Charles Manson ‎– LIE: The Love And Terror Cult

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"Sings" contains exactly the same recordings as "LIE: The Love And Terror Cult", even with the same cover artwork, just with another title. The CD version of the ESP release contains 12 additional tracks.

Tracklist

Look At Your Game Girl 2:04
Ego 2:31
Mechanical Man 3:20
People Say I'm No Good 3:22
Home Is Where You're Happy 1:29
Arkansas 3:06
I'll Never Say Never To Always 0:42
Garbage Dump 2:37
Don't Do Anything Illegal 2:55
Sick City 1:41
Cease To Exist 2:15
Big Iron Door 1:10
I Once Knew A Man 2:37
Eyes Of A Dreamer 2:51

Versions (23)

Cat# Artist Title (Format) Label Cat# Country Year
2144 Charles Manson LIE: The Love And Terror Cult(LP, Album, Ltd) Awareness Records (2) 2144 US 1970 Sell This Version
2144 Charles Manson LIE: The Love And Terror Cult(LP, Album, TP) Awareness Records (2) 2144 US 1970 Sell This Version
ORLP-4327 Charles Manson LlE: The Love And Terror Cult(LP, Album) Orbe ORLP-4327 Venezuela 1970 Sell This Version
M-24025 Charles Manson 12 Canciones Compuestas Y Cantadas Por Charles Manson(LP, Album, Mono) Movieplay M-24025 Spain 1971 Sell This Version
AW 12258 Charles Manson LIE: The Love & Terror Cult(LP, Album, RE) Awareness Records AW 12258 Argentina 1974 Sell This Version
ESP 2003 Charles Manson LIE: The Love And Terror Cult(LP, Album) ESP Disk ESP 2003 US 1974 Sell This Version
WDC 883008 Charles Manson Lie(Cass, Album, C40) Come Organisation WDC 883008 UK 1981 Sell This Version
XXX 16 Charles Manson Lies(Cass, Album) Inner-X-Musick XXX 16 US 1984 Sell This Version
Fright 001 Charles Manson LIE: The Love & Terror Cult(LP, Album, Unofficial) Fierce Recordings Fright 001 UK 1985 Sell This Version
Fright 001 Charles Manson LIE: The Love & Terror Cult(LP, Unofficial, Album, TP) Fierce Recordings Fright 001 UK 1985 Sell This Version
TPOS 015 Charles Manson LIE(Cass, Album) TPOS TPOS 015 US 1987 Sell This Version
AWARE 1CD Charles Manson LIE: The Love And Terror Cult(CD, Album, RE) Awareness Records (3) AWARE 1CD US 1987 Sell This Version
AWARE 1C Charles Manson LIE: The Love And Terror Cult(Cass, Album, RE) Awareness Records (3) AWARE 1C US 1987 Sell This Version
AWARE 1 Charles Manson LIE: The Love And Terror Cult(LP, Album, RE) Awareness Records (3) AWARE 1 US 1987 Sell This Version
AWARE 1 Charles Manson LIE: The Love And Terror Cult(LP, Album, RE, TP) Awareness Records (3) AWARE 1 US 1987 Sell This Version
CD4-30691 Charles Manson LIE(CD, Album) White Devil Records CD4-30691 US 2006 Sell This Version
ESP 2003 Charles Manson Sings(CD, Album) ESP Disk ESP 2003 US 2006 Sell This Version
none Charles Manson Sings(CDr, Album, Promo) ESP Disk none US 2006 Sell This Version
ESP 2003 Charles Manson Sings(CD, RE, Album, Dig) ESP Disk ESP 2003 US 2008 Sell This Version
AWARE 1CD, 08903-0156, 08824-5241 Charles Manson LIE: The Love And Terror Cult(CD, Album, RE) Awareness Records (3), Awareness Records (3), Aware-One Records AWARE 1CD, 08903-0156, 08824-5241 US 2009 Sell This Version
AWD 20001 Charles Manson Lie: The Love And Terror Cult(CD, Album, RE) Awareness Records AWD 20001 US 2009 Sell This Version
M-24025 Charles Manson 12 Canciones Compuestas Y Cantadas Por Charles Manson(LP) Movieplay M-24025 Spain 2016 Sell This Version
none Charles Manson LIE(Cass, Album, Ltd) Sisyfoss Editions none Denmark Unknown Sell This Version

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SmashingManson

SmashingManson

September 26, 2015
referencing LIE: The Love And Terror Cult, LP, Album, Ltd, 2144
Reissue when? Honestly this needs a remaster and a reissue, even if it is very limited.
meltdog

meltdog

April 6, 2014
edited over 2 years ago
referencing LIE: The Love And Terror Cult, LP, Album, Ltd, 2144
very dull music,
enfantterrible

enfantterrible

April 4, 2013
edited over 3 years ago
referencing LIE: The Love And Terror Cult, CD, Album, RE, AWARE 1CD

There is music that survive the ages, goes across all restrictions and prohibitions and impose its power through history. Always manages to affirm its legacy with the potence of its own aural predicament.
Why is this other than the response that receives from the public?
Bach, Beethoven, Mozart or Wagner didnt need any publicity, fanatics or ideologies to reach the standard of classic, only people understanding and loving their music through time.
Just a few reach this standard in history, most music will just simply dissapear from the radar from generations.

There are musicians that defy the rules of music construction and they may equally manage as their more "normal" counterparts to reach the epitet of classics. The difference its that the way to achive this stance its more difficult. Often disgressive compositions calls the more conservative forces from society in order to condemn their creations. Its so typical to find examples in history from musicians and artists from all kinds that have break the rules and have been called crazy and morally dangerous to then later been accepted as genious long after their life flame has been extinguished.

