• marcelrecords over 6 years ago

    :-) that was exactly what I was suggesting :-)
    Still, this makes no sense and is a left-over from the times electronic was god here. While new styles are incorporated, this anomaly may as well get the boot. How should a new user fathom this?
  • G.Monk over 6 years ago

    Rave is the event not the music.


    What about the music produced / released by WestBam, Marusha, Members Of Mayday, Raver's Nature, Hardsequencer, Dune?

    We've always called it "rave" here in the Netherlands and didn't had another style for it. But maybe the same goes for club/clubhouse. It still is and always has been an electronic style over here. For example Klubbheads, DJ Jean, Erick E and Olav Basoski. I always place the releases under the term "house", but to me it's still "club" or "clubhouse".

    I even can imagine that some people want a style called "mellow" to be added to the electronic styles. :)
  • Kergillian over 6 years ago

    I've always known it as Rave music here as well...and there are a bajillion releases in the db that refer to themselves as Rave music...
  • TechElec over 6 years ago


    Kergillian
    I've always known it as Rave music here as well


    Yeah but you thought Discogs was a 'Techno only' website for the first few years.
  • Jayfive over 6 years ago

    G.Monk
    What about the music produced / released by WestBam, Marusha, Members Of Mayday, Raver's Nature, Hardsequencer, Dune?


    Techno. Very poppy, cheesy techno. And/or very poppy cheesy hardcore :)

    G.Monk
    For example Klubbheads, DJ Jean, Erick E and Olav Basoski. I always place the releases under the term "house", but to me it's still "club" or "clubhouse".


    Style: Hard House, Trance.

    G.Monk
    I even can imagine that some people want a style called "mellow" to be added to the electronic styles. :)


    :P

    Wasnt that more or less a term of abuse?
  • Kergillian over 6 years ago


    TechElec
    Yeah but you thought Discogs was a 'Techno only' website for the first few years.


    *rolls eyes* not that discussion again. The simple fact is that big chunks of North America use different terms. People here STILL refer to electronic music as techno - or even worse, 'techno/electronica'.

    And may I remind you that a lot of groups on the early 90s that are not considered techno considered themselves as such - like Technotronic ;)

    A lot of early hardcore and happy hardcore stuff in the early 90s was referred to as rave here or hardcore rave...stuff like DJ Scoobie/Hackney Hardcore, Undercover Movement, and the other Strictly Hardcore artists.

    I'm not saying that rave should be a style, I'm just saying that it was synonymous with a certain type of hardcore techno in the early 90s...
  • G.Monk over 6 years ago

    Jayfive
    Style: Hard House, Trance.


    Funny how each country has its own name for it. If you ask a dutchman what kind of style those producers make I guess everybody will tell you "club". :)

    Jayfive
    Wasnt that more or less a term of abuse?


    Abuse for what? :D

    Mellow was hippyhouse back in the early nineties. All about flowers, peace and love hahaha. I still love the term, although it never was a style (but I thought it was as a kid, because everybody used it....in magazines, television, radio...), because everything what wasn't hardcore/gabber was called mellow.

  • Zeroy over 6 years ago

    Electronic: Production Music. and Stage & Screen: Production Music
    There are so many Library music submissions and no Production Library tag.
    A lot of these releases are electronic with heavy use of synthesizers. Music De Wolfe, Editions Montparnasse 2000, Chicago 2000, Selected Sound, etc. We have scores of library releases but no Production Music as a style. That would save a lot of guessing and head scratching trying to figure out a next best. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Production_music
  • e-z over 6 years ago

    What happened to Nitzhonot? Not in the Electronic list any longer. However, the style is displayed on release pages..
  • TechElec over 6 years ago

    When will we get a final decision on which styles are being added?
  • rassel over 6 years ago

    soon !
  • Josephschembri over 6 years ago


    e-z
    What happened to Nitzhonot? Not in the Electronic list any longer. However, the style is displayed on release pages..


    Was added "by mistake". If you go and update a release displaying that style it will be automatically kicked off.
  • schtel over 6 years ago

    mmm I've only just realised that there is no Electronica as a style? Is this an oversight?
  • schtel over 6 years ago

    Also, whilst there is Techno and Minimal, can we not have Minimal Techno too?
  • consort over 6 years ago

    schtel
    Also, whilst there is Techno and Minimal, can we not have Minimal Techno too?

    Yeah man, thanks for reading ;-)
    it's in the queue - here's my awkward request:
    http://www.discogs.com/help/forums/topic/206535?page=2#2579656
  • schtel over 6 years ago

    consort
    Yeah man, thanks for reading ;-)

    Ha, I had a feeling that would happen just as I posted. I had a choice of reading the thread in full or having the info pointed out to me. Thanks for saving my precious time. :D
  • schtel over 6 years ago

    Actually, maybe it's best I read through this thread.
  • TechElec over 6 years ago


    schtel
    I had a choice of reading the thread in full


    CTRL+F 'Minimal Techno' on each page. Search done in seconds.
  • LadyBlacktronika over 6 years ago

    Any word what so ever about the schedule for these new styles to be added? I'm so itching to begin updating stuff.
  • TechElec over 6 years ago


    TechElec
    When will we get a final decision on which styles are being added?

