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Tracklist
Ceremony | |||
Everything's Gone Green | |||
Temptation | |||
Blue Monday | |||
Confusion | |||
Thieves Like Us | |||
The Perfect Kiss | |||
Subculture | |||
Shellshock | |||
State Of The Nation | |||
Bizarre Love Triangle | |||
True Faith |
Credits (4)
- Peter Saville AssociatesDesign [Sleeve]
- Trevor KeyDesign [Sleeve]
- New OrderProducer
- New OrderWritten-By
Notes
Substance was the first widely released New Order compilation. Issued as a 12-track double LP, a 12-, 24- or 28-track double cassette, a 24-track double CD, and a 24-track double DAT, the compilation featured original 12" singles and B-sides, with a few exceptions.
“Ceremony” is the 1981 re-recorded version with Gillian Gilbert, “Temptation” and “Confusion” are May 1987 re-recordings, and “Subculture”, “Shellshock”, and “Hurt” are edited versions; CD and DAT copies additionally contain an edited version of "The Perfect Kiss" that fades out 44 seconds early. These alterations were implemented due to storage limitations of physical media in 1987, and have remained in place on reissues.
Additionally, all of the 24- or 28-track editions confuse the song titles “Cries and Whispers” and “Mesh” (owing to the tracks being improperly ordered on the rear sleeve for the 12" release of "Everything's Gone Green" in 1981), misname "The Perfect Kiss" and "Sub-Culture" "Perfect Kiss" and "Subculture" (respectively), and place A-sides "Procession" and "Murder" on the second CD/DAT, which is otherwise relegated to B-sides; the latter anomaly is not present on cassette copies.
First US release: Aug. 18, 1987
“Ceremony” is the 1981 re-recorded version with Gillian Gilbert, “Temptation” and “Confusion” are May 1987 re-recordings, and “Subculture”, “Shellshock”, and “Hurt” are edited versions; CD and DAT copies additionally contain an edited version of "The Perfect Kiss" that fades out 44 seconds early. These alterations were implemented due to storage limitations of physical media in 1987, and have remained in place on reissues.
Additionally, all of the 24- or 28-track editions confuse the song titles “Cries and Whispers” and “Mesh” (owing to the tracks being improperly ordered on the rear sleeve for the 12" release of "Everything's Gone Green" in 1981), misname "The Perfect Kiss" and "Sub-Culture" "Perfect Kiss" and "Subculture" (respectively), and place A-sides "Procession" and "Murder" on the second CD/DAT, which is otherwise relegated to B-sides; the latter anomaly is not present on cassette copies.
First US release: Aug. 18, 1987
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Image | , | – | In Your Collection, Wantlist, or Inventory | Version Details | Data Quality | ||||
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![]() | Substance 2×CD, Compilation | Factory – 832 616-2, PolyGram – 832 616-2 | Canada | 1987 | Canada — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation Embossed Letters | Factory – Fact 200 | UK | 1987 | UK — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation SRC Pressing | Qwest Records – 1-25621, Qwest Records – 9 25621-1 | US | 1987 | US — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance Cassette, Compilation SRC | Qwest Records – 9 25621-4, Qwest Records – 4 -25621 | US | 1987 | US — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×CD, Compilation Standard Jewel Cases | Qwest Records – 9 25621-2 | US | 1987 | US — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×CD, Compilation | Factory – Facd 200 | UK | 1987 | UK — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation | Factory – 832 616-1, PolyGram – 832 616-1 | Canada | 1987 | Canada — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation Embossed Letters | Factory – RTD 50, Rough Trade – RTD 50 | Germany | 1987 | Germany — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation | Factory – 60057 | France | 1987 | France — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation Embossed Letters | Factory Records Australasia – Fact 200, Factory Records Australasia – 460130 1 | Australia & New Zealand | 1987 | Australia & New Zealand — 1987 | ||||
![]() | The Gatefold Substance 2×LP, Compilation, Limited Edition, Numbered Gatefold Sleeve | Factory – FACT 200 | UK | 1987 | UK — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance Cassette, Compilation | Factory – 40057 | France | 1987 | France — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation | MNW – Fact 200, Factory – Fact 200 | Sweden | 1987 | Sweden — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×Cassette, Compilation Grey Shells | Factory Records Australasia – Factc 200, Factory Records Australasia – 460130.4, Factory Records Australasia – 460130 4 +1 more label... | Australia | 1987 | Australia — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×CD, Compilation | Factory Records Australasia – Facd 200, Factory Records Australasia – 460130.2 | Australia | 1987 | Australia — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×Cassette, Compilation; Box Set | Factory – Fact 200c | UK | 1987 | UK — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×CD, Compilation | Factory – Facd 200, MNW – Facd 200 | Sweden | 1987 | Sweden — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×CD, Compilation, Club