met in the electronic music scene, she rules! :-)


    I saw Katrien Klausing few times... She is a really nice person and it is great that she introduced this music to a lot of listeners in a nice way.
    Belgium was indeed very important for me... NEWS was the key to my success.
  • nmlk over 8 years ago


    Articuno
    Articuno wrote:quote selection
    Thanks for the information about the limitations and being at least "half" loyal to your original collectors run by using new artwork and label name. It would be interesting also to have multiple limited runs of the CDs, then collectors could have the FAX version on 1 shelf, the AW on another shelf, etc. :D


    The reissues happen due to public demand. The limited editions are not "touched" by this. In the beginning a lot of different labels licensed stuff from FAX... so the limited editions were FAX and the licensed versions were of course unlimited. How "half" loyal is this in your eyes ? I don't get it. As some of the labels turned out to be non-trustworthy I found it was the best to reissue the music by myself on "AW" as my artists of course expected to be paid and were very unsatisfied with i.e. what "Rising High" did at this time.
    Since I do not license music to third party everything works out just fine. (I rarely have accounting issues with myself ;-))
  • nmlk over 8 years ago


    gandolfito63
    gandolfito63 wrote:quote selection
    Talking again about the re-releases,I think the one that should be repressed as soon as possible is DATacide II.It is the one that never is for sale anywhere,and the day one comes into the light,there will be just one Fax-lover that will have to pay an astronomic amount to grab it! Of course,I'm talking just from my point of view,the one of a frustrated-DATacide II-non-owner...I hope I'm not alone on this...


    Will think about Datacide II but I am not sure if there is a real "demand" on it... occasionally the question arises but is it really "public demand" ?
    If yes... I will release it on AW of course.
  • gandolfito63 over 8 years ago

    Thanks so much one more time,Pete! Well,I realise that real public demand can be sometimes a tricky affair.But taking just into consideration this site,it is on 103 wantlists right now,I guess it holds the record for Fax records here.The artists involved in the release are big names too,who have many lovers in these musical territoires,I think the repress,if only 300 copies,would sell pretty fast.But of course it's very easy for me or any other(except you) to say this,as we aren't risking any work/money.
    Anyway I'm very satisfied with the re-releases so far on AW,most of them are along my most beloved,and many of them were difficult to find and expensive to buy before re-release!
  • vladza over 8 years ago

    I second the Datacide II repress asap
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    Regarding Datacide II ... I will take this into serious consideration... will contact Uwe and Tetsu about it.
  • Nabusee over 8 years ago

    DATacide II is in my wantlist too. Would definitely buy it, if I could.

  • little_alien over 8 years ago

    nmlk
    That's part of the song... "scan failed" sound ;-)

    Aaah, from the "scanning the city for the 7th. spirit" sample, got it ;)
    nmlk
    This was in the past... at the moment I stick with the 300 and I am fine as my "AW corner" of my stock looks pretty tidy.

    Eek, that means I shouldn't wait too long with ordering them after they are released I guess.
    Nabusee
    DATacide II is in my wantlist too. Would definitely buy it, if I could.

    Putting it on my "to listen" list, people here seem very positive about it, but I've never heard this one. A Discogs have/want ratio of 84/103 must say something. The reviews on http://2350.org/ps31/ are all positive too.
  • Articuno over 8 years ago

    How about DATacide I along with it? They're both rare now.

    All I meant by "half loyal" was that, while you reissued "Limited Editions", at least you did it in a way that preserved the collectability of the originals. No offense meant. 100% loyalty would be refusing to repress entirely, but when given the opportunity not many artists can resist it.
  • Kracker over 8 years ago

    PROTIP: The first DATacide was on a completely different label.
  • La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago

    indeed, it's on POD

    DATacide II is really a great album. I also think it's the rarest FAX-cd as it even never pops up for sale anywhere, except once on ebay where I got it from + I was the only bidder, yes, the ONLY bidder, that's what I don't understand: everyone screams wanting it but no one bidded on it then (and it had NAMLOOK and FAX in de description so people should have noticed it). So I think it's all relative in the end. But whatever: it's very rare as I have only seen it for sale once in all these years.