  • Luigi499 over 6 years ago

    Style Name: Lento Violento

    Alternative Names: Slow Hardstyle, Slow Violent

    Genres: Electronic

    Description:
    Lento Violento is a style of electronic dance music that developed in Italy. Its name means Slow & Violent, as this style typically has a tempo between 70 and 130 BPM. It consists of a hard kick, like the ones present in Hardcore or Hardstyle, but played at a very slow tempo, with vocal samples and dark and acid sounds or loops.

    Examples - Labels:
    Tratti Sonori
    Noise Maker

    Examples - Artists:
    Gigi D'Agostino (IT)
    Dottor Dag (IT)
    La Tana Del Suono (IT)
    Lento Violento Man (IT)
    Luca Noise (IT)
    DJ Maxwell (IT)
    All artists from the 'MovimentoLento' series (Most of them are from Italy)

    Examples - Releases:
    Gigi D'Agostino - Lento Violento ...E Altre Storie
    Luca Noise - Potenza Adeguata
    Lento Violento Man - La Musica Che Pesta
    Various - MovimentoLento Volume 1 to 6
    Wender Feat Gino Lo Spazzino - Alpacaaa
    Gigi D'Agostino - At Altromondo Part II

    Associated Styles:
    Hardstyle, Deep House, Euro House, Techno

    External citations: - Wikipedia
    The first tracks with the Lento Violento sound were Ibiza by Ottomix (1998) and Alex Castelli's Enjoy, that was co-produced by Ottomix. Although at that time, they were not called 'Lento Violento' yet. These tracks were influenced by the more Techno and Trance-oriented tracks like Mauro Picotto's Lizard, Iguana, Pulsar, Tuttincoro or Raggattak by Joman (Joy Kitikonti), all from the Italian BXR label.

    While some individual tracks were popular in the clubs, the style itself was not established until DJ/producer Gigi D'Agostino started with a series of productions in 2003, like Ripassa. Indeed, he coined the name for this style, and he releases most of his Lento Violento songs on his own label Noise Maker, using aliases like Dottor Dag, Lento Violento Man, Uomo Suono, Orchestra Maldestra, or La Tana Del Suono, to distinguish these songs from his Italo dance work.

    Other artists started to create similar tracks after the success of this style. Also several compilation CDs are released with Lento Violento music, like the "Movimentolento" series.
  • LadyBlacktronika over 6 years ago


    TechElec
    When will we get a final decision on which styles are being added?


    Yes please. I wish we could get an answer. Its as though this has been wiped from the collective memory of Discogs.
  • djmushroom over 6 years ago

    i'd like GOSPEL HOUSE added to styles. it's a small but important sub-genre of house music that blossomed in the early 90s. from time to time there are new releases that fit the description.
  • TechElec over 6 years ago


    TechElec
    When will we get a final decision on which styles are being added?

  • 0frg over 6 years ago


    TechElec


    TechElec
    When will we get a final decision on which styles are being added?

  • caedo261 over 6 years ago

    Style Name: Ragga Jungle

    Alternative Names: Ragga, Raggacore, Ragga Drum & Bass

    Genres: Electronic

    Description:
    Ragga Jungle is a style of electronic dance music often credited with engaging the black community within the UK jungle scene. Very popular from the early to mid nineties, interest soon faded to the more technical and vocal-less drum and bass style. A resurgence around 2000 saw many North American producers putting their updated spin on the style that continues to this day.

    Examples - Labels:
    http://www.discogs.com/label/Jungle+Fashion+Records
    http://www.discogs.com/label/Rewind+Records+(8)
    http://www.discogs.com/label/Top+Ranking+Records

    Examples - Artists:
    http://www.discogs.com/artist/Krinjah
    http://www.discogs.com/artist/Soundmurderer+%26+SK-1
    http://www.discogs.com/artist/Twinhooker
    http://www.discogs.com/artist/Baby+Demo

    Examples - Releases:
    http://www.discogs.com/Various-Ragga-Jungle-Dubs/master/153097
    http://www.discogs.com/Krinjah-Return-Sound-Burial/release/267077
    http://www.discogs.com/Zajko-This-Is-Raggacore/release/1992031
    http://www.discogs.com/Various-Bloodclot-Ragga-Jungle-Vol-1/release/1115175

    Associated Styles:
    Dancehall, Reggae, Jungle, Drum & Bass, Breakcore

    External citations: - Wikipedia
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragga_jungle
    http://www.ragga-jungle.com/

    Though it started in the early nineties, I generally would only use this tag to identify the ragga jungle post-2000. There's probably some exceptions, but i personally consider the early to mid nineties stuff simply jungle.