Its curious to see how all the music yesterday was morally objectable, today are the hymns and anthems from corporate media. From Beatles to Rolling stones, from Mozart to Wagner, from Iggy pop to Moby, everyone is selling something with the tracks of rebellion or "inmorality" of the past, some artifact, some banal garment, some forgetable perfume, some shit.

But these dead people sells because they are memorable for one reason or another regarding to the music they made, because the public no matter the gender, the race, the age or the place recognize these patterns of beauty and they can be used to sell something. Capitalism has been so smart as to sell what is remarkably anti-capitalist, or anti-stablishment or anti-something. Becouse capitalism has the ability to morph everything to its own standards and make it profitable.

But the music that doesnt bring standards of easy happiness,freedom,love,whatever is more difficult to sell anything, no matter how someone tries to. In this case Manson and his family are famous not exactly for the kind of music they were able to blend but for the infamous character of their morally objectable actions. Manson is the negative whore of the music bussiness, the dark side of the pop star, the unseller.

And his music is as important as the futile fame he acquired with his actions, no more relevant than the countless amount of other musicians from the 60s who transited through and through in similar if not exact ways and now remain in the obscure shelf from some elder man who collects psychedelic rarities, outsider music or other marvels from that epoch.

Manson's music remains thus as a rarity, some peculiar music made by psychopathic weirdos who singed to the food that people can obtain in garbage cans, the promises of love made by a delirious man, the moaning of a lumpen put into a cell and so on.

And we may even discover (if we have some degree of anglosaxon morbidness for crime plots) that in his music there are hints of his psycho games and mind tricks, but that wouldnt be much of a discovery in these days, after all has been said and done and we know the complete story from head to tail, isnt?

Or if we notice that most of his music can be easily traced back to other sixties musicians who played the guitar similarly, raspy and frenzy sometimes incongruently, with mad lyrics and sometimes intrepid canvas that may eventually sound fresh, or the sometimes rhythmless percussions, or the background of people sounding all as if they were tripping high. All of this can be found somewhere else, with better sound and even crazier disposition. But Manson will inevitably remain attached to his own story, and thats what ultimately counts for the interest that this particular music may deliver to the listener. Otherways he would surely will go back in that obscure shelf along with sixties rarities and the kind of music that will never get any light in history.

That of course, unless, eventually some crazy propagandist from tomorrow sells some ipod or Ishit with the best song from this album, "the eyes of the dreamer".
DIFFO

DIFFO

August 30, 2012
referencing LIE: The Love And Terror Cult, LP, Album, Ltd, 2144
It is quite surreal to handle a copy of Lie: The Love and Terror Cult, and certainly a very bizarre feeling to know that someone so twisted as Charles Manson and his cult, The Family, were the artists behind it all. Still, no matter how outrageous it appears, artists they are—albeit questionable ones. Or are they...? The reaction to Manson's music here is determined by the bias (rightfully and justifiably so) resulting from being guilty of the horrific Tate-LaBianca murders. This is probably what tainted the sales of the record when it first was released, with just three hundred of the two thousand copies sold. But that was the sixties. America was at the height of its reactionary politics, and the hippie movement had adopted Manson as an icon, but the tragic events associated with The Family's involvement in the Tate-LaBianca murders put paid to not only the popular, hippie counterculture, but also to the future of Manson's music career

At first blush, and this is exactly what this record will be to many listeners today, the record may not be path breaking, musically or otherwise. But it is, nevertheless, a significant musical document, considering it is a reflection of the popular counterculture. As a musical event it does have several moments, however. Significantly, most of folksy tracks have stood up to the test of time. "Look at Your Game Girl" and "Eyes of a Dreamer" are iconic, as is "Cease to Exist" and "The More You Learn to Love." "Cease To Exist" was, in fact, co-written by the Beach Boys' Dennis Wilson and was also recorded by the group, but as "Never Learn To Love"—first as a single and then on 20/20 (Capitol, 1968). Other tracks have since been covered, hidden in or just blatantly swiped by various artists who show varying degrees of admiration for Manson's musicality.

If it is possible to put aside the cynicism or angst towards Charles Manson then it is possible to enjoy this record. Although the music does, at times, come across as being a tad simple—even simplistic—it also has its moments of freshness. What effectively destroys any pleasure that may be derived from listening to the music are the events that Manson helped unfold. Still, while he is no Dylan or John Sebastian, Manson was indeed driven by the same existentialism that drove many of his generation. He was cruelly distracted by the hidden impulses contained in his songs, and the rest is a sordid history. But it is hoped that that fact will not diminish the experience of listening to this music for what is hoped to be. The booklet accompanying the music includes liners by Bernard Stollman of ESP-Disk and liners by Phil Kaufman, the record's original producer. Those, together with Steve Alexander's "Charles Manson Interview" make the 2008 release quite historic.

Track Listing: Look At Your Game, Girl; Ego; Mechanical Man; People Say I'm No Good; Home Is Where You're Happy; Arkansas; I'll Never Say Never To Always; Garbage Dump; Don't Do Anything Illegal; Sick City; Cease To Exist; Big Iron Door; I Once Knew A Man; Eyes Of A Dreamer; Devil Man; The More You Love; Two Pair Of Shoes; Maiden With Green Eyes (Remember Me); Swamp Girl; Bet You Think I Care; Look At Your Game, Girl (alternate version); Interview; Who To Blame; True Love You Will Find; My World; Invisible Tears.

Personnel: Charles Manson: guitar and vocals; The Family: other instruments and background vocals.