• djlupu 5 months ago

    lloydforth1
    that voice over could have had someone with some passion and knowledge narrating it

    I see. It’s always a compromise regarding this I think. With a pro speaker the video is more accessible and relatable generally. I can see it not working for an expert like yourself. The first option was indeed the search team talking but unfortunately none of us was comfortable enough in spoken English. Anyway, I’m happy with the end result.
  • djlupu 5 months ago

    djlupu edited 5 months ago
    lloydforth1
    It really reminded me of those BBC short doc's my primary school teacher would wheel out on trolley with those ginormous VHS recorders underneath

    Sorry to hear about the trauma :-D But granted, this effect was actually somewhat intended and hopefully brought some irony into the mix (the search being taken a bit too seriously at some point). Edit: Consider it as a wildlife documentary about a rare specie called record collector.
  • Monodominical 5 months ago

    I understand all the voice over criticisms but come'on we made this documentary in few days (with day work) do you understand what that mean ? With unlimited deadline we would have surely done something more "professional" but since several people seemed to enjoyed it i'm 100% happy with the result.

    Actually we could have put the track id text on a black screen with music, this doc is an essential bonus from passionates to passionnates. My 2 cents ;p
  • dariozg 5 months ago

    before "the Day-D" (or night): wantlist: 14
    today: wantlist: 480
  • Monodominical 5 months ago

    For prosperity :
    https://ibb.co/rkjPwvr
    2 things : 9 Wants and in my wantlist for 3 years x)
  • dariozg 5 months ago

    on FB market... https://ibb.co/QYQL8n0

    2 copies sold in this 2 weeks (6euros per vinyl) to the same person...gues who? ;-)
  • Monodominical 5 months ago

    And ?
    Yes all the copies available have been sold before the reveal but don't you think it would have been worse if not ?
    Lupu put 2 copies on eBay 100% of the money goes to charity, he's not sharking at all.
    But when you will see some copies on the discogs marketplace for huge prices it won't be our fault

    Conclusion: Sharks are inevitable, we only managed to slow down them
  • konkordski 5 months ago

    No photo of Axel F?
  • PHAEAX 5 months ago

    lloydforth1
    When they said documentary, they really should have said elementary school video, that voice over was just painful to take seriously, Who ever made it had no idea what they were dealing with, it was sad how they glossed over WHY this moment in time was such a time capsule, not a single mention of the colourful people at the party. The video was part of a longer "communicate" ID hunt, yet no mention of the other kinds of records played back then or much context or interest in the people throwing the parties, It felt completely stiff and weird like a management consultant that made corporate video's ( back in the 70's) was made to do it


    The ONLY goal of this commercial 'Masterpiece' whas to hype this record to the hight it is right now.

    And they succeed :-)

    Keeping in mind that these guys worked a week day AND night with no fascillities and almost no sourcematerial - The Voice Over is a professional voice actor - who billed these poor guys.

    I really do have a lot respect for the effort they made.
    This docu maybe not going deep as you want to, but it really did serve it's purpose.

    And also because of the benefit of these 2 records up on ebay the 'Native indians of America' are now all driving a Ferrari - How cool is that?
  • Myonas 5 months ago

    ItaloThomas
    About time to start a new hunt: https://youtu.be/iQUShlStZbQ


    Hey, it's an upcoming edit from one of our friends, should be out on our next release called Native Dance 02. Will send you the link here when the pre-orders go live.

    Cheers!
  • djlupu 5 months ago

    konkordski
    No photo of Axel F?

    No, he didn’t have photos to share.
  • Aftering_at_my_way 5 months ago

    Aftering_at_my_way edited 5 months ago
    Geronimo is screaming for a reissue

    Imagine, a double "12 in a nice gatefold sleeve and the story (of track & re-discovery) completely written out in the gatefold. I'm sure it will be possible to obtain a few 80's pictures from Axel and maybe he remembers a bit more info too in the meantime. 1 record with the original versions, and 1 record with a few modern remixes/edtis.

    Who know's, maybe Axel would even be open to try another electronic production, just for fun. He might not be in electronic music, but hey, it seems he also wasn't in the past and still made this Geronimo track somehow..
    On the complete B-sde of the second record you could even put the audio recording of narrater in the video. Just to make it unique, would be fun.

    No worries to make sales figures here to make it worthwhile and not loose money, but more importantly a big smile to many music lovers' faces. The lockdown record.. That would be special, plenty of opportunity here.