    I.F. is also a very rare one althought it pops up for sale once in a while but it always goes for insane prices, also on ebay: I've lost the bidding 6 times already for that CD :-(
  • el_duro over 8 years ago

    I'd go for DATacide II and I.F. too (not on ebay though).
  • gandolfito63 over 8 years ago


    el_duro
    I was the only bidder, yes, the ONLY bidder

    The only bidder for DATacide II???! Did the auction beginn in 150 eur maybe?! I'm looking for this release since two years on ebay,and no one single auction,nothing at all...As for the I.F. one,I already lost 3 times on ebay,so I guess we were together there bidding...until the price was so insane we had to surrender one more time...
  • little_alien over 8 years ago

    Just listened to DATacide II for the first time, I'm afraid it's not my thing :( Sure, it's ultra rare and all, but musically FAX has more exciting releases I think.
  • La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago


    gandolfito63
    The only bidder for DATacide II???! Did the auction beginn in 150 eur maybe?! I'm looking for this release since two years on ebay,and no one single auction,nothing at all...As for the I.F. one,I already lost 3 times on ebay,so I guess we were together there bidding...until the price was so insane we had to surrender one more time...


    no it started at 35 EUR so I got it for 35 EUR.
    As for I.F. I guess you're right: we were bidding against each other :-) I think last time it ended for about 67 EUR, some months earlier it ended at more than 80 EUR, that's just too much for me I'm afraid.
  • Articuno over 8 years ago

    little_alien
    Just listened to DATacide II for the first time, I'm afraid it's not my thing :( Sure, it's ultra rare and all, but musically FAX has more exciting releases I think.
    I've never heard DATacide I or II, I'm very curious how does it compare with their 3rd and 4th albums?
  • vladza over 8 years ago

    I have Datacide I and it's mostly hard trance/ techno with a lot
    of acidic lines and as I recon, 2 beautiful ambient tracks a la Flowerhead.
    Very nice CD, but not enough ambient material.
  • vladza over 8 years ago

    And Datacide 4 is too IDMish for my taste, music dominated by Atom Heart more
    when Tetsu.
  • gandolfito63 over 8 years ago


    La_Monte_Old
    I think last time it ended for about 67 EUR, some months earlier it ended at more than 80 EUR

    And I remember another couple of times that ended above 100 EUR! Apparently(according to the seller)it was the same copy.The first winner sent it back because it had some minor default on the sleeve and it was reauctioned,and the second time ended with a very very high final price.
  • La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago


    el_duro
    I'd go for DATacide II and I.F. too (not on ebay though).


    why not on ebay? Do you prefer discogs with the artificial inflated prices? You've seen the I.F. here that is for sale? 115 GBP, rediculous!

    @ Articuno: DATacide II is not like DATacide I at all, it's very laidback chill-out album, f.e. the first track is beautiful beatless ambient. The other tracks have more beats but it's still with the focus on the chill-out aspect. You can compare it the most with Flowerhead I think.

    @ vladza: I don't like the 4 neither, it's indeed too IDM-ish. I would like to have DATacide I for the two ambient tracks but that makes it a very expensive CD then. I do have a vinyl from DATacide I which is hard banging acid, I play it a lot in my acid mixes. It's better to have such music on vinyl imho.
  • Articuno over 8 years ago

    I just listened to Flowerhead again, pretty good stuff, especially #4. I also wasn't a fan of Ondas, it seems a bit "empty" to me.

    I love buying on eBay. Can't reveal my secret strategies though. :)
  • gandolfito63 over 8 years ago

    I bought Flowerhead last week on ebay(just 6,24 EUR).For what I'm reading here,it seems to me that is has been an excellent purchase! Waiting for it to come...
  • gandolfito63 over 8 years ago


    Articuno
    I love buying on eBay. Can't reveal my secret strategies though. :)

    I love buying on ebay too.And I know the best strategy to win:to be reach!! Unfortunately,I still wait for my chance to test such strategy...
  • La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago


    gandolfito63
    I bought Flowerhead last week on ebay(just 6,24 EUR).


    that's a real bargain mate, congratz! You won't be disappointed, it's a very good album.
  • gandolfito63 over 8 years ago


    La_Monte_Old
    that's a real bargain mate, congratz

    Thanks so much,Moanerman.I followed your advice and I bought last week too the Superficial Depth one,very cheap here on discogs.I'll tell you when it comes and I listen to it.
  • Kracker over 8 years ago

    Yes i bought Superficial Depth as well. Hasn't arrived yet. I have Flowerhead tho and it's very good, i agree.
  • ilmar2350 over 8 years ago

