• sjchal13 10 months ago

    Just a shot in the dark here. I currently have Labyrith 3 through 5 and am looking for the first two volumes without having to pay a small fortune. Does anyone have copies of either Labyrinth 1 or 2 they are looking to sell? If so, send me a message and let me know.
  • Jazzual 10 months ago

    I have all 5 but I'm not up for selling. However I did hear the odd rumour that these might eventually get a reissue, possibly on .txt but don't quote me on that!
  • jessfranco2 10 months ago

    I think txt will stay clear of the reissues of fax .Leave the labels legacy in peace and in one piece!!
  • gandolfito63 10 months ago

    gandolfito63 edited 10 months ago
    jessfranco2
    Leave the labels legacy in peace and in one piece!!


    Music (good music of course) should be easily available for as many people as possible.
    Fax is about contemporary electronic music,not about some obscure civilisation thousands of years ago lost and forgotten.
    What is happening since Peter Kulhmann's death is a shame.This way is precisely the best way for Fax to be soon a completely unknown label.
  • Jazzual 10 months ago

    It is a real shame that so many of the releases on Fax are either unavailable or unaffordable. So much of the music is in danger of becoming lost in obscurity.

    On the other hand any re-releases need to be fully above board and wherever possible agreed by the artists involved. As we know there is a certain label out there who have shown total disregard for Fax and the artists.

    I'd simply like to be able to access more of the Fax catalogue on CD and hope that the opportunity comes up eventually.
  • jessfranco2 10 months ago

    spot on jazzual..leave fax releases where they are unless something like dark side of the moog boxsets come along...i bought them..they look beautiful
  • sjchal13 10 months ago

    Thanks to the help of a fellow Fax-head here on discogs, I was able to obtain a copy of Labyrinth 2 for a reasonable price. That leaves just the first one to obtain. Maybe someday I'll be able to hear all 5 in 5.1 without spending a fortune to get the one that is for sale...
  • thirdsystem 10 months ago

    Jazzual
    It is a real shame that so many of the releases on Fax are either unavailable or unaffordable. So much of the music is in danger of becoming lost in obscurity.


    Absolutely.

    Really wish matters could be sorted out. Get the FAX music on bandcamp for goodness sake. Or even back on iTunes UK ( what the hell was that about removing it from the UK one when it is still on the US and other countries iTunes) Spread and grow Pete's legacy. It really is a damm shame.

    My hope is for IF to be available and also the Namlook/Moufang albums as I still have a few to acquire and would really appreciate being able to download them. I am not hopeful though :(
  • jessfranco2 10 months ago

    third system..the problem is where the £ goes thats why its removed from itunes
  • sjchal13 10 months ago

    thirdsystem
    JazzualIt is a real shame that so many of the releases on Fax are either unavailable or unaffordable. So much of the music is in danger of becoming lost in obscurity.

    Absolutely.

    Really wish matters could be sorted out. Get the FAX music on bandcamp for goodness sake. Or even back on iTunes UK ( what the hell was that about removing it from the UK one when it is still on the US and other countries iTunes) Spread and grow Pete's legacy. It really is a damm shame.

    My hope is for IF to be available and also the Namlook/Moufang albums as I still have a few to acquire and would really appreciate being able to download them. I am not hopeful though :(


    I'm not sure about other fax releases, but Lorenzo Montana has all of his fax releases (as well as all the Labyrinth albums, though sadly no 5.1) on his bandcamp: https://lorenzomontana.bandcamp.com/
  • foojar 9 months ago

    Who gets the profits from the sale of FAX label music (that would have originally gone to Pete Namlook and the artists)?
    Surely whoever owns the FAX label since Pete's death must be losing out on a lot of money by refusing to release the music. Likewise the artists are also losing out on their royalties. More importantly, fans are missing out as well.

    From comments in another thread, it appears that some of the FAX music is being pirated and is of dubious quality, yet nothing is being done about it. Most FAX albums are available to listen to or download from Youtube for free, although the quality will probably not be the best - fine for listening to via headphones on the go, but not for a sound system. If people can’t buy the genuine article, they are going to get it by other means. How many people that get the music from Youtube will bother to actually pay for an album if it is then re-released later?