Edition | Qwest Records – W2 25621 | US | 1987 | US — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 1987 Part-I Cassette, Compilation, Unofficial Release | Thomsun Original – EN-1805 | Saudi Arabia | 1987 | Saudi Arabia — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation, Test Pressing | Factory Records Australasia – 460130 1 | Australia | 1987 | Australia — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×CD, Compilation Double Jewel Case | Qwest Records – 9 25621-2 | US | 1987 | US — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance Cassette, Compilation Yellow QC-10 Background | Factory – 832 616-4 | Canada | 1987 | Canada — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation | Factory – 36 269 A, Nuevos Medios – 36 269 A | Spain | 1987 | Spain — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance Cassette, Compilation, Club Edition | Qwest Records – W4-25621, Qwest Records – 4-25621 | US | 1987 | US — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation | CGD – INT 22223 | Italy | 1987 | Italy — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation | Factory – YZ-185~6 | Japan | 1987 | Japan — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation | Factory – VG-50292/93, Factory – FACT 200 | Greece | 1987 | Greece — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×CD, Compilation, Club Edition Double Jewel Case | Qwest Records – 9 25621-2 | US | 1987 | US — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation, Club Edition | Qwest Records – W1-25621 | US | 1987 | US — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance Cassette, Unofficial Release, Compilation | Contessa – P.1974 | Indonesia | 1987 | Indonesia — 1987 | Recently Edited | |||
![]() | Substance 2×Cassette, Compilation | Factory – Fact 200c | UK | 1987 | UK — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation, Reissue | Factory – Fact 200 | UK | 1987 | UK — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×CD, Compilation | Factory – 50CY-1737->38 | Japan | 1987 | Japan — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation Embossed | Factory – Fact 200 | Benelux | 1987 | Benelux — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×LP, Compilation | Factory – VG-50292/93, Factory – VG 50292/93, Factory – FACT 200 +1 more label... | Greece | 1987 | Greece — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 2×Cassette, Compilation | Factory – 38270 CC, Factory – 38 270 CC, Nuevos Medios – 38270 CC, Nuevos Medios – 38 270 CC +2 more labels... | Spain | 1987 | Spain — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance Sides Cassette, Compilation | Factory – 832 617-4 | Canada | 1987 | Canada — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance Cassette, Compilation | Factory – Fact C200, Crystal (6) – Fact C200 | Taiwan | 1987 | Taiwan — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 1987 Part-I Cassette, Compilation, Unofficial Release | Thomsun Original – EN-1805 | Saudi Arabia | 1987 | Saudi Arabia — 1987 | ||||
![]() | Substance 1987 Part-II Cassette, Compilation, Unofficial Release | Thomsun Original – EN-1806 | Saudi Arabia | 1987 | Saudi Arabia — 1987 |
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Reviews
Show All 83 Reviews- My #1 complaint about this compilation on both CD and LP is the awful mastering. The volume is kept low and you have to crank up the amp in order to feel it. If you can get the original 12” singles, preferably UK, you’ll enjoy the music much more. I don’t hold much hope for a vinyl reissue. The songs were remastered for CD (except for a couple such as “Confusion”) and released on some of the remastered albums on a 2nd bonus tracks CDs. Easier and cheaper to pursue these songs without paying through the nose.
- The sound of this pressing is amazingly good. I was surprised when I compared this to the UK 1987 pressing I have and this German copy actually trumps in terms of clarity and is punchy AF.
- Looking at fishboybilly's comment below. Perhaps the 451 includes the other "varieties" of this boot? Agree tho' just because it says 300 pressed, doesn't necessarily mean it's true..Even legit record Co's in the past are known to have pressed up "overuns" of popular LP's/12" records...most probably for reps to persuede stores to take "promo" giveaways, that were then sold..It's a dirty business...
- Matrix / Runout (Side D Variation 2): FACT 200 D1x STEPHEN WON'T GO TO STOCKPORT TOWNHOUSE MPO
Our matrix reads "Steven Won't go to Southport". Anyone can confirm this is a misspell ? referencing The Gatefold Substance (2×LP, Compilation, Limited Edition, Numbered, Gatefold Sleeve) FACT 200
DMM = Dynamic Metal Mastering.
FACT 200 S = (*STAR)The Fact 200 S refers to the hex star ~* in the runout grooves of all four sides, it is suggested- where? by whom? in Factory Records cataloguing as FACT 200 S for "Special" as a separate discrete edition, in the cover title, "The Gatefold Substance Limited Edition of 1000", may it be considered by dent of reason, before asking a former Factory Records staffer, is it...
FACT 200 S (Star) or FACT 200 S (Special)? Or ISS S, Immediate Sound Services, Ltd.?
Inner FAC 183 R expansion of the artwork for https://www.discogs.com/release/11690826-New-Order-True-Faith-Remix