    Hey everyone,

    Wow! I have just checked out the discussion group on here. It's great!
    I'm on the faxlist as well, but it seems a little dead unfortunately.
    Very nice to see this is alive \o/

    Listened to Superficial depth like 2 days ago lol, it's still fresh and great ambient! It's like a combination of JC1, Datacide 2 and Live at sel. Think of a lighter version of the deep synths from live at sell, a varient of the superb Streamline rhythm and some very nice emotional synth melodies and you have a pretty good idea what you can expect. Indeed, some very good ambient ;)

    Also heard Pascal Feos's Terra Bong, wow! Dang this is amazing stuff. Deja Vu and especially Makina blew me away! Maybe it's time Pascal should make his solo debut on Fax:)

    Unlike the rest, I like and own all Steve Stoll his solo works on Fax very much. They're very faxy imo, cause of the way he is composing his tracks, i.e. buildup, synths, etc. Especially "Earthling" is worth another shot! If I had the money I would send you all a free copy, honestly. You can always (re-)read my review on 2350.org about it.

    Thank you Pete for making this possible!

    Ps. Save a copy of 62 Eulengasse please, will order it in a couple of days!
  • alpet over 8 years ago

    @nmlk - Thanks for the PS releases, I think most of them are excellent. Lots of people here bemoan PS largely because the ambient crowd dominates the discussion. For my money Le Mar, Krystian Shek, Lorenzo Montana, Gaudi et al are absolutely fantastic. I listen to a ton of tech-house and Shek's stuff rates up there. What makes PS interesting and almost an automatic buy for me is you finding these virtually unknown artists such as Shek and Montana and having them pass your quality filter.
  • nmlk over 8 years ago


    alpet
    alpet wrote:quote selection
    @nmlk - Thanks for the PS releases, I think most of them are excellent. Lots of people here bemoan PS largely because the ambient crowd dominates the discussion. For my money Le Mar, Krystian Shek, Lorenzo Montana, Gaudi et al are absolutely fantastic. I listen to a ton of tech-house and Shek's stuff rates up there. What makes PS interesting and almost an automatic buy for me is you finding these virtually unknown artists such as Shek and Montana and having them pass your quality filter.


    .... and this filter is a very small one (if this is a correct expression in English). I have a lot of parameters that have to be fulfilled and one of them is -not- to sound like anything that I would have done... but still be in a realm that fits FAX.

  • jdcapshew over 8 years ago

    I tend not to write about music that I don't like much, but since you asked, there was that very active period in mid-late 90's when there seemed to be a couple of new CDs every other week sometimes following what was hot at the time. The Elektro, Amp, Kooler, Octopus and some DSOM's are seldom listened to by me since that time. And I just can't listen to theremin for more than a few minutes. Overall, I like what I hear in the past few years and the newest releases are mostly wonderful. I would like more ambient space opera stuff from the earliest days, but I don't like to get too stuck on the past when there's plenty of artists out there that can lead FAX well into the future. Perhaps even some electronica with prominent vocals too, though many of my friends will likely disagree with that.
  • nmlk over 8 years ago


    jdcapshew
    jdcapshew wrote:quote selection
    I tend not to write about music that I don't like much, but since you asked, there was that very active period in mid-late 90's when there seemed to be a couple of new CDs every other week sometimes following what was hot at the time. The Elektro, Amp, Kooler, Octopus and some DSOM's are seldom listened to by me since that time. And I just can't listen to theremin for more than a few minutes. Overall, I like what I hear in the past few years and the newest releases are mostly wonderful. I would like more ambient space opera stuff from the earliest days, but I don't like to get too stuck on the past when there's plenty of artists out there that can lead FAX well into the future. Perhaps even some electronica with prominent vocals too, though many of my friends will likely disagree with that.


    Thank you for your input... what do you refer to when mentioning "ambient space opera" ?
    electronica with prominent vocals is too obvious for me... there are labels who do this the most commercial possible way and I dislike it ... on the other hand there is nothing "new" left to be done in that area and I try to prevent creating the obvious.