    Let's face it, while the original recording might indeed be found on flea markets in Germany, this is most probably not a record that was pressed in the thousands back then, so chance we will enjoy this on our record players one day is very small, if it isn't for a proper reissue. The original masters might not exist anymore, but ok how much records are made these days based on digital recordings. Hundred of thousands.. With a good pro-mastering, magic can be done
  • konkordski 5 months ago

    djlupu
    I had the song „Witchy Woman“ from the Eagles debut 1972 – unconcously - in mind. I found it out later.


    Geronimooo...Coooming in the air tonight! ;)
  • Monodominical 5 months ago

    You're totally fantasming Phaeax, there wasn't hundred of records for sale...
    I really don't get your state of mind but i take it more like trolling than being a hater
  • PHAEAX 5 months ago

    Monodominical
    You're totally fantasming Phaeax, there wasn't hundred of records for sale...
    I really don't get your state of mind but i take it more like trolling than being a hater


    It's not about the amount of records available, and it has nothing to do with trolling.
    This has everything to do with decency among fellow collectors.
    It's all about the princeple of sharing music as I stated earlier.
    When someone has info about a record that is hunted by everybody is keeping it to himself and buys every record ahead before releasing info with a big show, to sell these records for a lot of money on ebay and by this action pushes every other record in the future way above it's normal price... That's just stupid.
    And you were part of this, so I do understand that you need to justify this for yourself.
    These are not fantasms, these are facts.

    Bon soir mon ami!
  • Analogicfriend 5 months ago

    I believe after this period of hype, and since this was not a so rare release, and not every sellers or shop is so interested in Goa stuff, we could find it at 20-30 euros, maybe next year, I hope
  • tekknoveteran 5 months ago

    PHAEAX . without Lupu and Monodominical the track ID would still be a total mistery.
  • MusicalHusky 5 months ago

    I spent SO many hours looking on Discogs, I thought I had covered 1986 too, but didn't think of it as being 'synth-pop'. That is the main genre I collect too! Jut thought of it being euro-something, so that was the direction of my search. Just glad it was found. I would dearly love a copy, original or reissue I don't mind.
  • phasers2stunna 5 months ago

    PHAEAX
    This has everything to do with decency among fellow collectors.


    The fact that you believe that there is anything other than pure greed motivating the act of record collecting is an incredibly naiive take. We are all hoarders who mentally get off on the thrill of discovery, and off clout from sharing our scores on social media, in the DJ booth, and in the marketplace.

    Here’s a thought experiment: If any of us found two copies of a high-demand record in a bargain bin, would you leave one there for another collector out of ‘decency’? I wouldn’t, but that is what you’re expecting people to do in this case.
  • hxorama 5 months ago

  • PHAEAX 5 months ago

    PHAEAX edited 5 months ago
    tekknoveteran
    PHAEAX . without Lupu and Monodominical the track ID would still be a total mistery.


    That's true, and for that I have been greatful, I also did admit in the first place that my asumption of the track being a Home-made mix was wrong.
    No issue about that.

    But to discover a track doesn't justifies the fact to buy EVERY available copy ahead.

    phasers2stunna
    :
    I do agree partially, and I understand your point of view. Life is not fair and sometimes there is nothing wrong in being egoistic once in a while.

    But, There are some forummembers who do know that when I ever found a collection full of treasures I did call them to share.
    When I find a double treasure I hand it over to my fellow collector with a smile.
    Not everybody is an egoistic prick.
    As said before 'music is to be played and shared otherwise it's meaningless.

    And in life you'll reap what you saw.

    I'm also getting sick of those wankers who are covering their labels and all that kind of Bullshit.
    Trying to be the hip poser on a party with records they don't want to share because they feel like being king of the world with records I was spinning allready when they were swimming in their fathers nuttsack - but that's another topic.

    Hang loose! X
  • ItaloThomas 5 months ago

  • Mathiasfromaustria 4 months ago

    gaston.nony
    hey guys,

    https://wetransfer.com/.../ff46b362c17bd67ac9bba41.../8b7713

    full rip of the release
    regards from kollectiv community <3


    Link is not working ..
  • Aftering_at_my_way 4 months ago

    Thank you so much for this, nice quality also it seems. Great!
  • hysteric 4 months ago