  • digitalist over 6 years ago

    cosmic disco
    space disco
    minimal wave or minimal synth.
  • LadyBlacktronika over 6 years ago


    digitalist
    cosmic disco
    space disco


    Cosmic disco was a scene not a style but thanks for backing up Space disco.
  • Majus over 6 years ago

    Majus edited over 6 years ago
    Dark Step
    Tech Step

    Both are forms of Drum n Bass most typically found from mid to late '90s Rave Scene.

    http://www.discogs.com/artist/Snuggles
    http://www.discogs.com/artist/DJ+3D

    -----

    Noisecore

    http://www.discogs.com/artist/Senical (especially Senical - A Dark Raid Of Madness)
    http://www.discogs.com/label/Digitalhut+Sounds

    A variant of Hardcore Techno

    -----

    Though, I'm not convinced it's actually valid, but "TBM" or "Techno Body Music" is being coined these days to describe certain offshoots of EBM

    http://www.side-line.com/forum/threads.php?id=6566_0_20_0_C

    -----

    I also am on the bus for a generic "Electronica" style
  • Jarren over 6 years ago

    I know "Rave" is an event and not strictly speaking a style of music, but I really think it would suit the likes of Altern 8, early Prodigy etc. much better than what they are under currently; Hardcore or Breakbeat.

    Back in my schooldays there was only one name for it:

    Rave music.
  • Mr.Mystery over 6 years ago


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    I support this style wholeheartedly.
  • LadyBlacktronika over 6 years ago


    Jarren
    Rave


    I supported that idea as well but it was shot down pretty much unanimously.
  • Gabbahead over 6 years ago

    Rave is just an umbrella term (Hard Trance, Happy Hardcore...), no style at all.

    Noisecore is a Hardcore Punk/Noise mixture, Noizecore ("z") is Speedcore with Noise influence, but too micro to add it.
  • Majus over 6 years ago

    Majus edited over 6 years ago
    Gabbahead
    Rave is just an umbrella term (Hard Trance, Happy Hardcore...), no style at all.


    I remember my Scene going days. Back in those days any kind of music labeled as "Rave" was 90% of the time the fake stuff. To the people going to the underground parties, "Rave music" (in the United States, especially in the Upper Midwest) was for either the posers or the folks that sincerely wanted to be a part of the Rave Scene, but couldn't for varying reasons.

    I say 90% of the time because there are many compilations out there that are labeled as "Rave" that have a track or two by legitimate underground DJs/Producers/Artists within their tracklistings. I say legitimate because the other trash present on these compilations sound like people trying to reproduce the underground sound and instead making it sound like commercialized, processed, generic-sounding dance music.

    Also, Gabbahead is right. I've seen many releases from '88 to '95 labeled as being "rave" when in fact they are "New Beat" (for instance, early Lords of Acid material). I've even seen Electronica artists, even the Big Beat artists, labeled as "Rave."
  • Majus over 6 years ago

    Gabbahead
    Noizecore ("z") is Speedcore with Noise influence, but too micro to add it


    Ah, yes. Sorry, that was a typo above.

    Whilst it IS a small subgenre, it still has prominence. It would be better to have it so that applicable releases aren't mindlessly labeled as: Hardcore, Noise.

    If we were to have this discussion about "Cheapcore" or "Amigacore," I would wholeheartedly agree.
  • digitalist over 6 years ago

    digitalist edited over 6 years ago
    LadyBlacktronika
    Cosmic disco was a scene not a style but thanks for backing up Space disco.


    cosmic disco was and is not only a scene, cosmic is also a brandname under which for example compilations were released and a style.

    wiki says:

    Cosmic disco[1][2] (also called "Cosmic music,"[3] "the Cosmic Sound,"[4], etc.) is a style of dance music named after the "Cosmic" nightclub in northern Italy,[3] which the cosmic disco scene was centered around.

    many people also decide that current music productions could be titled as cosmic disco because they fit the style of original cosmic music... but the former scene barely exist anymore.

    cosmic disco or cosmic music were names which were also used long time after the the cosmic club was closed, mostly during the 80's in Germany, Swiss, Austria and Italy.

  • LadyBlacktronika over 6 years ago


    digitalist

    cosmic disco was and is not only a scene, cosmic is also a brandname under which for example compilations were released and a style.


    I mean it won't hurt me if its added. Someone else made a case for it but others rejected it. So I mean make another case for it.
  • LadyBlacktronika over 6 years ago

    Style Name: Afro-House

    Alternative Names: Afro Deep House

    Genres: Electronic

    Description: Loosely related to Tribal House but Afro House is more rooted in Afro-Cuban, Yoruba and South African cultures. It often has themes of Orisha worship or traditional South African cultural references. Where as Tribal House may borrow from some African rhythms it is not limited to African rhythms and may borrow from other indigenous cultures.