  • jdcapshew over 8 years ago

    Sorry, Pete, I am non-specific quite a lot in real life and I'm worse online, so if this makes sense, "ambient space opera" to me would be sort of in the From Within/Fires of Ork/I.F./Deep Space Network vein that when you close your eyes and drift with the music the feeling is soaring through space. Sometimes it's gentle, slow and safe, other times a hurtling rush, yet nonetheless an otherworldly experience.
    For vocal music I would like the voice to be just another instrument, not the focal point, like a singer normally would be. No words, but atmospheric effects with a human voice.
  • nmlk over 8 years ago


    jdcapshew
    jdcapshew wrote:quote selection
    Sorry, Pete, I am non-specific quite a lot in real life and I'm worse online, so if this makes sense, "ambient space opera" to me would be sort of in the From Within/Fires of Ork/I.F./Deep Space Network vein that when you close your eyes and drift with the music the feeling is soaring through space. Sometimes it's gentle, slow and safe, other times a hurtling rush, yet nonetheless an otherworldly experience.
    For vocal music I would like the voice to be just another instrument, not the focal point, like a singer normally would be. No words, but atmospheric effects with a human voice


    Ah... ok I get it... this kind of releases will always be released on FAX...

  • TIM over 8 years ago

    Solitaire is my favorite FAX release of all time.

    In/Out is my favorite specific track.

    I'm sure Daniel Pemberton's Antartica would be a good release to re-release.

    FAX rules.

    Just curious Pete if you have any of the vinyl box sets that were signed by the artits.

    I saw one in 2002 go for only 300 dollars and I still kick myself I didn't get it.
  • little_alien over 8 years ago

    jdcapshew
    For vocal music I would like the voice to be just another instrument, not the focal point, like a singer normally would be. No words, but atmospheric effects with a human voice.

    Or spoken word over ambient like U V O I I - Sound Of Heaven :)
  • kompaktkiste over 8 years ago

    vinyl box sets

    i have a yellow box (front, inside pics), had some early pk's in it when i got it.
    what should be in there? not listed here yet..
  • jdcapshew over 8 years ago

    Bart! You reminded me of my least favorite FAX CD. Blaine E. Reininger coughed up a hairball on Sound of Heaven.
  • little_alien over 8 years ago

    jdcapshew
    Bart! You reminded me of my least favorite FAX CD. Blaine E. Reininger coughed up a hairball on Sound of Heaven.

    Haha, yeah a lot of people don't seem to like it. I like it just because of its weirdness. The violin, the "mumbo jumbo" words. At least it's a quite original concept ;)
  • La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago

    TIM
    Just curious Pete if you have any of the vinyl box sets that were signed by the artits.

    I saw one in 2002 go for only 300 dollars and I still kick myself I didn't get it.


    It's not worth the money, strictly for collectors, you can get all the vinyls for 5 EUR each if you want on discogs, you just pay big money for a signed paper box ;-) I got it for free a couple of years ago from a friend but I only played it once because most of the tracks are dated trance and hard-trance. I gave it away about a year ago to another friend who is a die-hard Fax-collector but even he had to admit that he never plays it, he just puts in on top of his expedit so he can show off with it to his friends :p

    But if you really want it, I might know someone who is willing to sell it. I'll check it out.
  • TIM over 8 years ago

    thanks ;)

    yeah i strictly want to be a show-off! no, seriously! lol

    btw i think it is awesome that pete has fires of ork for 55 euros while the other 2 prices are $175 & $250!!!

    YOU SHOW THEM PETE!!!
  • 24db over 8 years ago

    Pete, is there any chance you could play the Trautonium again on a future release? IMHO 'Retro Rocket' was one of the best albums of all time, especially the Trautonium on 'Nite Out'...brilliant!
  • nmlk over 8 years ago


    24db
    24db wrote:quote selection
    Pete, is there any chance you could play the Trautonium again on a future release? IMHO 'Retro Rocket' was one of the best albums of all time, especially the Trautonium on 'Nite Out'...brilliant!


    Thank you for your nice words... nice idea ... will look into it...
  • Bong over 8 years ago

    I'm curious about the EQ Tips release. It's the only release during that period that I know of that wasn't first released on FAX and then licensed.
  • nmlk over 8 years ago


    Bong
    Bong wrote:quote selection
    I'm curious about the EQ Tips release. It's the only release during that period that I know of that wasn't first released on FAX and then licensed.


    that is correct... Alex wanted it that way...

