Tracklist
Pumpkin | |||
Subterfuge | |||
Black Fire | |||
Cantarnos | |||
Tired Trade | |||
McNeil Island | |||
Land Of Nod |
Credits (10)
- Reid MilesDesign [Cover]
- Roy HaynesDrums
- VAN GELDER*Lacquer Cut By
- A. B. Spellman*Liner Notes
- Francis WolffPhotography By [Cover Photo]
Notes
Recorded November 8 and 9, 1963 at Van Gelder Studio, Englewood Cliffs, New Jersey.
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35 versions
Image | , | – | In Your Collection, Wantlist, or Inventory | Version Details | Data Quality | ||||
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![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Stereo | Blue Note – BST 84151 | US | 1964 | US — 1964 | Recently Edited | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Mono, Plastylite Pressing | Blue Note – BLP 4151 | US | 1964 | US — 1964 | Recently Edited | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Reissue, Repress, Stereo, Research Craft Pressing, Liberty | Blue Note – BST 84151 | US | 1966 | US — 1966 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo | Blue Note – BST 84151 | US | 1966 | US — 1966 | Recently Edited | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Repress, Stereo, New York USA Labels | Blue Note – BST 84151 | US | 1966 | US — 1966 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Repress, Mono | Blue Note – BLP 4151 | US | 1966 | US — 1966 | Recently Edited | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Stereo | Blue Note – BST-84151, Blue Note – BLP-4151 | US | 1970 | US — 1970 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Reissue, Repress, Stereo | Blue Note – BST-84151, Blue Note – BLP-4151, Blue Note – 84151 | US | 1973 | US — 1973 | ||||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo, Black b | Blue Note – BST-84151, Blue Note – BLP-4151 | US | 1973 | US — 1973 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo, All Disc Pressing | Blue Note – BST-84151 | US | 1973 | US — 1973 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Reissue, Repress, Stereo | Blue Note – BST 84151, Blue Note – BST-84151 | US | 1977 | US — 1977 | Recently Edited | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Repress, Stereo | Blue Note – BST-84151 | US | 1977 | US — 1977 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo | Blue Note – GXK 8023, Blue Note – BST 84151 | Japan | 1978 | Japan — 1978 | ||||
Black Fire LP, Album, Promo, Reissue, Stereo | Blue Note – GXK 8023, Blue Note – BST 84151 | Japan | 1978 | Japan — 1978 | New Submission | ||||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Reissue | Blue Note – CDP 7 84151 2 | US | 1987 | US — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Black Fire Plus 2 CD, Album, Reissue | Blue Note – CP32-9530 | Japan | 1987 | Japan — 1987 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Reissue, Stereo | Blue Note – TOCJ-4151, Blue Note – BNST-84151 | Japan | 1994 | Japan — 1994 | Recently Edited | |||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Promo, Reissue, Stereo | Blue Note – TOCJ-4151, Blue Note – BNST-84151 | Japan | 1994 | Japan — 1994 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Reissue, Repress, Stereo | Blue Note – CDP 7 84151 2, Blue Note – CDP 0777 7 84151 2 1 | US | 1995 | US — 1995 | Recently Edited | |||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Reissue, Remastered | Blue Note – 7243 5 96502 2 7, Blue Note – 596 5022 | Europe | 2004 | Europe — 2004 | ||||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Reissue, Remastered | Blue Note – 7243 5 96501 2 8 | US | 2004 | US — 2004 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Limited Edition, Reissue, Remastered, Stereo, Paper Sleeve | Blue Note – TOCJ-9585, Blue Note – BST-84151 | Japan | 2004 | Japan — 2004 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Copy Protected, Reissue, Remastered | Blue Note – 7243 5 96502 2 7, Blue Note – 596 5022 | Europe | 2004 | Europe — 2004 | ||||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Reissue, Remastered, Stereo, EMI MFG. | Blue Note – 7243 5 96501 2 8 | US | 2004 | US — 2004 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Reissue, Remastered | Par Media Music – ZZ-63/05GP0001896 | Russia | 2005 | Russia — 2005 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Reissue, Remastered, Stereo | Blue Note – TOCJ-7187 | Japan | 2008 | Japan — 2008 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Reissue, 180 Gram | Heavenly Sweetness – HS078VL, Blue Note – BST-84151 | France | 2013 | France — 2013 | Recently Edited | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo | Blue Note – B0021306-01, UMe – B0021306-01, Blue Note – ST-84151, Blue Note – BST 84151, Blue Note – 84151 | US | 2014 | US — 2014 | Recently Edited | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo, 180g | Blue Note – ST-84151, Blue Note – 84151, Blue Note – 00602537937646 | Europe | 2014 | Europe — 2014 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire 7×File, FLAC, Album, Reissue, 24bit 192kHz | Blue Note – none | 2014 | 2014 | New Submission | ||||
