• 80021170ffff 10 months ago

    apologies if this has been covered but does anyone know about any plans to reissue Peter's work? (most likely digitally). or are we to expect that the availability will remain as is? tbh there's a kind of dignity in an artist having their work remain as they left it.
  • thirdsystem 10 months ago

    I would like a FAX bandcamp site ;) Doubt it will ever happen but would be a wonderful way for people to access Pete's music and legacy. Would also be great for all the FAX artists to get some income for their music.

    Let's face it , it's an expensive interest these days.

    Just imagine if we could acquire downloads of stuff like I.F. and the really difficult things to get hold of.
  • Kracker 10 months ago

    The rights to the Pete’s work is still up in the air as far as we know. Stuff like this happens all the time, usually to individual albums, where things are locked up for years upon years but in this case it’s with an entire catalogue with very limited releases. Pete hadn’t made a will concerning his work and had unsettled finances so this could take quite a long time
  • gandolfito63 10 months ago

    The chances of Fax music being reissued diminishes each day.Even if the actual rights status is somehow unlocked one day, there is also the problem of financial viability, the sad reality being that just an extremely tiny group of people is interested in this music, specially speaking about young people or newcomers to the general market of electronic/ambient music.
    Just an example which is mentioned above: I.F. How many people would be really interested in purchasing a reissue for say 15 eur? I doubt there are 100 people in the whole world and yet I''m talking about one of the most sought-after releases of the whole catalog. How many then would buy a reissue of Outland IV, UVOII or Gorn?!
    Fax music is doomed into oblivion.And such big giants of ambient&electronic music like Inoue or the very same Namlook live only in the hearts of those who experienced and intensely enjoyed the Fax label when it was fully alive,with a very few (and most welcome!) exceptions.
    So sadly I'm very pessimistic.Wish I could say somehing else.
  • player 10 months ago

    My advice! Just buy what you can get your hands on.
  • novymir 10 months ago

    What about Pete's family? Maybe someone could setup a trust a la Zappa, and license the recordings to someone else that would honor Pete's legacy.
  • thirdsystem 10 months ago

    gandolfito63
    Fax music is doomed into oblivion.And such big giants of ambient&electronic music like Inoue or the very same Namlook live only in the hearts of those who experienced and intensely enjoyed the Fax label when it was fully alive,with a very few (and most welcome!) exceptions.
    So sadly I'm very pessimistic.Wish I could say somehing else.


    Sadly I fear this is true. Utter disaster Pete passing so young, so much more to offer. I think about this and his FAX music every single day of my life. Still gutted and always will be. So sad to see this music and label seemingly fade away. Never for me though. The best. Wish I had discovered it earlier 90s but life chaos with bairns, wife, family, etc and Prog Rock diverted me from the true way.

    So glad and privileged I have been able to catch up on his label and music.
  • Kracker 10 months ago

    Kracker edited 10 months ago
    gandolfito63
    Just an example which is mentioned above: I.F. How many people would be really interested in purchasing a reissue for say 15 eur? I doubt there are 100 people in the whole world and yet I''m talking about one of the most sought-after releases of the whole catalog. How many then would buy a reissue of Outland IV, UVOII or Gorn?!

    gandolf, there's a LOT of music not worth the 15 EUR reissue, and that's why we have bandcamp and digital releases now. The whole catalog can be put on bandcamp but there's no one to handle it, things are legally tied up, and Pete never made arrangements. David Moufang has already expressed that much in a post he made about the situation. It's just going to take a really long time. And like I said, we've seen this happen before where things go out of print for decades due to rights. The music still exists so it's not "doomed to oblivion" just because it's not around right now.
  • gandolfito63 10 months ago

    I envy your optimism,Kracker. I agree that "doomed into oblivion" sounds quite terrible but please think (easy to guess) about the more or less average age of most of us enjoying Fax music for decades now.Maybe I'm wrong but I don't think there are many under let's say for example less than 30 years old, therefore no new generation of Fax-addicts.
  • Kayashi 10 months ago

    gandolfito63
    therefore no new generation of Fax-addicts.


    I (sadly) agree. I've only small or even no hope that "Namlook" will be available for next generations of music lovers. Maybe in combination with other artists (like DSOTM), but not the huge catalog, Pete did on his own.

    Keeps me wondering how often something like this happend in the past, with artists kind of "disappearing" like that.
  • gandolfito63 10 months ago

    Keeps me wondering how often something like this happend in the past, with artists kind of "disappearing" like that.[/quote]

    I know of another example of a very fine electronic musician.His name is Rüdiger Lorenz. Who knows him? Even among electronic music addicts he is very unknown and yet he released some very fine casettes and vinyls (most of them never released in digital format) back in the eighties,then he started releasing Cds as soon as the Cd-market was born and then he very sadly also died,almost 2 decades ago.
    It's a shame that most of his early works are unavailable on Cd and it's a shame that only an extremely small bunch of people (not precisely young people) know about his wonderful music and about him.
  • Kayashi 10 months ago

    Good Example! Didn't know him.
  • Kracker 10 months ago

    Kracker edited 10 months ago
    There is a newer generation of ambient music lovers, gandolf, In fact, here in my city we have an monthly ambient music night with live musicians and their modular systems, plenty of younger people show up. What's keeping the FAX catalogue from being accessible is the legal stuff, otherwise it would be on bandcamp or somewhere.

    Notice your Rüdiger Lorenz is another German composer who died while still making music and on his own label, much like Namlook. I mean, you see? There's probably no one to handle his work either. I did a quick check on Spotify and the only releases he has on there are albums also released outside his label. There's not much in terms of being able to hear his catalogue without buying the CD, which is essential for any artist these days.

    But point is, the music is there and it can always come back. Plenty of young people listen to music way before their time. Today, we are seeing stuff like 80's retrowave, synthwave making a resurgence. As long as the music is there, it's not going away, and with digital technology, its only going to get easier and easier to able to come back when people want it to.
  • gandolfito63 10 months ago

    gandolfito63 edited 10 months ago
    To Kracker: Maybe I am much pessimistic than you and possibly other people posting here because of the different enviroment.I mean, I don't know how big is your city but speaking about monthly ambient nights,modular systems,synthwave,etc,it would be a surreal issue even in Barcelona or Madrid, the biggest cities of my country with both more than 3.000.000 population,not counting huge numbers of tourists.If I speak about my city,with about 500.000,then it would be even much much more surreal.This is my cultural enviroment.Nobody gives a sh.. about musical culture, it's like trying to find an iceberg in the Death Valley in your country.
  • gandolfito63 10 months ago

    Coming back to R.Lorenz, I cannot recomend enouh to anyone truly interested in electronic music his only 2 early works which have recently been reissued on Cd: Invisible Voices and Southland.
  • 80021170ffff 8 months ago

    excuse me but Outland 4 is good.

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