  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    Soooo... after a lot of input from your side there are consequences ;-)

    Next AW -> AW 060 Datacide II
    Next PK -> PK 08/194 Namlook - Pearl III
    Next RI -> RI 067 1i3835tra3um3

    Why another "Pearl"... the setup for this kind of music is extremely complicated. If I created something different inbetween details would be lost. For now Part III is the end of the "Pearl" creations.
    Will work with David soon on new Move D - Namlook releases... Burhan wants to come to my studio in April... session with Lorenzo has to be finished... my work on PK 08/190 to be continued... AMP III needs to be finished .. etc... etc... there is a lot in the pipeline.
  • 24db over 8 years ago

    Thanks for the update Pete, I'm looking forward to anything new from Lorenzo, I really rated his first release on FAX, it had to be the best album I heard all last year, bar Kettel's 'Myam James 2' CD.

    IMHO all Namlook/ Move D albums are a must...so that's another one I'll have to keep an eye out for.

    Time for some more Ikea billy storage I think ;)
  • little_alien over 8 years ago

    If you can still use Ikea Billy for your CDs it's not that bad yet ;)
  • vladza over 8 years ago

    Thank you Pete. Finally, I will listen the Datacide II and add to my FAX CD collection.How about Jochem Paap Vrs-Mbnt-Pcs 9598 (I) repress? This one is in a lot of people wantlist too.
  • little_alien over 8 years ago

    vladza
    Vrs-Mbnt-Pcs 9598 (I) repress

    Why not both?

    Pff on the other hand. I'll have to save money just to be able to buy the most recent Fax and AW releases already. Good thing I'm not interested in Datacide II ;)
  • La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago

    A lot of people will be happy with the repress of DATacide II I think. Pearl III ---> cool! I like both of them, the 1st one being my favourite for now. I'm wondering what PK 190 is, a new subconscious worlds would be great as the first one is simply brilliant. I think I'll pass for AMP, I didn't like the previous two at all, as for RI, I lost interest in that label years and years ago. A second repress for 2350 Broadway would be great, it hardly pops up for sale, even the repress on AW and the price of the one listed here on discogs is just too rediculous for words.
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    I just sent the master for "1i3835tra3um3" to the pressing plant ... it is a "very ambient" release... very calm and timeless... I really like it.... it is not very typical for the recent releases (of the past 15 years) from Atom™
  • jdcapshew over 8 years ago

    I very much look forward to 1i3835tra3um3 in that case. For me, I collect everything FAX & RI regardless, but it's particularly sweet to replay CDs many times over. Early Atom Heart is inspiring and timeless, the newer gets revisited by me as often as I would listen to Lou Reed's "Metal Machine Music" or Neil Young "Trans".
    Lots of folks will be thrilled about Datacide ll.
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    ... it is more like the early timeless Atom Heart with new "spirit" and years of production experience of course ... I recommend it for all who liked Orange and Datacide II
  • La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago

    hm, you make me curious about it then. It has been soooo long since Atom Heart did an pure ambientproject like he used to do sometimes in de 90s, that stuff is among my favourite ambient, he always had a very organic and warm sound. But damned, 1i3835tra3um3 ===> what a name! :p
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    HAha... you need to speak german and have a closer look... it is "Liebesträume" = dreams of love... I guess he found this title too obvious and tried to make it look "cooler"... but the real nature of this is really great Atom Heart "new" Ambient
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    Just received the message that a podcast mix of mine is live:

    http://bit.ly/bH7RmK

    Enjoy ;-)
  • jdcapshew over 8 years ago

    Oh yes, I figured that out(not) :-)
  • gandolfito63 over 8 years ago

    Thanks so much Pete for updating news.Wao,great news by the way with the re-release of DATacide II,and I guess I won't be the only one thinking this way...
    Very interested too in the newest Uwe's output on your label,if it is in the vein of Orange.About the strange name,I can only spot that "tra...um" (Traum)means "dream" in german,but no clue at all about the numbers,I'll work on it though...
  • Kracker over 8 years ago

    I second that Thanks for the news. I look forward to the future releases. Especially the release with Lorenzo.
  • little_alien over 8 years ago

    nmlk
    Just received the message that a podcast mix of mine is live:

    Cool, I know what will be playing at work today (if my colleague from across the desk doesn't complain, he's a hardstyle fan :P)
  • TIM over 8 years ago

    datacide 2 and 1i3835tra3um3 will be picked up most definitely. nice job pete
  • ilmar2350 over 8 years ago

    nmlk
    Soooo... after a lot of input from your side there are consequences ;-)

    Next AW -> AW 060 Datacide II
    Next PK -> PK 08/194 Namlook - Pearl III
    Next RI -> RI 067 1i3835tra3um3

    Why another "Pearl"... the setup for this kind of music is extremely complicated. If I created something different inbetween details would be lost. For now Part III is the end of the "Pearl" creations.
    Will work with David soon on new Move D - Namlook releases... Burhan wants to come to my studio in April... session with Lorenzo has to be finished... my work on PK 08/190 to be continued... AMP III needs to be finished .. etc... etc... there is a lot in the pipeline.