    External citations:
    http://www.last.fm/tag/afro+house
    http://www.afrodesiamp3.com/catalog/afro-house-c-100.html
    http://afroklectic.blogspot.com/2010/06/afro-house.html
    http://www.ustream.tv/channel/deep-s

    Examples:

    http://www.discogs.com/artist/Osunlade
    Yoruba Records
    Various - The Ultimate Afro-House Collection
    Yerba Buena* - Fever
    Cpen - African Jack Remixes
    Kentphonik Featuring Khensy - Hiya Kaya EP
  • Majus over 6 years ago

    I seriously think it's about time we have a "Post Industrial" style.
  • Mr.Mystery over 6 years ago


    Majus
    I seriously think it's about time we have a "Post Industrial" style.

    I seriously think you should elaborate that a bit.
  • Majus over 6 years ago

    Majus edited over 6 years ago
    Mr.Mystery
    I seriously think you should elaborate that a bit.


    You are going to have to excuse my ignorance because I am not involved with music production at all. Neither am I a gearhead.

    Industrial Music used to be a clear-cut genre. These days, it is more of an umbrella term. Like every genre, it ebbs and flows in its evolutionary process. In the early days, industrial had a sound ranging from experimental to more rhythmic, dance-friendly New Wave and EBM-esque sound. Now, there is a plethora of many electronic music influences and blending.

    The gear and instruments used in the original bands back in the late 70s and early 80s differs greatly from the equipment used today (especially with the reliance of PCs and software these days). The sound has changed greatly as well. If you juxtapose early Throbbing Gristle with something that's labeled as "industrial" that was produced in the last few years, say "Necro Facility - The Black Paintings" (which is as close as any modern "industrial" band will ever get to the original industrial sound, in my opinion), you will find that they surely have similarities, but are clearly different. The "post-industrial" sound you'd hear today, you can hear how it is an offspring of the original industrial sound, but like every offspring, it is it's own entity.

    If we look at the genealogy of industrial music, there is a huge question mark concerning what exactly it is (in a contemporary sense). For brevity's sake, I won't delve too far into it, but after the rage of industrial metal and the decline of electro industrial from the early and mid '90s, industrial music clearly became something else. I personally believe the start of the "post industrial" phenomenon took place sometime throughout 1996 and 1997, but opinions will differ.

    Besides, both punk and rock have their "post" varieties. Contemporaneously speaking, industrial needs such a label as well.
  • psyhoe over 6 years ago

    Style Name: Forest

    Alternative: Forest Trance

    Genres: Electronic

    Examples:

    Everything from

    Schlabbaduerst Rekkords
    http://www.discogs.com/label/Schlabbaduerst+Rekkords

    Sanaton Records
    http://www.discogs.com/label/Sanaton+Records

    imho the definition of Forest would be music from:
    Ka-Sol
    http://www.discogs.com/Ka-Sol-Fairytale/master/240738

  • Jarren over 6 years ago


    Gabbahead
    Rave is just an umbrella term (Hard Trance, Happy Hardcore...), no style at all.


    The only people I have ever heard refer to Hard Trance, Happy Hardcore etc as "rave" were people who didn't actually listen to dance music at all...
  • Gabbahead over 6 years ago

    It was used here (DE) for "euphoric (mid) 90'ies electronic dance music" for sure.
  • zin over 5 years ago

    ANY NEWS ???

    When new styles will be added ???

    I really need Skweee, there are more and more releases coming out with this sound...
  • Jarren over 5 years ago


    Luigi499
    Style Name: Lento Violento


    agree (2)
  • DonHergeFan over 5 years ago

    Me too, of course. ;-)
  • zin over 5 years ago

    I think it's also good time to add 'Witch House'.

    However, first of all we need to know WHEN will those proposed styles be added.
  • consort over 5 years ago

    Majus
    I seriously think it's about time we have a "Post Industrial" style.

    Mr.Mystery
    I seriously think you should elaborate that a bit.

    Genres: Electronic

    Description: As inevitable extension beyond shock value (and social discontent as core sociopolitical, not artistic aesthetic) and raw experimentation (especially instruments - including the first sampler, etc.) associated with late '70s industrial music, moving into a perhaps softer, likely matured, and more aesthetically oriented dreamworld, postindustrial is the foundation of neofolk and related genres.

    Examples:
    Zoviet-France
    Hafler Trio
    Nocturnal Emissions

    Associated Styles: ?

    External citations:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-industrial_music
    http://media.hyperreal.org/zines/est/articles/preindex.html

    Notes: Please forgive me for abusing the Notes in order to apologize for this short synopsis "written" in a fatigued state in full support of the addition of Post Industrial as a style on discogs, incidentally one of the foundational cores of my general taste in music. I have been aware of and have used this term since the '80s.
  • LadyBlacktronika over 5 years ago


    zin
    However, first of all we need to know WHEN will those proposed styles be added


    I'm hoping we can get an answer too. We need to make more noise about it.
  • LadyBlacktronika over 5 years ago

    I suggest having tabs like a browser. This side tabs thing doesn't really work.
  • Jayfive over 5 years ago


    LadyBlacktronika
    I'm hoping we can get an answer too. We need to make more noise about it.


    While the APR is still on the go you're probably be just making a noise at a brick wall.

