Greetings, There is much Vinyl history yet to be discovered! One disc at a time !!

From nik ~~~ This is a community built database of music, it should be fun.

From staff ~~~ Diognes_The_Fox 10 months ago
What's put in the FTF must make sense and be usable to differentiate it from another release in the DB.

From staff and user Diognes_The_Fox
I really do need to stress that this is a community built site. We all need to work together to solve issues as a team. We can't keep up with this US vs. them fighting, especially among the most experienced members of the site. The goal is common for all of us.

Be you a new or old user ... you also should have read the intro portion and know the guidelines re: how to work together. This is A "Community Driven Site" and there is a teamwork expectation for all of US. You signed up for the same thing as we signed up many years ago, thanks

NOTE !!! We are here to HELP and IMPROVE a database which is already plagued by so many things needing attention. We find from time to time that we disagree with other users when they disagree with us, though we continue to try to come to common ground regardless of the differing views. We ask that you please stop to consider whether your contributions and comments are constructive... whining, moaning and ranting endlessly is counter-productive.

Store: Serious collector/buyer of vintage vinyl, our extensive experience goes back to the early 1980's when vinyl was supreme. Having worked in now 6 different (de-funkt) local new/used shops since then has gained a deeper appreciation for the cleaner copy.

Standard "Record Store" acronyms (wlp wol woc etc) http://www.beastiemania.com/collector/definitions.php

DIscoger: Whole goal is presenting the most accurate info for releases and their variations in our system. There are many pressing variations of releases that people don't realize yet to be uncovered. If you have questions about music related topics re: "Discog" Entries, Credits, Artists etc., Please feel free to contact me. My broad range of music knowledge covers: Funk, Disco, Fusion, Jazz, R&B, and even old Country. My current projects are focused on New Private vinyl issues and reissues. Odd promotional material and linking proper credits for the (Design / Illustration / Photography etc). "Arts" and Artists.

The larger picture goal here is focused on helping perfecting a solid inventory by adding correct UPC codes found on labels and covers. This is essential to pinpointing the exact release among the many release. Adding UPC info in a string with proper spacing is one part of adding UPC data, But by adding the scan of a UPC One can get the exact result. IMO both types are needed: see the UPC forum thread here: http://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/533b305b2ec4b351f56cf75f?page=1#539b579ea86b6d68ee17e49f
Barcode (Scanned): 8019991001318
Barcode (Text): 8 019991 001318

PLEASE send us a message or comment within an entry if there is something that has been overlooked !! Seriously would rather hear from you in a nice tone as we are only human worming to archive the unknown. Unlike machines ...human errors can occur.

Vinyl is a true addiction! Very Friendly "discoger" and Lifetime record advocate, SERIOUSLY really friendly ....We do not need Ego's or attitudes here as everyone's work here is for everyone.

Please Note: Capitol Record label colors ON releases dated Up to 1968 and 1969 pressings have Black Rainbows,
seen like these -
1968 Bobbie Gentry & Glen Campbell
1968 Romeo & Juliet
During the year 1969 (midway) They changed colors to Liime Green and a few copies exist having labels with
(1969 black rainbows) 20/20
THEN finally = In 1969 / 1970 they switched and used Lime Green labels and purple logo -
As compared to here
(1969 Lime Green) Touch 'Em With Love
(1970 Lime Green) Fancy
After 1970 they used the same 1969/1970 design but switched the Lime Green to Red as a background.
(1971 Red) Patchwork

Good source for Capitol label and date ranges: http://www.capitol6000.com/labels.html

Please note: Columbia and Epic affiliated labels issued promo 45's with alternate text "Special Rush Re-service" as seen here
Lady Marmalade
You Are Love
Getaway
Or in special printed jackets
Everybody Loves A Love Song
The Cover Of "Rolling Stone"
A promo released by DOT Catch The Wind

Please note: Sire / Virgin releases etc used a "dual numbering system" for 12" singles and LP"s
Like: 0-21163, 9 21163-0
Labels: 0-21163
Spine: 9 21163-0

This is a good example of multi-disc 78rpm LP sets:
https://www.discogs.com/release/4320973

