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Second HandDeath May Be Your Santa Claus

Label:Mushroom (2) – 200 MR 6
Format:
Vinyl, LP, Album
Country:UK
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Genre:Rock
Style:Prog Rock

Tracklist

A1Death May Be Your Santa Claus
Written-ByElliott*
A2Hangin' On An Eyelid
Written-ByElliott*
A3Lucifer And The Egg
Written-ByElliott*
A4Somethin' You Got
Written-ByO'Connor*
B1Cyclops
EngineerNeil Richmond
GuitarMoggy Mead
Written-ByHart*, Elliott*
B2Sic Transit Gloria Mundi
Written-ByHart*, Elliott*, O'Connor*
B3Revelations Ch. 16 Vs. 9-21
Written-ByElliott*, Craig*
B4Take To The Skies
Written-ByElliott*, Craig*
B5D.M.B.Y.S.C.-Reprise
Written-ByElliott*
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Laminated cover.

Barcode and Other Identifiers

  • Matrix / Runout (A-side runout, stamped except for "AI-D"): 200 MR6A-3 AI-D
  • Matrix / Runout (B-side runout, stamped except for "AI-A"): 200 MR6B-3 AI-A

Other Versions (5 of 19)

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Title (Format)LabelCat#CountryYear
New Submission
Death May Be Your Santa Claus (LP, Album, Stereo)Stateside, Stateside2C 062 - 92.660, 2 C 062 - 92660France1971
New Submission
Death May Be Your Santa Claus (LP, Album, Test Pressing, White Label)Mushroom (2)200 MR 6UK1971
Recently Edited
Death May Be Your Santa Claus (LP, Album, Repress)Mushroom (2)200 MR 6UK1972
Recently Edited
Death May Be Your Santa Claus (CD, Album, Reissue)UFO Records, Mushroom (2)BFTP CD 004UK1991
New Submission
Death May Be Your Santa Claus... Plus (CD, Album, Reissue)See For Miles Records Ltd.SEECD 479UK1997

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  • PhillipAdams's avatar
    PhillipAdams
    To see the band in action, check out the video clip from the movie Death May Be Your Santa Claus from 1969 (full movie is 36 minutes, and not that great, to be honest), and for which some of the music from the LP was used, but in earlier versions than what appeared on 1971 LP. Definite Arthur Brown influence (as in The Committee movie).

    Also, there's a snippet of music from this great LP in the Death Line movie, from 1972. It's funny that both movies have scenes of cannibalism and Death as the first line of the title. To me, side 2 of DMBYSS (the LP) sounds like it would have been better used as a soundtrack to something like the last 20 minutes of 2001 - A Space Odyssey - it was just a couple of years too late.

    It's maybe the most out-there music from the UK, from early 1970s, that's still listenable, if you don't include the really avant-garde, experimental, free music, free jazz, or improvised stuff, that's mostly a bit of a challenge to sit through. I'd love to know what the influences were for the bizarre lyrics on side 1 of the LP.

    If there was a 'World Turned Upside Down' equivalent to the utterly mainstream, boring, predictable, Rock 'n' Roll Hall of Fame for all the underground weirdo freak bands, then Second Hand would be the first nominee, in an ideal world.
    • cookfaces's avatar
      cookfaces
      The photograph shows funeral a second pressing.However a brilliant lost masterpiece as per Nick Hamlyn.Incidentally the unofficial version blocked by discogs has brilliant sound and reproduction.Presumably blocked because original master tapes stolen by someone in Hungary so sound as good as the original.
      • disintegrati's avatar
        disintegrati
        Edited 5 years ago
        Thanks to devrobot, I've now heard the French LP. Yes, it's time for a total geek out, Discogs style, because this needed to be done. Someone just had to scrutinize this masterpiece of an album. And apparently I was that "someone". This is the thing I'll be remembered for. I want the following text written on my gravestone:

        ”DEATH MAY BE YOUR SANTA CLAUS”

        – Lead vocals have stereo reverb on French LP. Lead vocals dry on UK LP.
        – Piano is more prominent on UK LP.
        – Mellotron panned right on French LP, centered on UK LP.
        – Harmonica panned left on French LP, centered on UK LP.
        – High register organ panned right on French LP, panned left on UK LP (”Understand, love if you can…”).
        – Mellotron brass panned hard right on French LP, panned left on UK – then reversed during the latter part of the song.

        "HANGIN’ ON AN EYELID"

        – French LP has vibraphone (panned right) during intro. Vibraphone on UK LP comes in much later.
        – French LP has reverb on vocals, vocals are dry on UK LP.
        – Backing vocals panned hard right on French LP. UK LP has backing vocals treated with delay giving them a stereo effect.
        – Lead vocals sing a different type of harmony audible during choruses. Mixed out on UK LP.
        – French LP has a completely different piano solo (panned left). UK LP has a more structured piano solo, which is also double-tracked in stereo.
        – French LP has no vibraphone during build-up (2:10), and additional piano at 2:24 onwards (panned left).
        – Backing track – except vibraphone – fades out earlier on French LP, highlighting said instrument.

        "LUCIFER AND THE EGG"

        – UK LP version sounds like a rough mix compared to French LP.
        – French LP has a different intro with gong which fades in, with the drum intro fading in and out. UK LP starts with drum intro, sans fades.
        – French LP has a gong cropping up at different points throughout the entire song. The gong is first heard at 7:38 on the UK LP.
        – French LP has atonal saxophone and varispeed organ during intro, which is not on UK LP.
        – French LP has additional organ (panned right)/vibraphone (panned left) interplay throughout the song.
        – French LP has panned delay on lead vocals.
        – French LP has vibraphone during organ solo (2:26–3:42), and additional vibraphone 5:06 onwards.
        – French LP has even MORE vibraphone, plus vocal noises (4:41–4:56), similar types of sounds turn up at 5:06 on UK LP.
        – French LP lack the delay on lead and backing vocals (6:12 onwards).
        – French LP has bongos coming in much earlier (6:12), they first appear at 7:17 on UK LP.
        – UK LP has a more prominent Leslie effect on the vocals throughout the song.

        "SOMETHIN’ YOU GOT"

        – French LP has additional grunts/Neanderthal vocals/silly voices during song, the Beefheart type ”wah wah wah” vocals are louder during instrumental part.
        – French LP has stereo reverb on vocals, UK LP has slapback type echo/delay.

        "CYCLOPS"

        – French LP has an additional 15 second intro of faint organ, UK LP fades in.
        – Intro organ is panned left on French LP, centered on UK LP.

        "SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI"

        [No mix differences.]

        "REVELATIONS CH. 16 VS. 9–21"

        – French LP version is 24 seconds longer compared to UK LP. UK LP edit out a first ”dramatic” section (which, incidentally, sounds a lot like ”Black Celebration” era Depeche Mode). The edit point on the UK LP is at 1:10.

        "TAKE TO THE SKIES"

        [No mix differences.]

        "D.M.B.Y.S.C. – REPRISE"

        – French LP version is 50 seconds shorter. UK LP has an intro of noises, sound effects and vocals from the title track. No mix differences.

        That's about it. I think I need to have a lie down now.
        • AOS3Sounds's avatar
          AOS3Sounds
          Out there. On its own. Nothing else sounds like this. An incredible listen (if you give it your time...)

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