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ScientistScientist Wins The World Cup

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Reggae

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Dub

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    Cover of Scientist Wins The World Cup, 1982-05-00, VinylScientist Wins The World Cup
    LP, Album
    Greensleeves Records – GREL 37UK1982UK1982
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    Cover of Scientist Wins The World Cup, 1982, VinylScientist Wins The World Cup
    LP, Album
    Greensleeves Records – GREL 37US1982US1982
    New Submission
    Cover of Scientist Wins The World Cup, 1994, CDScientist Wins The World Cup
    CD, Album, Reissue
    Greensleeves Records – GRELCD37UK1994UK1994
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    Cover of Scientist Wins The World Cup, 2002, CDScientist Wins The World Cup
    CD, Album, Reissue, Remastered, Green
    Greensleeves Records – GREWCD37UK2002UK2002
    Cover of Scientist Wins The World Cup, 2002, VinylScientist Wins The World Cup
    LP, Album, Repress
    Greensleeves Records – GREL 37UK2002UK2002
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    Cover of Scientist Wins The World Cup, 2002, VinylScientist Wins The World Cup
    LP, Album, Repress
    Greensleeves Records – GREL 37UK2002UK2002
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    Cover of Scientist Wins The World Cup , 2014, VinylScientist Wins The World Cup
    LP, Album, Reissue
    Мирумир – MIR100741Russia2014Russia2014
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    Cover of Scientist Wins The World Cup , 2014, CDScientist Wins The World Cup
    CD, Album, Reissue
    Мирумир – MIR100741Russia2014Russia2014
    Cover of Scientist Wins The World Cup , 2014-12-27, CDScientist Wins The World Cup
    CD, Album, Reissue, Paper Sleeve
    Reggae Workshop – RWS023, Dub Мир – MIR100741Japan2014Japan2014
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    Cover of Wins The World Cup (The Final King Tubby's Session), 2016-04-29, VinylWins The World Cup (The Final King Tubby's Session)
    LP, Album, Reissue, Remastered; LP, Album, Compilation, Remastered
    Greensleeves Records – GREL2107Europe2016Europe2016
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    Cover of Wins The World Cup (The Final King Tubby's Session), 2016-06-27, CDWins The World Cup (The Final King Tubby's Session)
    CD, Album, Reissue, Remastered; CD, Compilation, Remastered
    Greensleeves Records – GRE2107Europe2016Europe2016
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    Cover of Scientist Wins The World Cup, 2017-10-04, FileScientist Wins The World Cup
    16×File, MP3, Album, Reissue, 320 Kbps
    Resurfaced Records – none20172017
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    Cover of Scientist Wins The World Cup, , VinylScientist Wins The World Cup
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    Not On Label (Scientist) – noneUKUK
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    Cover of Scientist Wins The World Cup, , VinylScientist Wins The World Cup
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    Greensleeves Records – GREL 37UKUK
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    Reviews

    • big_gulp's avatar
      big_gulp
      I've gathered all of these Mirumir reissues over the course of the year and they really are super good quality, this one is my personal favourite I think, dangerous matches 1, 4, 7 and extra time 2 are all so incredible but really there's not a bad track on here
      • chedda's avatar
        chedda
        The story of Scientist – Scientist Wins The World Cup and its connection to the Junjo reissue revolves around some fascinating and often contentious aspects of reggae and dub music, including producer credits, licensing issues, and the role of legendary figures in the genre.

        The Original Release: Scientist Wins the World Cup (1982)

        Scientist Wins The World Cup was a 1982 dub album by Hopeton Brown, better known as 'Scientist', a pioneer in the genre. Scientist was a protege of King Tubby, the originator of dub, and rose to fame in the late 1970s and early 1980s for his unique and highly experimental dub mixing style. His albums often had catchy titles related to contemporary events or fantastical themes (e.g., Scientist Rids the World of the Evil Curse of the Vampires). Scientist Wins the World Cup was released by Greensleeves Records, a British label known for reggae and dub.

        The album was recorded at Channel One Studio in Jamaica, and the rhythms were provided by the famous Roots Radics band, known for their tight, heavy rhythms that dominated the sound of early dancehall. The album's title was a playful nod to the 1982 FIFA World Cup, which was a major global event at the time.