    While we do need new styles added something like the APR is far more integral to the site.
  • Jarren over 5 years ago

    I'm sure this has been raised before, but would it not be appropriate to include Eurodance under the Electronic genre?

    I know most titles are currently classed as "Euro House" but to be honest, I don't think it's a widely used title.
  • LadyBlacktronika over 5 years ago


    Jarren
    I'm sure this has been raised before, but would it not be appropriate to include Eurodance under the Electronic genre?

    I know most titles are currently classed as "Euro House" but to be honest, I don't think it's a widely used title.


    When ever they get around to it they will add Eurodance in Electronic. However management is choosing to pretend the new styles subject doesn't exist for the moment.
  • Mr.Mystery over 5 years ago

    Yeah, because nothing is more important than adding new styles...
  • LadyBlacktronika over 5 years ago


    Mr.Mystery
    Yeah, because nothing is more important than adding new styles...


    Exactly. Glad you and I finally agree on something.
  • Jarren over 5 years ago

    Jarren edited over 5 years ago
    LadyBlacktronika
    When ever they get around to it they will add Eurodance in Electronic. However management is choosing to pretend the new styles subject doesn't exist for the moment.


    Indeed.

    I don't know much about the importance of various issues over others, all I can say is that Eurodance has been a recognized style since 1994.

    Edit to show the difference between Euro House and Eurodance:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Euro_house

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurodance
  • Jayfive over 5 years ago

    Jayfive edited over 5 years ago
    LadyBlacktronika
    Exactly. Glad you and I finally agree on something.


    He was being sarcastic.

    LadyBlacktronika
    However management is choosing to pretend the new styles subject doesn't exist for the moment.


    What? They arent 'ignoring' it, theres just far far more integral stuff going on at the moment.

    It might be of some note that nothing regarding styles is mentioned on the projects page:
    http://www.discogs.com/projects

    If it aint there, you might as well not bother asking about it for a while. I thought youd have been here long enough now to know things happen when they happen, not when people make the most noise. Id rather have artist and label pages working properly and various long-standing bugs and glitches first before adding relative luxuries like new styles.
  • LadyBlacktronika over 5 years ago


    Jayfive
    He was being sarcastic.


    So was I.
  • Jayfive over 5 years ago

    Jarren
    Edit to show the difference between Euro House and Eurodance:


    Using wiki to define style = only a small step above using ishkar's guide.

    For example:

    "Eurodance (also known as Dance and Hands Up! in Europe)"

    WRONG.

    Hands Up! is a relatively new 'style' and is only unique to parts of europe (mostly germany). To say that Eurodance has ALWAYS had this alternative names is stupid and dangerous.

    And 'dance' as another name for eurodance? WTF? Thats opening the box with the key thats inside it.

    Elsewhere the article is full of false assumptions, scattergun pigeonholing, 2+2=5'ing and stuff thats just plain made up. Eg that technotronic and snap invented hip-house.

    In short, almost all crap that should not be regarded as a source on discogs. Best just talk about the style and link to actual music and/or artist and label webpages. That ridiculous attempt to group together a myriad of vaguely-related artists should be dismissed out of hand.
  • Jarren over 5 years ago


    Jayfive
    In short, almost all crap that should not be regarded as a source on discogs.


    Fair dos, upon reading through it I have to agree.

    Still, I do hope Eurodance will be added at some stage!
  • Jayfive over 5 years ago

    The more i read, the more bullshit I see.

    'solo artists such as ....Kylie Minogue and her younger sister Dannii Minogue...among others, represent some of the best of the second generation of Eurodance artists.'

    Feck. Right. Off. Dannii Minogue in particular simply did a guest vocal spot on a poppy house/trance record.

    Many of the other acts and artists mentioned are simply house or trance or even pop that just happen to be european, not any distinct style.

    I like this
    'Each group featured their own signature sound, persona, visual imagery, and vocal approach.'

    If they are all completely different, how the feck can you group them all together???

    Thats like saying Slayer and Oasis are exactly the same sort of music.
  • TechElec over 5 years ago

    TechElec edited over 5 years ago
    Jayfive
    Feck. Right. Off. Dannii Minogue in particular simply did a guest vocal spot on a poppy house/trance record.


    You talkin' bout Stringer? That was just an already well known trance track she sung vocals for and re-released. It was a decent track 'till she did that.

    On a side note, I know styles isn't a priortiy when the rest of the site is falling apart, but seeing as nik started this topic he could at least take a minute to reply and say it's on hold or isn't a priortity.
  • Barry_Crumbcheeks over 5 years ago

    Barry_Crumbcheeks edited over 5 years ago
    Requested style - SYNTH

    recognised genre since late 70s early 80s, think of all the synth labels and mags in the 80s, not to mention festivals like UK electronica... The most useful primary style to describe some music with is 'synth'. synth-pop, ambient and electro are not accurate, think of later tangerine dream, klaus schulze conrad schnitzler etc... this music was known at the time as synth. genre : electronic, style: synth. you know it makes sense! :D
    Plus, i was just submitting an experimental electronic-y/fusiony thing from the 70s... primarily synth based, but using the existing styles there's no way of conveying that, just 'experimental'..... very useful for describing those 70s 80s synthesizer-based experiments etc.. needed to show when the palette is heavily synthesizer based.
  • Gabbahead over 5 years ago

    They don't hear us...
  • mjb over 5 years ago

    Synth was indeed a category we had in the record shop devoted to exactly what you're talking about: synthesizer based, not-really-New-Age, experimental/fusion/prog/pop/soundtrack/library/etc. music coming out from the mid-'70s through the mid-'80s. It was kind of a dumping ground for what was actually a broad range of styles.