This is a good example of multi-disc 33rpm Jukebox LP sets:
https://www.discogs.com/label/806118-Stereo-Seven-LP
http://www.bsnpubs.com/stereoproject/stereo33s.html

Help needed on series recently added:
http://www.discogs.com/label/455064-International-Preview-Society
http://www.discogs.com/label/580589-Great-Men-Of-Music
http://www.discogs.com/label/726095-The-100-Greatest-Recordings-Of-All-Time
http://www.discogs.com/label/732468-The-Greatest-Recordings-Of-The-Big-Band-Era
http://www.discogs.com/label/711992-The-Greatest-Jazz-Recordings-Of-All-Time
http://www.discogs.com/help/account/text-formatting
http://www.discogs.com/lists/Bootleg-Labels/124859
https://www.discogs.com/lists/Italian-Disco-Bootlegs/273022
https://www.discogs.com/lists/1975-Promo-12s/186497

ODD examples of records known as a "series" with only info printed or stamped on the cover:
https://www.discogs.com/label/776200-Wacker-Series

ODD examples OF a Series as Box-sets:
https://www.discogs.com/label/457027-The-Greatest-Country-Music-Recordings-Of-All-Time
https://www.discogs.com/label/200545-The-Franklin-Mint-Record-Society

ODD examples of promo records as a "series" with only info printed on paper sleeve.
https://www.discogs.com/label/386714-Columbia-Records-Disco-Series

• ℗ © ™ ℠ ® ▷ △ ◁ ∇ ◊ ∆ Λ ◈-P-◈ (Thanks to Mirva for her symbol gems!) AND "Long 33⅓ Play"
"A Division Of Liberty Records Inc."
Future Projects include more archiving a huge stack of pre-electric recordings IE: 78rpm shellacs before 1920.

Label discography links:
JAZZ Stuff - http://www.birkajazz.com/archive/prestige.htm
RCA labels - http://www.shadeddog.com/discography/
http://bluesimages.com/museum-78s/museum-labels.html
http://www.45cat.com/45_list_view_record.php?li=902
http://www.bsnpubs.com/discog.html
http://www.bsnpubs.com/modern/crown/crownstory.html
http://www.vinylbeat.com/label-index.html
http://www.45rpmrecords.com/date_rca.php
http://majesticrecord.com/labelsvictor.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dynaflex_%28RCA%29
http://historysdumpster.blogspot.com/2012/08/rca-colour-record-labels-of-70s.html
http://www.discogs.com/label/245967-Personality-Series
http://rateyourmusic.com/list/paddlesteamer/one_sided_singles__1890_1919_/
http://www.bsnpubs.com/stereoproject/history.html
http://www.globaldogproductions.info/c/columbia-original-33-45-single-series.html
http://78rpmrecord.com/allpics.htm
http://www.capitol6000.com/post1970.html
http://www.vinylbeat.com/label-index.html
http://adp.library.ucsb.edu/index.php
http://www.78discography.com/
One of the "Better" Disco related music sites to pay attention too http://www.discopatrick.com/index.html
http://majesticrecord.com/labelso.htm

4 trk tapes - https://www.discogs.com/search/?format_exact=4-Track+Cartridge
Vinyl, 7", 33 ⅓ RPM, Microgroove "aka" ( Vinyl, LP, 7", Single, Microgroove ) https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=Vinyl%2C+LP%2C+7%22%2C+Single%2C+Microgroove&type=all

Code info:
<a href="http://www.discogs..../275676">Anything here</a>
New way to link [ r = 3410571 ] (remove spacing)
r= release, u = user, m= master
voted C+C (Complete + Correct)

RSG Kwik links
RSG §3.3.1 = https://www.discogs.com/help/doc/submission-guidelines-release-title#3.3.1 / Releases that lack side designations should have two titles listed with a dash separating each one (This is also helpful because it will help prevent the release from being re-added as a dupe or to the wrong MR)

RSG §14.1.4 = https://www.discogs.com/help/guidelines/14.1.4 / Valid information should never be removed from a submission.