![]() | Black Fire 7×File, MP3, Album, Reissue, VBR | Blue Note – none | 2014 | 2014 | |||||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Reissue, Remastered | Blue Note – UCCQ-9507 | Japan | 2019 | Japan — 2019 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire LP, Album, Reissue, Stereo, 180g, Gatefold | Blue Note – B0029975-01, Blue Note – ST-84151, Blue Note – BST 84151, Blue Note – 84151 | Worldwide | 2019 | Worldwide — 2019 | Recently Edited | |||
![]() | Black Fire 7×File, WAV, Album, Remastered, Stereo, Hi-Res 24-bit / 192-kHz | Blue Note – none | Worldwide | 2024 | Worldwide — 2024 | New Submission | |||
![]() | Black Fire CD, Album, Reissue | Blue Note – CDP 7 84151 2 | US | US | Recently Edited |
Recommendations
Reviews
- Superb sound! Roy Haynes' drums sound incredible on this. Some of the best recorded drums I've heard on a Blue Note recording. Everything is very balanced and immediate sounding. And, of course, the music is top tier. A must have.
- Flat record. Lots of ticks on B3, will try another run through the ultrasonic cleaner.
I realize this is a minority view, but I don't think this record sounds very good. The piano, bass, and drums all come from the right side of the soundstage and there is very little separation between them. This has the effect of muddling the piano and bass, which is made worse by the fact that the bass is recorded at a low level. It is difficult to hear what the bassist is doing much of the time, and his constant plucking sometimes makes it difficult to hear Hill distinctly. On one song, the bass is played arco and it's such a relief. Henderson is fantastic, but the album really needs a lot more of him and his horn. Henderson comes out of the left speaker, clear as a bell. I really wish the entire band had been spread evenly across the entire soundstage. I don't hear the piano wobbling like others have said, but the piano is certainly not recorded in high-fidelity, although I have heard much worse piano tone on other Blue Notes.
Overall, I find this interesting but disappointing, a lot like Smokestack, which also had muddled bass. For me, it is not one of Hill's best. I will spin this regularly and try to learn a lot from it. Maybe over time it will grow on me. - Excellent album avant-garde,cool,smooth and very jazzy.
You won`t miss not having a modern day vinyl reissue with this cd.
It`s all here shimmering highs,textured lows,and clear and ambient mids.
Music:5.0 Avant-garde
Mastering/remastering 5.0 Excellent throughout
Jewel case:3.0 standard clear plastic
System used:
Cd Player/transport - rega apollo r cdp(synergistic sr T250ma fuse)
Dac Denafrips Ares ii
Pre - musical fidelity m6s class a fully balanced
Power amp - meridian g57 class a/b dual mono fully balanced
Speakers - Tannoy xt f6 isoacoustics gaia feet/spikes
Cabling - Tellurium Q
Isolation/support - isoacoustics - Prefer this version over the Tone Poet release. This version does not have the piano wobble making it sound out of tune. If your ears are pitch sensitive, hunt down this copy, you won’t be disappointed.
- Another slam dunk by Tone Poet. Particularly love the way Joe’s sax really pops in the solos as he’s in great form. Sonic Nirvana.
- My favourite Andrew Hill record. Fantastic album and the musicians really shine in this one. I read other comments concerning mainly the sound of the piano but I have zero issues with this record. Definitely not wobbly piano. Anyway this is highly recommended of course.
- I purchased this recently expecting that it might be a repress. Nope, it still has the same problem - on A3 and most of side B it sounds like someone is wobbling the piano while Hill is playing. No issue with sax, bass or drums - they sound great. But as soon as the piano comes in, it feels like the music is coming from a creased tape. I sent it back, got another copy, send the second one back again. I'm giving up. Streaming this one is the only option (no issues with piano there, by the way).
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