    The problem with Synth on Discogs is it's just like Brit Pop. No, not stylistically similar of course, but just in that if it's added as a style, people will see it on the release pages and in the drop-down menus when submitting, and they'll think it means something much broader than is intended. They're going to slap Synth on everything with a synthesizer sound in it. It doesn't matter if we find some agreeable external definition to point to. It's just a poorly named genre.

    So I can't really get behind having a Synth style. Same goes for Electronica (mentioned earlier in the thread).
  • LadyBlacktronika over 5 years ago


    mjb
    Synth style. Same goes for Electronica


    I think much like Rock those are umbrella terms that don't really describe any particular genre.
  • Barry_Crumbcheeks over 5 years ago


    mjb
    he problem with Synth on Discogs is it's just like Brit Pop. No, not stylistically similar of course, but just in that if it's added as a style, people will see it on the release pages and in the drop-down menus when submitting, and they'll think it means something much broader than is intended. They're going to slap Synth on everything with a synthesizer sound in it.


    i se what you're saying, but i don't find it a convincing argument. We have styles, they are inadequate as it stands for indicating a release falls broadly in this area. With the ones we have at the moment there are albums like conrad schnitzler's con described as 'electro', which is even further off the mark. The connection between No UFOs and that is very slender to say the least. As styles are an ongoing project, i think the addition of this term would help more by its inclusion than its current ommission, where people skirt round it using perhaps even more easily misconstrued terms (like electro). IMO etc.
  • zin over 5 years ago

    zin edited over 5 years ago
    Style Name Witch House

    Alternative Names Drag, Ghost Drone, Haunted House

    Genres Electronic

    Description (copied from wikipedia)
    A genre of dark electronic music which features a prominent hip-hop influence, specifically the 1990's Houston chopped and screwed sound pioneered by DJ Screw. By applying such techniques rooted in Swishahouse hip-hop – drastically slowed tempos with skipping, stop-timed beats – with signifiers of noise, drone, or shoegaze, the genre recontextualizes its forebearers into a sinister, unprecedented, yet aesthetically referential atmosphere. Witch House is also influenced by hazy 1980's goth bands, including Cocteau Twins, The Cure and Dead Can Dance. The use of hip-hop drum machines, noise atmospherics, synthpop-influenced lead melodies, and heavily altered or distorted vocals is also common.

    Examples
    http://www.discogs.com/release/2444349
    http://www.discogs.com/release/2469149
    http://www.discogs.com/release/2187551
    http://www.discogs.com/release/2300831
    http://www.discogs.com/release/2471178

    Associated Styles currently I use Darkwave, Experimental, Synth-pop, Drone, Industrial, sometimes Hip Hop

    External citations
    http://witch-house.com
    http://www.guardian.co.uk/music/musicblog/2010/aug/11/bands-names-symbols
    http://pitchfork.com/features/articles/7806-ghosts-in-the-machine/
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch_house_(music_genre)
    http://www.last.fm/group/Witch+house

    Notes
    -

    also pleeeeease add Skweee and (UK) Funky
  • KlangTerrorist over 5 years ago

    Hardtechno would be cool (german Schranz)
  • SickMF over 5 years ago

    Btw, the origin of the term "Schranz" as explained by Chris Liebing (in German): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98aLqXTziMk
    (basically saying it's originally been a coincidental onomatopoeia for an overdriven, "shredding" sound in Techno, coined at his radio show in the late 90s, that took off on it's own as a style description).
  • Gabbahead over 5 years ago

    Hard Techno is a harder form of Progressive Techno, not "german Schranz"...
  • 0frg over 5 years ago

    IMO Hard Techno is a broad genre that includes Schranz.
  • 0frg over 5 years ago

    btw, is there a chance to use the already approved styles before, say, december 2012?
  • dokizoli over 5 years ago

    1.)
    Genres: Electronic

    Style Name: Euro Disco (Euro-Disco)

    European dance music in the '80s.

    Artists: London Boys, Bad Boys Blue, Joy, Modern Talking ect.

    2.)
    Genres: Electronic

    Style Name: Euro Dance (Euro-Dance)

    European dance music in the '90s.

    Artists: DJ Bobo, Masterboy, Magic Affair, Culture Beat, Dr Alban (fron his 2nd album) ect.