    thanks a lot <3
  • ipoerner 4 months ago

    Awesome, thanks a lot!
  • Mathiasfromaustria 4 months ago

    Thank You :-) !
  • stimmungskanone 4 months ago

    TheArtlessCuckoo
    Hi everybody,I am speaking on the behalf of recording rights owner Mr. Cremer of Eichhorn Records (we previously licenced a track from him by The Poptown Syndicate in 2018) as well as the composer, Mr. Frey himself. Herewith, I am happy to announce that the master tape of the original release has been found. It will soon be digitalized at a mastering studio in Cologne. There will be an official and legitimate vinyl repress with full art as soon as possible for a fair/standard 12" price with picture sleeve. Please note that it will be re-released directly on Eichhorn and NOT via our label, we are simply taking over the production. The distribution will be via Rush Hour and directly via Bandcamp (links should be available next week). Additional to the vinyl pressing we are about to release this digitally. I hope this is good news to anyone! By the way, many or most copies of the original pressing were destroyed a couple of years ago, so it is unlikely that backstock copies of this item will still appear somewhere. Congrats to those that could still obtain an original pressing for cheap or may still find it somewhere in a 2 Euro flea market box.Thanks,John of The Artless Cuckoo
  • e-control 4 months ago

    thanks for update, weekend is saved :-)!
  • djlupu 4 months ago

    Just to make things clear: The search team who "found" the record and produced The Search for Geronimo documentary video has no involvement in any repress or reissue activities. Thank you very much.
  • Aftering_at_my_way 4 months ago

    good news! Looking forward to that reissue
  • Diman-Italoboy 4 months ago

    Song 2.5\5 points! i will not pay even 20 euro
  • claudio_simonetti 4 months ago

    Diman-Italoboy
    Song 2.5\5 points! i will not pay even 20 euro


    Good to see you have returned!
  • maltese 4 months ago

    Diman-Italoboy
    Song 2.5\5 points! i will not pay even 20 euro


    Who cares?
  • Diman-Italoboy 4 months ago

    maltese
    Diman-ItaloboySong 2.5\5 points! i will not pay even 20 euro

    Who cares?


    many) my words like hypnosis )
  • maltese 4 months ago

    Diman-Italoboy
    malteseDiman-ItaloboySong 2.5\5 points! i will not pay even 20 euro

    Who cares?

    many) my words like hypnosis )


    Well, you do have the ability to draw people's attention.Not for the right reasons, but still...
  • cerebral 4 months ago

    Glad to finally see this solved after following it for years. I think a big element of the intrigue over this song was the video, seeing the track being played in context at the time in the wild really connected with people. And it's being re pressed, so no heartache for anyone!
  • TheArtlessCuckoo 4 months ago

    Hello there!

    The official pre-order of Geronimo is now available:
    https://eichhorn.bandcamp.com/album/geronimo
    Updates will be posted here:
    https://www.facebook.com/theartlesscuckoo

    The tracks were remastered from original tape by Frederic Stader and sound fantastic. Actually, the tape version even had a few extra seconds at the outro, so the vocal version is now 7:16 minutes. To tease you a bit, the download of the instrumental mix as well as the shorter versions will automatically release next friday. The download will include (hidden) bonus alternative masters of both extended versions with more dynamics (more suitable for mixing). The limited red transparent vinyl pressing should be available mid July and can be pre-ordered right now.

    We want to thank the search team who found the record and produced the documentary video. It is obvious that without them the reissue would never have been arranged.

    Thanks,
    John of The Artless Cuckoo Team
  • e-control 4 months ago

    big thanks to all involved, lucky to own a reissue soon,
    only thing missing is black vinyl, but you can't have everything i guess..
  • TheArtlessCuckoo 4 months ago

    e-control
    big thanks to all involved, lucky to own a reissue soon,
    only thing missing is black vinyl, but you can't have everything i guess..


    Yes, we thought about simply pressing on black vinyl again - if there will be a second pressing (which is totally unsure at the moment) it might be black or blue. For now you have to deal with the red :)
  • fox 4 months ago

    Was the red color chosen for a reason?
  • Monodominical 4 months ago

    TheArtlessCuckoo
    Actually, the tape version even had a few extra seconds at the outro, so the vocal version is now 7:16 minutes.


    Wow ! Can't wait to hear the outro :D
    Good job that's a very proper repress !

    edit: oh actually we can already hear it on bandcamp nice !
  • digital_force 4 months ago

    TheArtlessCuckoo
    with more dynamics (more suitable for mixing). The limited red transparent vinyl pressing should be available mid July and can be pre-ordered right now.

    We want to thank the search team who found the record and produced the documentary video. It is obvious that wit


    Very nice. Is this a bandcamp exclusive or it will be available on other retailers? (juno, clone etc..)
  • TheArtlessCuckoo 4 months ago

    digital_force
    Very nice. Is this a bandcamp exclusive or it will be available on other retailers? (juno, clone etc..)