        The Junjo Connection

        The rhythms on Scientist Wins The World Cup were produced by Henry "Junjo" Lawes, one of the most influential reggae producers of the early 1980s. Junjo played a key role in the shift from roots reggae to the emerging dancehall sound, and many of the rhythms on this album were versions of popular tracks from his productions. The rhythms came from sessions originally used for vocal tunes by artists like Barrington Levy, Johnny Osbourne, and Michael Prophet.

        The Dispute and Reissue Controversy

        Fast forward to 2015, when VP Records (which had acquired Greensleeves) released reissues of several classic Scientist albums, including Scientist Wins the World Cup. These reissues sparked controversy due to disputes over the credits and rights to the music.

        Here's the crux of the controversy:
        Scientist's Claim: Scientist argued that he had been the creative force behind these albums and that his work as a dub mixer had been essential to their identity. He felt that he deserved more recognition and compensation for his contributions. The dispute centered around the ownership of the "dub mixes" and whether they belonged to Scientist or the producer (Junjo Lawes, in this case).

        Greensleeves/VP's Position: VP Records maintained that the rights to the album, including the dub mixes, belonged to them, as they had purchased the catalog from Greensleeves. They attributed the production to Junjo Lawes since the rhythms were created by him and the Roots Radics band.

        Reissue Credits: When VP reissued these albums, including Scientist Wins The World Cup, the new liner notes credited Junjo Lawes as the producer, but Scientist felt that his role had been diminished. These reissues also included other legal changes, and the covers were altered to reflect Junjo's prominence, further fueling Scientist’s frustration.

        This situation reflects broader issues in reggae and dub music, where the lines between producers, mixers, and musicians can sometimes blur, leading to disputes over credit and royalties. In the early days of dub, producers like King Tubby and Scientist were essentially remixing pre-existing rhythms, but their creative manipulation of the tracks transformed them into something new. The legal and financial recognition of that transformation has often been murky.

        In this case, the Scientist vs. Junjo reissue saga highlights the importance of understanding the collaborative nature of reggae and dub music, where multiple parties contribute to the final product. It's also a reminder of how the music industry’s legal framework often lags behind the creative innovations of artists, leading to disputes over intellectual property and rightful credit.
        • downradio's avatar
          downradio
          For a record with eight full-length tracks per side, Mirumir managed to get pretty great sound quality here. Seems a bit quieter than the other Mirumir pressing I have ("Scientist Rids The World Of The Evil Curse Of The Vampires"), but the dynamics here, including the bass, are right on. Can't beat it for this price.
          • tobywt94's avatar
            tobywt94
            Am looking for a spare cover - if anyone has one to sell, let me know!
            • funkbone's avatar
              funkbone
              I think it sounds excellent. Great value if you can’t afford or find an OG
              • clauses's avatar
                clauses
                Not a terrible, not great. Sounds about the same as the CD. At the price I’m happy with this one.
                • petrorius's avatar
                  petrorius
                  Dice Lloyd Bradley en "Bass Culture" que esta serie de discos de Scientist (las de los "cómics" por llamarla de alguna forma) llaman la atención por sus icónicas portadas más que por una genuina innovación en los derroteros del dub. Y algo de razón tiene en que no es una vuelta de tuerca a lo que su mentor, King Tubby, venía haciendo desde mediado de los setenta ni mucho menos se acercan a la genialidad (y locura) del mismísimo The Upsetter, Lee Perry (¿alguna vez alguien lo ha hecho?). Pero esto no es razón para quitarle mérito esta serie incontestable ya que si algo hizo Scientist fue perfeccionar el sonido, los efectos y la técnica de grabación del dub y hacerlo sonar con una precisión, profundidad y fidelidad que cuesta pensar que se grabó hace más de 40 años atrás. Y eso es razón suficiente para instalarlo como uno de los grandes nombres del Dub.
                  • Hest0n's avatar
                    Hest0n
                    Can someone update me on the controversy between scientist and junjo
                    • niiikkkooo82's avatar
                      niiikkkooo82
                      Edited 4 years ago
                      If you have a spare sleeve to sell please contact me in PM
                      Thanks
                      • AlwaysThereTJ's avatar
                        AlwaysThereTJ
                        This is a very quality reissue of Scientist's "World Cup," as with all the Mirumir Russian pressings. All of the tracks are included, sound fantastic and the artwork is unedited from the original. You can't go wrong with these classic dub albums!

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