RSG §6.12.2 - https://www.discogs.com/help/doc/submission-guidelines-release-format#6.12.2 / A gold stamp doesn't constitute either a promo or an unique release in Discogs. Please merge.

Users we have worked with successfully and we feel who have a good sense of direction with making improvements for the site -

https://www.discogs.com/user/jazzcornerneuwied (Jazz Classical and also good ID list or makers)
https://www.discogs.com/user/manus-von-alles (Jazz Classical)
https://www.discogs.com/user/mcr1 (45's Soul 70-80's)
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45 guys ~
https://www.discogs.com/user/ynpguy
https://www.discogs.com/user/jornaskheim
https://www.discogs.com/user/Beatlefan
https://www.discogs.com/user/kcjammer

Classical ~
https://www.discogs.com/user/CarstairsClassical
https://www.discogs.com/user/bgugg3g
https://www.discogs.com/user/Wegi
https://www.discogs.com/user/EricLanzillotta

Newer users ~ that have caught our attention as helpful and polite:
https://www.discogs.com/user/vinylmaddy
https://www.discogs.com/user/scarcesounds
https://www.discogs.com/user/kaynaky
https://www.discogs.com/user/jazzcornerneuwied
https://www.discogs.com/user/jornaskheim

>>>>> Other useful links
https://www.discogs.com/lists/Record-Pressing-Plants/213755
https://www.discogs.com/help/text-formatting.html
https://www.discogs.com/lists/atlantic-records-promotional-in-store-play/203335

nik position on mass edits >>> https://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/388791#3608484

Most expensive items sold in Discogs Marketplace
https://www.discogs.com/user/discogs/lists

From staff and user Diognes_The_Fox
I really do need to stress that this is a community built site. We all need to work together to solve issues as a team. We can't keep up with this US vs. them fighting, especially among the most experienced members of the site. The goal is common for all of us.

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

IF you got this far and still reading then we are impressed. Preserving Audio Documents is our entire passion.
MP3's should be considered disposable, cheers!

http://www.whosampled.com/
BMI link - http://repertoire.bmi.com

Useful Crap >>>
https://www.discogs.com/help/doc/submission-guidelines-release-trk#Index_Tracks_And_Headings

Re-suing images from entry to another is frowned upon ~
Note: removed all pics that were taken re-used adding confusion to the database from an older entry
As noted in guidelines: RSG §13.1.8 and RSG §13.1.4.
https://www.discogs.com/help/doc/submission-guidelines-images#13.1.4

Size matters ~
https://www.discogs.com/help/doc/submission-guidelines-images#13.2.1

Sorting MR ideas:
https://www.discogs.com/Emerson-Lake-Palmer-Emerson-Lake-Palmer/master/11780
https://www.discogs.com/Eagles-The-Long-Run/master/59516
https://www.discogs.com/Emerson-Lake-Palmer-Tarkus/master/11871
https://www.discogs.com/Emerson-Lake-Palmer-Pictures-At-An-Exhibition/master/11839
https://www.discogs.com/Donna-Summer-On-The-Radio-Greatest-Hits-Vol-1-2/master/27115
https://www.discogs.com/ABBA-Bj%C3%B6rn-Benny-Agnetha-Frida-Waterloo/master/25702
https://www.discogs.com/Bad-Company-Straight-Shooter/master/37505

Sorting BIO info for
Atlantic / Atco -
Please note: USA pressing plant manufacturing variations are coded as abbreviations like: "PR", "MO", "RI", "SP", "FT" to show in the MR as (LP, Album, MO) etc.

Elektra/Asylum -
Re: USA LP's ~ Please note there are multiple pressing plant variations > MON / SP / AR / PRCW / PRC of which are coded with these initials in the FTF (format section) making the easy to see/sort in the MR.