    Yes, it will be available through our digital distribution via all common retailers - but possibly with a bit of delay. Usually, the digital retailers ask for a few weeks lead time. But I expect that Juno and Spotify will have it available next Friday. The "dynamic master" versions will be exclusive to the Bandcamp download however.
  • TheArtlessCuckoo 4 months ago

    Monodominical
    Good job that's a very proper repress !


    Thank you for the kind words! Yes, we did our best to make the repress sound as good as possible! The longer outro is really nothing major, but still it was surprising to notice that the vinyl version had been faded out a bit earlier...
  • TheArtlessCuckoo 4 months ago

    fox
    Was the red color chosen for a reason?


    The red colour simply fitted the artwork the best. And we thought a coloured pressing would keep it easier to distinguish from the original pressing. I know that there are people that prefer black vinyl (including myself for the most part, ha), but well, it shouldn't be a difference in sound quality and I personally think it will look pretty nice in this case.
  • konkordski 4 months ago

    Is the short instrumental the b side of the 7 inch with also a longer fade or it's a different version? It shows some extra timing in comparison.
  • Aftering_at_my_way 4 months ago

    Top news, pre-ordered
  • wiz_of_oz 4 months ago

    Aftering_at_my_way
    Aftering_at_my_way about 2 hours ago
    Top news, pre-ordered


    +2
  • Krisu72 4 months ago

    I'm not big fan of that track but I will order when available due to story behind.
  • Diman-Italoboy 3 months ago

  • gijs_from_space 3 months ago

    Krisu72
    I'm not big fan of that track but I will order when available due to story behind.


    Same here
  • fox 3 months ago

    TheArtlessCuckoo
    foxWas the red color chosen for a reason?

    The red colour simply fitted the artwork the best. And we thought a coloured pressing would keep it easier to distinguish from the original pressing. I know that there are people that prefer black vinyl (including myself for the most part, ha), but well, it shouldn't be a difference in sound quality and I personally think it will look pretty nice in this case.


    Or blue or white or black.
    I wondered if this choice had any connection with native amerindian / Geronimo as for the sales of the 2 original copies, the benefit went for a native amerindian charity, as redskin is a [pejorant] slang term for Native Americans in the United States and Canada.
  • TheArtlessCuckoo 3 months ago

    Hi there!
    Another update about the Geronimo re-release:
    First of all: we just released the digital pre-order, all 4 original versions are available now for download. Additionally, there are two hidden alternative bonus masters with less compression of the extended versions.

    Vinyl: The interest in the reissue and the pre-sales on Bandcamp (it reached the top 10 in the vinyl electronic charts!) are strong, so there were a few slight changes in the plan: The 500 copies on RED vinyl will be mainly exclusive to Bandcamp. There will be a few selected online shops that will get some copies. If you are a record shop owner and still want to get some copies of the red vinyl pressing, please see info below. Furthermore, the maximum quantity on Bandcamp per customer is two copies from now on, sorry. As a special bonus each Bandcamp customer will receive an additional Geronimo flyer or postcard along with the red vinyl pressing.

    Due to multiple requests about a pressing on BLACK vinyl there will be a second run of 500 copies. This pressing will be announced for sale soon. Likely on Bandcamp Friday next month. The black vinyl issue will also be available to shops. A repress in blue vinyl (as we suggested earlier) seems VERY unlikely at the moment. It's almost certain that we will stick to the total of 1000 copies (500 red and 500 black) and that's it.

    For wholesale requests: Please contact us via Bandcamp stating a link to your record store and the number of copies (of the black pressing) you would be interested in. As said, red pressing is mainly reserved, you can still ask though.

    Last but not least, a bad news about the delivery time: just two weeks after we had placed our order at the pressing plant, we were told that the delivery time will be at least 4 weeks longer. So approximate delivery time for the red vinyl pressing will be mid to late August, the black issue should be available maybe two weeks later. Apologies for that! Right now we are eagerly waiting for the test pressing cut!

    Thanks for reading and to anyone that has purchased yet!
    The Artless Cuckoo/Eichhorn Team
  • TheArtlessCuckoo 3 months ago

    Hello!

    As announced in our last post, the black vinyl issue is now available via Bandcamp:
    https://eichhorn.bandcamp.com/album/geronimo

    Maximum quantity per customer is 2 copies! If you have already ordered the red vinyl pressing, you can only order 1 copy of this black edition. If you have a pending order we can combine shipping costs and will partly refund overpaid charges when items will be shipped.

