Saccharine Trust – Surviving You, Always

More images

Label:	SST Records – SST 024
Format:	Vinyl, LP, Album
Country:	US
Released:	1984
Genre:	Rock
Style:	Punk, Avantgarde, Experimental

Tracklist

A1	The Giver Takes Written-By – Brewer, Baiza, Cicero*	1:59
A2	Lot's Seed Written-By – Brewer, Baiza, Hodson, Cicero	1:52
A3	Spunk Written-By – Brewer, Baiza	1:35
A4	Speak Written-By – Brewer, Baiza, Cicero*	3:27
A5	The House, The System, The Concrete Written-By – Brewer, Baiza, Hodson, Vidal, Cicero*	2:15
A6	Remnants Written-By – Brewer, Baiza	3:42
A7	The Cat.Cracker Alto Saxophone – Rick Cox Voice – Joe Baiza Written-By – Baiza, Hodson, Cicero*	4:55
B1	Our Discovery Written-By – Brewer, Baiza, Hodson, Vidal, Cicero*	6:00
B2	A Good Nights Bleeding Written-By – Brewer, Baiza, Vidal, Watson	1:46
B3	Craving The Center Written-By – Brewer, Baiza, Vidal, Watson	1:04
B4	YHWH On Acid Cornet – Russell Conlin Written-By – Brewer, Baiza	6:04
B5	Peace Frog Written-By – Morrison, Krieger	5:03

Companies, etc.

Phonographic Copyright ℗ – SST Records
Copyright © – Cesstone Music
Copyright © – Doors Music
Recorded At – Total Access Recording Studios
Mastered At – Greg Lee Processing – L-17043
Mastered At – K Disc Mastering

Credits

Bass, Vocals – Mark Hodson
Cover – Gary Jacobelly, Joe Baiza
Drums – Tony Cicero (2)
Engineer – Spot
Guitar – Joe Baiza
Photography By [Back Photograph] – Victor Sedillo
Photography By [Front Photograph] – R. C. Wiles*
Producer – Saccharine Trust, Spot
Vocals – Joaquin Milhouse Brewer*

Notes

Some copies come with an inner sleeve with lyrics.

Track A5 is titled "The House, The System, The Concrete" on the back cover, and "The House The Concrete The System" on the label.
Track A7 is titled "The Cat.Cracker" on the back cover, and "Cat Cracker" on the label.
Track B4 is titled "YHWH On Acid" on the back cover, and "Y.H.W.H. On Acid" on the label.

Recorded September 1983 thru January 1, 1984 at Total Access in Redondo Beach CA.

SST Records P.O. Box 1 Lawndale CA 90260
℗ 1984 SST Records
© 1984 Cesstone Music (BMI)
except B5, © Doors Music (ASCAP)

Barcode and Other Identifiers

Matrix / Runout (Variant 1, side A): SST-024-A (FREEDOM WALK, SHUTTLE, GUTTER) RELIGION < FEAR L-17043
Matrix / Runout (Variant 1, side B): SST-024-B I'LL GLADLY PAY YOU ♀ OR ♂ FOR AN + TODAY L-17043-X
Matrix / Runout (Variant 2, side A, etched/stamped): SST-024-A kdisc (FREEDOM WALK, SHUTTLE, GUTTER) RELIGION < FEAR ∴ L-17043
Matrix / Runout (Variant 2, side B, etched/stamped): SST-024-B kdisc ▽ I'LL GLADLY PAY YOU ♀ OR ♂ FOR AN ⨁ TODAY L-17043-X
Rights Society: ASCAP
Rights Society: BMI

Other Versions (1)

View All

	Title (Format)	Label	Cat#	Country	Year
New Submission	Surviving You, Always (LP, Album, Repress)	SST Records	SST 024	US	Unknown

Recommendations

Paganicons
Saccharine Trust
1981 US
Vinyl —
12", 45 RPM
Shop
Zen Arcade
Hüsker Dü
1984 US
Vinyl —
LP, Album
Shop
Double Nickels On The Dime
Minutemen
1984 US
Vinyl —
LP, Album
Shop
Suicidal Tendencies
Suicidal Tendencies
1983 US
Vinyl —
LP, Album
Shop
We Became Snakes
Saccharine Trust
1986 US
Vinyl —
LP, Album
Shop
Ballot Result
Minutemen
1986 US
Vinyl —
LP, Album, Stereo
Shop
Slip It In
Black Flag
1984 US
Vinyl —
LP, Album
Shop
Loose Nut
Black Flag
1985 US
Vinyl —
LP, Album
Shop
New Day Rising
Hüsker Dü
1985 US
Vinyl —
LP, Album
Shop
Flip Your Wig
Hüsker Dü
1985 US
Vinyl —
LP, Album
Shop

Reviews

Paulie_Walnuts Jan 27, 2024
A truly amazing album and band. As essential as Flag,Huskers,Minutemen et al
judahreed Jul 7, 2023
When I first listened to this it felt like the band was trying too hard at the time to evolve their sound and put out a more experimental record, now that I’ve listened to this record over and over it’s safe to say this album has my favorite songwriting, of any record, ever. The biblical allusions, the raw and animated maniacal vocal delivery from Jack Brewer who was nothing short of a genius. The bass and guitar little short to long bits, the raw rock formed into almost jazz ensembles. It takes a lot of listening and took me some acid to really appreciate this album.

So in short, don’t compare this record to Paganicons, for it is different and takes almost a new set of ears to truly understand and appreciate this record.
civilsurface Jun 27, 2023
Hard to believe this has never been reissued in any format - CD please Mr Ginn!!
Minimal-Man Jan 14, 2023
Fantastic record. I have to admit I wasn’t a total fan at first. I guess I was comparing it to Paganicons. This record is way more aggressive with a slight “jazzy” punk approach. I hate jazz but the combination of the two styles works well here. Dare I even say a tinge of proto math rock in moments? Jack Brewer’s vocals are as raw an animated as ever. Just a kick ass record all the way through.