    It wasn't same like the Euro House (some artist only), because it was full of melody and rap or vocal parts changed between the refrains.
  • LadyBlacktronika over 5 years ago


    dokizoli
    Style Name: Euro Disco (Euro-Disco)


    I think Euro Disco has been requested. I support the inclusion of different styles of disco. Why we only have one I don't understand.
  • brunorepublic over 5 years ago

    Preface: my two main areas of interest are '70s disco and "EM" electronic music.

    I'd like to suggest that "Dance" be added a separate style from "Electronic". I'll concede there might not be much support for this, given that almost all dance music made since the early 80s is predominantly electronic. Nonetheless, just as not all electronic music is Dance (thus the EM/Berlin School debate) not all dance music is Electronic. It does seem strange to be choosing "Electronic" as a style for '70s disco records which have no electronic instrumentation whatsoever.

    Regarding the EM style debate: Way back in the day, this genre -- which was originally more of a method for making music, as opposed to any specific style -- was initially called "Moog" music. That was a misnomer right off the bat, since it referenced a specific synthesizer manufacturer, but I would still occasionally see it used as recently as the early 80s. The term "Electronic" more or less replaced it, but that when overtly electronic recordings were relatively uncommon, before dance genres like House/Techno/Trance/et al came along.

    The EM community doesn't seem as particular about classifying various sub-genres compared to dance music, with the exception of applying the "New Age" tag. Mentioning *that* will likely result in vicious flame-wars. It's a very loaded term due to both the stylistic connotations, and the connection to the spiritual movement of the same name. But right now, there isn't much else to describe EM albums, except the much more neutral "Ambient".

    Anyway... Vangelis, Tomita, and Tangerine Dream have little in common apart from the instruments they used, but they are all considered EM. "Berlin School" is a bit more clearly defined, focusing on sequencer-driven material like 70s Klaus Schulze and Tangerine Dream, but that would exclude all Tomita and most Vangelis.
  • DnV over 5 years ago

    DnV edited over 5 years ago
    I would like to see Italian House as a style on discogs

    There is already Ialo Disco which to me covers 1987/8 backwards and italodance which covers 1993/4 upwards, there is no inbetween

    Alternates would obviously be italohouse

    Description: House music imported from italy, covering piano/techno/acid/samples/trumpets. Ranging from 1988 - 1993, artists would include, 49ers, dj h, pierre feroldi, F.P.I project. Labels involved would be italian style production, discomagic, Ra-Re, wicked & Wild, palmares etc

    Examples:

    http://www.discogs.com/Pierre-Feroldi-Featuring-Linda-Ray-Movin-Now/release/105014

    http://www.discogs.com/ASHA-JJ-Tribute/master/193795

    http://www.discogs.com/FPI-Project-Risky-Remix/release/260906

  • DnV over 5 years ago

    DnV edited over 5 years ago
    I would like to see Italian House as a style on discogs

    There is already Ialo Disco which to me covers 1987/8 backwards and italodance which covers 1993/4 upwards, there is no inbetween

    Alternates would obviously be italohouse

    Description: House music imported from italy, covering piano/techno/acid/samples/trumpets. Ranging from 1988 - 1993, artists would include, 49ers, dj h, pierre feroldi, F.P.I project. Labels involved would be italian style production, discomagic, Ra-Re, wicked & Wild, palmares etc

    Examples:

    http://www.discogs.com/Pierre-Feroldi-Featuring-Linda-Ray-Movin-Now/release/105014

    http://www.discogs.com/ASHA-JJ-Tribute/master/193795

    http://www.discogs.com/FPI-Project-Risky-Remix/release/260906

  • djbarriejay over 5 years ago

    I agree.

    Italian House or Italo House should be a separate and unique category.

  • Jayfive over 5 years ago

    Any chance someone can come up with a suggestion that isnt something-house or something-trance or something-disco?

    Yknow something that isnt a sub-sub-sub style? Because I dont think theres been one for about 2 pages.
  • zin over 5 years ago

    Witch House has nothing to do with the actual House music, just a name for a new genre.
  • Jayfive over 5 years ago

    Youre the exception and just about the only suggestion in the last 2 pages that I would go for :D
  • Mr.Mystery over 5 years ago

    House of Pancakes!
  • DnV over 5 years ago

    Jay, this seems to be what people want, surely it is worth looking at?
  • Jayfive over 5 years ago

    Jayfive edited over 5 years ago
    DnV
    Jay, this seems to be what people want, surely it is worth looking at?


    What they want isnt neccessarily whats right for discogs. Not to mention the fact that many suggestion are based on erroneous information like Ishkur's guide or wikipedia entries or a localised name for an existing style thats know as something else everywhere else or simply a personal definition created to bundle a disparate group of release together. See for example my earlier dissection of the hogwash that is the wiki entry for euro-dance.

    People want lots of things for this site but its not about whats best for the site, its what is best for them personally. And if this site is pulled in 1000s of directions itll only be to its detriment.

    This thread isnt just about posting your favourite style names and nor is it about adding 12 billion sub-styles to the list.