    Wow this is such big news! Very very nice =)) I can't wait for all these new releases. I mean AMP 3, who could ever guess AMP would actually get a follow-up! And another Sultan is even more awesome. Sultan is such an unique project and so wonderful.

    But but... since Mr. Uwe Schmidt went back to the more ambient side, isnt it time for maybe another Jet Chamber? =o
    Wouldnt that be amazing?

    Anyways, lots of new releases to pick up!
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    New releases AW 060, RI 067, PK 08/194 already at my place... shipping first orders ;-)
    Enjoy Spring !
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    to ilmar2350: Next Jet Chamber is in the making... ;-)
  • La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago

    Are there samples available for the Atom Heart? I don't want to purchase this one blindly.
  • stewwwwwaaarrrt over 8 years ago

    Boy, I step away from Discogs forums for a few years and I miss out on all the good conversations. :) Hi, Pete!

    For me, my Fax buying has necessarily slowed dramatically over the past few years due to circumstances... I had two children, switched careers entirely (being a children's librarian doesn't pay nearly as well as being a video game designer) and had to drop my radio gig in Chicago since we moved to Michigan. That said, I've tried to catch up on the newer releases, and there's a lot to like for me still. Namlook/Gaudi was GREAT, as was the most recent Testu Inoue solo disc.

    I've never been a big collector of the Move D/Namlook series, but mainly because I missed the first several when they came out and now there's SO MANY to catch up on. ;) I did like "There" and "Let The Circle Not Be Broken", though, so maybe I need to go back and try and catch up.

    as far as other stuff that fits the Fax feel, lately, I've been listening to a lot of Sending Orbs's stuff- it somehow hits that same emotional spot that the earlier Fax material did, especially Kettel and Secede. Also been keeping up with Digitonal, who never quite seemed to fit into any one spot.

    I found a lot of great related material through netlabels, too, although it seems the netlabel vibe is starting to fade a bit- a lot of formulaic material out there. However, net artists like Planet Boelex and Esem seem to pump out consistently great stuff. I got a lot of mileage out of the Merck label (RIP)... there was a period where that crunchy, beat-heavy IDM sound really appealed to me. I've also lately fallen heavily in love with the second coming of shoegazer rock and electronic pop music, like what the Ghostly International label is putting out. Not really Fax material, I suppose. :) Have any of these artists crossed your stereo, Pete?

    I still listen to ambient a lot, especially when my daughter goes down for naptime. "Seasons Greetings: Winter" is still one of the best naptime records ever made!

    Nice to hear about all of the reprints- If I didn't already have "Zenith" and "Datacide II" I'd be rushing out tho pick those up! I'd love to see some of the older, weirder ones coming back: The Putney, or I.F.. What's Peter Benisch doing these days? Also, Mat Jarvis (aka Gas, High Skies) has been active again lately. Seems like he'd be a good one to talk with. Imagine the trainspotter heads exploding with a Fax/em:t crossover. ;)

    I'll have to get some time to meet with Warren and finally finish the 2350.org overhaul we've been working on in fits and starts for 3 years now...