    I was lucky in that I bought a lot of the FAX music through Pete as he released it (I love the DTS) and through his back catalogue. However there are a few albums that I’ve downloaded from Youtube because they are unavailable to purchase anywhere without paying exorbitant rip-off prices. I would buy them if they were officially available again at normal cost.

    Although I prefer an actual CD, I’ve been forced to use Bandcamp to buy music online because a lot of the music I want seems to only be available from abroad, with high p&p costs and, if totalling more than £15, will attract and extra 20% VAT and around £10 Royal Mail fees. I am pleased with Bandcamp and have bought a lot of music from there, most of it albums that I would never buy normally. Bandcamp seems to be the ideal place for the FAX catalogue to be made available.

    Until things are sorted out, all this is money lost to someone!
  • thirdsystem 9 months ago

    FAX that is available at bandcamp -

    Lorenzo Montana with Pete
    Aerial Service Area
    Material Object - Elektronic etc
    Fires Of Ork
    Mick Chillage - Faxology
    AOC 1

    Any more ?

    It would be interesting to know how the funds are being distributed by beatport and the foreign iTunes that still have FAX on their sites. Not that I want them removed btw !!!! Just get it back on the UK one for goodness sake. I recall Dave Moufang on here a while back rightly bemoaning the state of things. He for one is missing out on a lot of income from his music with Pete I suspect.

    PS the beatport prices are way ott once you add on vat and the current exchange rate for dollars. The exchange with euros is also a factor at the moment so this applies to bandcamp also when vat is also added. Think some folk should price their downloads in pounds sterling and help us U.K. Folks out ;).

    Seriously hope we get FAX sorted out and back in the groove for folk to purchase. Why not ? What's happening? Nothing it appears , very very sad indeed.
  • foojar 9 months ago

    Of the Bandcamp list shown, I dont have Aerial Service Area - Aerial Service Area and Firess of Ork 1, so I’ll look at a download of those, thanks.

    Bandcamp is showing the Labyrinth CDs as DTS. I don't know if these means just the actual CDs or if the download version is also in DTS. They're not recognised as DTS when streamed from Bandcamp from the page.
    1 - 3 CDs are sold out, with 4 and 5 almost gone. However, the CDs are expensive at 40 Euros each (£34.06) plus another £4.26 p&p. I'm not sure how the seller can justify such a high price. Luckily I bought all the 5 Labyrinth double editions from Pete at the time they were issued.
  • jessfranco2 9 months ago

    the labyrinth cds are worth every penny imo
  • gandolfito63 9 months ago

    When I buy something I want something on my hands.I don't think bandcamp is the solution for Fax or for music in general, all the opposite I fear il will definitely kill the music industry.And when nobody will dare to release physically except the "big ones" (therefore just mainstream music) bandcamp will become as expensive or more than the normal price of a today's normal CD-release.The trick is so obvious that it is very surprising there are people so enthusiastic about bandcamp (and virtual downloads in general)
    Klaus Schulze & MIG showed very clearly the path for Fax music to be re-released.Beautiful Boxes with many Fax albums inside each one,and sold at very affordable prices.Specially for Fax music that makes perfect sense as there are so many "Series" inside the label.But it could be done also by musicians,by years,by musical genre,etc.
    I don't think the label daring to do that will win a fortune but it was never about becoming rich releasing non mainstream music.
    The big question is Who owns the rights for re-releasing Fax music.And probably there isn't a unique answer,but multiple depending of each release,each musician...who knows? Who wants to inform? An who wants to change things?
  • amoe 9 months ago

    I would buy digital releases of FAX if they were much cheaper than CDs. A USB box set model, like txt do, would work well for the FAX back catalogue in my view. It could be released 10 or 20 catalogue numbers at a time. I don't have the cash to come to terms with FAX reissues at full price -- I've got little idea what I like and what I don't like, and somehow listening to the youtube versions just seems a bit wrong for something like Fax. I think that stuff like this needs to be experienced in high quality, especially for the first time.

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