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PropagandhiToday's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes

Label:Fat Wreck Chords – FAT 617-1, Fat Wreck Chords – FAT617-1
Vinyl, LP, Album
Style:Hardcore, Punk


A1Mate Ka Moris Ukun Rasik An
A2Fuck The Border
Written-By [Co-conspirators]Jimmy Juicepig, Sean Talarico
A3Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes
A4Back To The Motor League
A5Natural Disasters
A6With Friends Like These Who The Fuck Needs Cointelpro?
A7Albright Monument, Baghdad
B1Ordinary People Do Fucked-Up Things When Fucked-Up Things Become Ordinary
B2Ladies' Nite In Loserville
B3Ego Fum Papa (I Am The Pope)
B4New Homes For Idle Hands
B5Bullshit Politicians
B6March Of The Crabs
B7Purina Hall Of Fame

Companies, etc.



Recorded deep inside enemy territory at the Motor Studios safe-house, San Francisco, CA, between so-called "Memorial" Day and so-called "Independence" Day 2000.
Mixed at Motor Studios, San Francisco.
Additional recording performed back in our complicit, pathetic, client-state at Mid-Can Studios, Winnipeg, MB, August 2000.
Mastered at Oasis.

Issued with the "Knowledge Is Power, Arm Yourself" booklet and the CD booklet. However there are known copies that do not include one or another.

Repressed in 2015 with the same catalog number from the same masters.

Lacquer cutting company and vinyl processing company uncredited, identified by the matrix numbers.

Barcode and Other Identifiers

  • Barcode: 7 51097-0617-1 8
  • Matrix / Runout (Side A): FAT-617 4931.1(3) OASIS DISC MASTERING PROPAGANDHI - SIDE A ['Dc Bqs' mooshed signature]
  • Matrix / Runout (Side B): FAT-617 4931.2(3) OASIS DISC MASTERING PROPAGANDHI - SIDE B ['Dc Bqs' mooshed signature]

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Title (Format)LabelCat#CountryYear
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Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes (CD, Album, Enhanced)Fat Wreck ChordsFAT617-2US2001
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Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes (LP, Album, Red)Fat Wreck ChordsFAT617-1US2001
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Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes (CD, Album, Enhanced)G7 Welcoming Committee RecordsG7015Canada2001
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Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes (LP)G7 Welcoming Committee RecordsG7015 LPCanada2001
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Today's Empires, Tomorrow's Ashes (CD, Album, Enhanced)Fat Wreck ChordsFAT617-2US2001


bawbm's avatar
Unfortunately (copyright reasons?) they ripped out the initial audio sample of the woman speaking about the Freedom Song. It makes the first track just sort of jump out of nowhere.

They also ripped out the intro scene from Purina Hall of Fame.

Otherwise, I pick up on some interesting sound mixing that seems to clarify some parts. But bummed they took out those more jarring, politically-impactful moments that made this album so monumental for me as a kid.
fruitkiller's avatar
So ordering this RM, I hope there's still some through Fat Wreck in a week when I get my pay before the price goes up ridiculously. I also always found the sound to be a bit strange just like Chris Hannah, despite loving every bit of it, I only found one song skippable (March of The Crabs) at the time. I'm amazed at how fat wreck manage to ship a vinyl record to canada for that cheap, not even the big music stores, we still got those in Canada, although HMV left the country, almost all their shops were taken over by people running them more like a discogs member would, having 1/3 to 1/2 in vinyl the material they have on CD, will be able to sell this for less than 35 on vinyl in store. I really am psyched about this, one of my fav albums getting retouched and as intended by the songwriters, the guitar was always a bit fuzzy on the original.