    -Stewart
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    to moanerman: sorry... no iTunes yet... uploaded.. but it will take a while to show up.
    here a link to the info if this helps: http://www.namlook.de/infos/RI067.html
    ... and I tell you ... it is really ambient... and it is really cool... but music is a matter of taste and I know what you mean;-)
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    Hi Stewart,
    I totally understand that it is easy to loose track with FAX ... but if it is too expensive to collect them all the time... iTunes is an alternative (but you know that for sure)... to see 2350.org being up again would be a dream come true for the community I guess... before taken for granted and then missed a lot ... a great time to go online again... I can imagine that it is a lot of work.... huge work... I am always happy when I manage to update my very basic html site...
    Thank you for all the hints into divere other musical directions and producers... mostly I listen to "old" stuff from the 60ies and 70ies... and try to do music in the time between... of course I listen to other music... but I must admit... a lot of beat-oriented stuff like... Pascal FEOS
    have to run now... all these orders... don't want to fall behind... :-))
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    Hi Stewart,
    I totally understand that it is easy to loose track with FAX ... but if it is too expensive to collect them all the time... iTunes is an alternative (but you know that for sure)... to see 2350.org being up again would be a dream come true for the community I guess... before taken for granted and then missed a lot ... a great time to go online again... I can imagine that it is a lot of work.... huge work... I am always happy when I manage to update my very basic html site...
    Thank you for all the hints into divere other musical directions and producers... mostly I listen to "old" stuff from the 60ies and 70ies... and try to do music in the time between... of course I listen to other music... but I must admit... a lot of beat-oriented stuff like... Pascal FEOS
    have to run now... all these orders... don't want to fall behind... :-))
  • TIM over 8 years ago

    TIM edited over 8 years ago
    @sushiphones: seeing as you dont post much on discogs i thought i would finally get a chance to say this here: your ratings on ambient releases are some of the most way off ratings on the site. any reason for ? ;)

    i have been around the site for years and whenever i see your ratings i cringe.

    even just going through alphabetically, example
    Aphex Twin, The* - Classics 2/5
    Aural Float - Introspectives 2/5
    Autocreation - Mettle 2/5
    B12 - Electro-Soma 2/5
    Carl Craig - More Songs About Food And Revolutionary Art 2/5

    i'm not saying those are all 5/5 but definitely 4/5 at least
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    Hi Stewart,
    I totally understand that it is easy to loose track with FAX ... but if it is too expensive to collect them all the time... iTunes is an alternative (but you know that for sure)... to see 2350.org being up again would be a dream come true for the community I guess... before taken for granted and then missed a lot ... a great time to go online again... I can imagine that it is a lot of work.... huge work... I am always happy when I manage to update my very basic html site...
    Thank you for all the hints into divere other musical directions and producers... mostly I listen to "old" stuff from the 60ies and 70ies... and try to do music in the time between... of course I listen to other music... but I must admit... a lot of beat-oriented stuff like... Pascal FEOS
    have to run now... all these orders... don't want to fall behind... :-))
  • little_alien over 8 years ago

    Refreshing the page after you have posted a message will post the message again. Old Discogs forum "feature" ;)
  • Legoguy over 8 years ago

    With regards to 2350.org being up, I have been running an alternative to 2350.org for a while now called FAXDB. http://faxdb.turbogfx.net/ There's a few things I haven't put in the database yet (Recent releases and MP3 releases, I'm still waiting for some in the mail) but everything should be there otherwise. I have provisions for taking reviews from listeners and posting them along with the info for each title as well.
  • stewwwwwaaarrrt over 8 years ago


    [quote=TIM][/quote]

    Heh. I don't know, man, it's been a long time since I listened to those. I'll have to drag them out and give them another shot.

    Electro-Soma in particular seems off. I don't know what I was thinking. :)
  • TIM over 8 years ago

    lol ;)
  • Kracker over 8 years ago

    Kracker edited over 8 years ago
    See i never trust the ratings on this site. Especially because of the shoddy 5-scale system.

    hey sushiphones bring back the random feature on 2350.org plz =)
  • ilmar2350 over 8 years ago

    nmlk
    to ilmar2350: Next Jet Chamber is in the making... ;-)


    Best FAX news from this year for sure!
    Geesh, Jet Chamber VI! :)) I really love JC I-V, they're all essential imo.

    When can we expect this release?

    Ilmar
  • ilmar2350 over 8 years ago

    nmlk
    of course I listen to other music... but I must admit... a lot of beat-oriented stuff like... Pascal FEOS


    The new Pascal FEOS release is a nice one, do you have other recommendations?
  • nmlk over 8 years ago


    ilmar2350
    When can we expect this release?

    Ilmar


    not scheduled yet...
  • nmlk over 8 years ago


    ilmar2350
    The new Pascal FEOS release is a nice one, do you have other recommendations?


    everything on FAX with him ;-)
  • ilmar2350 over 8 years ago

    I have heard all his FAX works ;)
    What I meant was other beat-oriented recommendations or things you have been listening to.
  • gandolfito63 over 8 years ago


    ilmar2350
    I really love JC I-V, they're all essential imo.