    Thanks!
    - The Artless Cuckoo/Eichhorn Team
  • Impressions_sonores 3 months ago

    Distribution still with Rush Hour ?
    Can't see it on their website...
  • Diman-Italoboy about 1 month ago

    Diman-Italoboy edited about 1 month ago
    can it be 1000 usd in future? who can tell?)
  • TheArtlessCuckoo about 1 month ago

    Here is another update about the Geronimo reissue:
    Unfortunately, due to circumstances at MPO pressing plant (I would rather call it horrible mismanagement!) the production would have been pushed back to a January/February 2022 (!) release date. Hence, the pressing had to me moved to a new plant (RAND Muzik, Germany), which will work with the mothers from MPO, which have already been produced. This will delay the release to approximately late SEPTEMBER or OCTOBER 2021. Hopefully, there will be no further issues.

    The quite unsatisfying official statement from MPO about the delay, which was sent out on May 19th (just one day after we had received the test pressing!), was this:
    "As you have seen, the vinyl market has experienced extremely strong growth, just as unexpected as it has been sustained for almost a year now. (...) ... in an unfavorable COVID context (...) impacts our productivity and induces very strong tensions on raw materials in terms of availability and costs, particularly on coloured PVC granules."

    We apologize for the delay, which was totally out of our hands.

    With best regards,
    The Artless Cuckoo/Eichhorn Team
    P.S.: By the way, the test pressing from MPO was just added to the database!
  • Impressions_sonores about 1 month ago

    Impressions_sonores
    Distribution still with Rush Hour ?


    ???
  • djlupu about 1 month ago

    djlupu
    Two copies of the Axel F. (2) - Geronimo 12" vinyl record have been put up for auction on eBay, using eBay for Charity. The auctions will go on for 5 days. 100% of the winning bids will be transferred directly to non-profit charity organizations mentioned below.

    PayPal Giving Fund and eBay for Charity Seller Donations programme have finally sent me official donation receipts for the two 100% charity 12" sales made in March. Public tracking links for both donations are available below.

    $357.00 USD to Native American Rights Fund:
    https://www.paypal.com/givingfund/donationtracker?transactionID=0H4034204V526941B

    £250.00 GBP to Joy Home for Children (Goa Outreach):
    https://www.paypal.com/givingfund/donationtracker?transactionID=4EF17842JT657243S

    Continuing the full disclosure: I still have one extra 12" copy which Mr. PHAEAX refused to receive for free that I will now sell either here on Discogs or on eBay to cover some of the postal costs from the search project. Thank you.
  • PeterMertes about 1 month ago

    djlupu
    djlupuTwo copies of the Axel F. (2) - Geronimo 12" vinyl record have been put up for auction on eBay, using eBay for Charity. The auctions will go on for 5 days. 100% of the winning bids will be transferred directly to non-profit charity organizations mentioned below.
    PayPal Giving Fund and eBay for Charity Seller Donations programme have finally sent me official donation receipts for the two 100% charity 12" sales made in March. Public tracking links for both donations are available below.

    $357.00 USD to Native American Rights Fund:
    https://www.paypal.com/givingfund/donationtracker?transactionID=0H4034204V526941B

    £250.00 GBP to Joy Home for Children (Goa Outreach):
    https://www.paypal.com/givingfund/donationtracker?transactionID=4EF17842JT657243S

    Continuing the full disclosure: I still have one extra 12" copy which Mr. PHAEAX refused to receive for free that I will now sell either here on Discogs or on eBay to cover some of the postal costs from the search project. Thank you.


    Kudos for doing this the right way. Respect. May all your records remain unscratched in the future and all your beers just the right side of chilly.
  • TheArtlessCuckoo about 1 month ago

    Impressions_sonores
    Impressions_sonoresDistribution still with Rush Hour ?

    ???


    Yes, Rush Hour distributed a few copies but possibly they are already sold out now. All further copies for shops are reserved at the moment.
  • Lustikuss 10 days ago

    Man, the price is crazy!
    I am looking forward to the repressed vinyl!

    Sorry for not anwsering some messages. I had a few private (corona) problems in this time, when the track was found.
  • djlupu 10 days ago

    Lustikuss
    Man, the price is crazy!
    I am looking forward to the repressed vinyl!

    Sorry for not anwsering some messages. I had a few private (corona) problems in this time, when the track was found.

    I didn't sell my spare 12" original copy yet.

    Please provide your shipping info privately to receive your (free) copy in August. Thank you very much.
  • dariozg 9 days ago

    well, We're waiting "SEPTEMBER or OCTOBER 2021" for this new re-release...

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