    Theres a fair few sub-styles I could suggest that lie amongst my own record collection but I dont need, expect or even want to see them included. Because its not just about what I want.

    Most of the styles suggested here are nowhere near distinctive enough to get into discogs or are simply a certain sound within an existing style (Mediterranean dream neo hard disco soul anyone?). And tbh some of the ones already in the style dropdown should be there either.

    If you can put down in words what make your suggestion so distinctive, dont bother suggesting it.
  • DnV over 5 years ago

    that told me then, lol. My suggestion would cover a lot of tunes not just a few from my collection, but i understand what you are saying
  • Jayfive over 5 years ago

    I should point out that when I say this:
    Jayfive
    If you can put down in words what make your suggestion so distinctive, dont bother suggesting it.

    im not just being arsey. I say it because the whole point of this thread is to give the Discogs Management to go forth and research the style to see if at can be considered.

    Detail, links, examples - the more you give the more chance you have. Simply shouting out style names like your shouting types of jobs at Drew Carey on 'Whose Line...' isnt going to get you anywhere.
  • MPC83 over 5 years ago

    Totally agree with DnV!

    My only gripe with discogs is that there's no Italian house genre.

    Like already stated it would cover a hell of a lot of tunes.
  • Jayfive over 5 years ago


    MPC83
    My only gripe with discogs is that there's no Italian house genre.


    Then more effort should be made to make a case for them. The fact they are from italy isnt enough.

    And
    DnV
    covering piano/techno/acid/samples/trumpets.

    doesnt tell anyone anything. That sounds like any sort of house music.
  • Barry_Crumbcheeks over 5 years ago


    Jayfive
    Yknow something that isnt a sub-sub-sub style? Because I dont think theres been one for about 2 pages.


    NOT. TRUE.
  • Jayfive over 5 years ago

    Jayfive edited over 5 years ago
    Barry_Crumbcheeks
    NOT. TRUE.


    In my opinion it very much is. They're almost all sub-styles and sub-sub-styles with house, jungle, trance, hardcore and others. Often the case for it is simply based on one distinctive element within an existing style framework, or being from a certain era or from a certain country.

    After 2 pages and 8 months only Witch House and possibly that Lento Violento thingy (which appears to be to these untrained ears just hardstyle at a much slower tempo) has any business being considered for inclusion. Maybe UK Funky if you made a really good case for it.
  • recordkeeping over 5 years ago


    Jayfive
    (Mediterranean dream neo hard disco soul anyone?)


    LOL
  • Numanoid over 5 years ago

    I feel that there are too few styles available to describe Ambient music. I suggest the following additions:

    -Berlin School (Klaus Schulze, Tangerine Dream et al has inspired a lot of artists, and one should therefore be able to use this style to describe such releases).

    -Beatless Ambient (It seems to me that a lot of albums tagged as ambient in Discogs are actually downtempo release, as such I think it is important to be able to describe if an ambient release has beats or not).

    -Happy Ambient (There is a style called "Dark ambient", so to describe the elevator type style ambient albums on the opposite side of the scale I suggest this term).
  • Jayfive over 5 years ago


    Numanoid
    I suggest the following additions:


    Even you want the styles to be even considered, plase submit them in the requested format on the first page of this thread.
  • Mr.Mystery over 5 years ago


    Numanoid

    -Happy Ambient (There is a style called "Dark ambient", so to describe the elevator type style ambient albums on the opposite side of the scale I suggest this term).

    So now we're just making up terms as we go along?
  • Jayfive over 5 years ago

    See the previous 350+ posts XD
  • swattan over 5 years ago

    Jayfive
    Detail, links, examples - the more you give the more chance you have. Simply shouting out style names like your shouting types of jobs at Drew Carey on 'Whose Line...' isnt going to get you anywhere.


    as i written in previous page

    swattan

    The most of Italodance (a style born in the end of '90) here on Discogs from the end of 80' are "Italian House" (Black Box, FPI, DJ Pierre Feroldi Etc..)

    I tried to say this a lot of time in various topics.

    For example here

    http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/144712#2189019

    PS: There is also a DVD called "The History Of Italian House"

    http://www.discogs.com/groups/topic/180485


    If an entire DVD is not a valid proof....
  • zin over 5 years ago

    I don't want to write a suggestion form yet, but what do you guys think of Tropical ? I wasn't sure which genre should it be really, but IMO that'd be quite usefull tag... There is 'tribal' already, but sometimes it just doesn't fit
  • notbot over 5 years ago

    digitalist
    minimal wave or minimal synth.


    I definitely second this! The closest thing we got right now is Synth-pop, but it's not very intuitive. I see a lot of people resorting to using the "minimal" style for these records, but it seems to me that that style is refering to minimal techno.

    A good example would be this record: http://www.discogs.com/Human-Puppets-TV-Eye/release/2344490. It is electronic and it is minimal, but it certainly has no relationship with techno what so ever. Personally I'd like to call it synth punk, but that is definitely close to being a micro genre

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