    I also like very much Jet Chamber I-III(the third is the best for me,first one coming very close)but I don't like at all JC IV-V.Another JC are great news but I hope I can listen to some clips before buying.It's the same for me with Outland and Air series.
  • La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago

    I really like JC I and II, the first one is the best for sure, the second one is worth owning for the 2nd track alone, what a beauty.
  • nmlk over 8 years ago

    to ilmar2350: His other solo-work (2 previous CDs are great too... but imo the actual one is the best)... I have recordings of his DJ sets from 2001 on ... incredible stuff... I guess some of them might exist on compilations mixed by him.. (don't have the details at hand... sorry... as he gives me often pre-mastered stuff to listen to)
  • teknosmoker over 8 years ago

    teknosmoker edited over 8 years ago
    nmlk
    nmlk wrote:quote selection
    Soooo... after a lot of input from your side there are consequences ;-)

    Next AW -> AW 060 Datacide II
    Next PK -> PK 08/194 Namlook - Pearl III
    Next RI -> RI 067 1i3835tra3um3


    Nice!

    Datacide II is really fantastic. I bought it when it was released and have continued to enjoy very much it to this day.
  • La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago

    Did anyone already receive Pearl III and the Atom Heart album? If so, how are they? Good, bad?
  • el_duro over 8 years ago

    La_Monte_Old
    Did anyone already receive Pearl III and the Atom Heart album? If so, how are they? Good, bad?


    I received the RI yesterday and after listening twice I'd say it's definately a good album. Not another "Dots" of course, but very very good.
  • taint over 8 years ago

    Now that Pete's a regular contributor to the forum I'd like to get his take on the thread(closed unfortunately) from the last year that's everyone's picks for who they'd like to see him collaborate with. Can you read through those suggestions Pete and comment if you were ever in talks with any of those folks about making a record together? Or if there are any artists listed that YOU wanted to work with but never pursued for one reason or another?
  • nerk over 8 years ago

    Id love to see DATacide (both) being re-issued on Ambient World, there certainly is demand for it from here. Hope you keep producing more ambient techno oriented works with the likes of Steve Stoll, Move D, Hawtin and Pascal FOES... oh, and Burhan Ocal would be great : )
  • richyhu over 8 years ago

    I had been aware of this group for a while, but had not really checked into the Discogs site for over a year so I was very pleasantly surprised to stumble across this topic yesterday.

    It's great to hear your thoughts Pete and to hear you talk about some of your motivations and the rationale behind label.

    It's also nice to see some names from the past (Jeff, Stewart, Kracker).

    My question would be whether there is any possibility that the Compilation Rare Vinyl Mixes, the Hearts of Space II track and True Colors that were only released on ITunes could be releases on Beatport either as Wavs or higher quality MP3/4?

    The aw releases over the last year have been great choices and I think many people who may not have the originals will be very pleased.. 62 Eulengasse and Datacide II are both great albums. I have no idea what would be good ideas for future aw releases in temrs of demand, but musically I would maybe go with 2350 Broadway 3 or Ozoona (I always thought this was fantastic) and to agree with those who already mentioned it - Zenith is another all-time favorite.

    Finally, I'm very excited to hear another Jet Chamber collaboration maybe on the horizon.

    - Richard

    PS: one last question - I was always curious to figure out the faces on the photos in the booklet on 1 Year Ambient / Dance. I could guess quite a few but there were always some I had no idea of...
  • La_Monte_Old over 8 years ago

    nerk
    DATacide (both) being re-issued on Ambient World


    DATacide II was repressed this month and DATacide I wasn't released on FAX so it won't happen I'm afraid.
  • nerk over 8 years ago

    I tried but i couldnt read the whole thread, just putting my enthusiasm for the reissue across so thanks for clearing up any confusion Moanerman, i'll certainly be on the case for this disk, i havn't bought anything on fax for ages unfortunately.
  • NolanCa over 8 years ago

    La_Monte_Old
    DATacide I wasn't released on FAX so it won't happen I'm afraid.


    On iTunes it actually lists FAX +49-69/450464 as having the copyright for this release.

    http://itunes.apple.com/us/album/datacide/id251654190
  • Kracker over 8 years ago

    whoa so i noticed for Pearl III only 300 copies were pressed.

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