Cotillion -
Please Note: USA pressing plant manufacturing variations are coded as abbreviations like: "PR", "MO", "RI", "SP" "CTH" to show in the MR as (LP, Album, MO) etc.
Useful entries and good exampled that benefit from having plant Id's and/or #'s in the FTF ~
https://www.discogs.com/The-Allman-Brothers-Band-Enlightened-Rogues/release/583703
https://www.discogs.com/Bad-Company-Bad-Company/release/4158829

FTF Plant topics
https://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/368277

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If you have reached this portion.... the very bottom then you need to hear a final comment from US, after being on here so Very long >>> As the site develops here is some of the issues we SEE. 1st ~ the site has gotten so over geek-ed out over every little sickening stinking detail they have forgotten to enjoy thee music. 2nd ~ We used to say a year ago that site was evolving into a group OF nit-picking ... but thee site IS now PLAGUED with too many net-pickers... net-picking every single thing to death ... we still try to have high hope for discogs. cheers

https://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/731639
MERGE ~ Problem releated discog entries re: contact multiple merges:
USA ~ https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-The-Clash/release/466513
USA ~ https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-The-Clash/release/8128328
Canada ~ https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-The-Clash/release/8456843
Canada ~ https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-The-Clash/release/2441946

The loose Clash 45's that did not create OR generate any dupe warnings:
https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-The-Clash/release/466513
https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-Groovy-Times-Gates-Of-The-West/release/9248651
https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-Gates-Of-The-WestGroovy-Times/release/9677663
https://www.discogs.com/release/8634041
https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-The-Clash/release/8456843

Proven 1st pressing from 1982 as the only known "gold stamped promo" currently
https://www.discogs.com/Van-Halen-Diver-Down/release/7603810
that precedes the later 2nd pressing with new label desing from 1983 (and into the late 1980's) ghost label types
https://www.discogs.com/Van-Halen-Diver-Down/release/7601801
https://www.discogs.com/Van-Halen-Diver-Down/release/1029617
https://www.discogs.com/Van-Halen-Diver-Down/release/7622075

Odd and unique to clarify 2 types ~
With Management Credits
https://www.discogs.com/Black-Sabbath-Paranoid/release/696772
Without Management Credits
https://www.discogs.com/Black-Sabbath-Paranoid/release/4075761
With Co-Producer Credits
https://www.discogs.com/Michael-Jackson-Thriller/release/6832812
https://www.discogs.com/Michael-Jackson-Thriller/release/3884453
https://www.discogs.com/Michael-Jackson-Thriller/release/485002
https://www.discogs.com/Michael-Jackson-Thriller/release/9157964
Without Co-Producer Credits
https://www.discogs.com/Michael-Jackson-Thriller/release/2911293

Dating "Blue Note" 1970's labels: I would say this is 1976 as the white logo seems to have arrived during or in the year 1976 and that the black was seen on 1975 LP's compare to these

1975 Stepping Into Tomorrow
1976 Caricatures
1979 Chant

ODD example of 2 different people cutting master plates Wally vs Gene via Capitol Records
https://www.discogs.com/Juice-Newton-Juice/release/8507614

UPC codes ~
The EAN contains a 13 digit number and the UPC contains a 12 digit number. EAN = 0012345678905.
UPC = (0)012345678905 or 012345678905.
The GS1, the original source for barcodes has created the confusion between UPC (Universal Product Codes) and EAN (European Article Numbers also called International Article Numbers)

https://www.nationwidebarcode.com/are-upc-a-and-ean-13-the-same/

ODD RCA ~
Living Stereo ~ https://www.discogs.com/release/8433184
vs
Stereo ~ https://www.discogs.com/release/5023930

Inner sleeve link ~
http://www.friktech.com/btls/inner.pdf
http://yktc.us/MusicRack/Inner%20Sleeve/Capitol%20Inner%20Sleeve.html

White labels: "Promotional - Not For Sale"
Sample Copy - Not For Sale
Pink labels: "Sample Copy - Not For Sale"
Blue labels: "Sample Copy - Not For Sale"

ABC Records http://www.bsnpubs.com/abc/abc900.html re: black to the target label ~ this is by far the best example of the label change during 1974, as these 2 singles are during the label change and this is good info to have discovered.
black ~ My Melody Of Love / I'll Be Loving You
orange ~ My Melody Of Love / I'll Be Loving You

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https://www.discogs.com/forum/thread/53e8e031aba9e80e5eec1d83#3721788

https://www.discogs.com/Van-Halen-Diver-Down/release/7601801

Sire logo's
a 1st pressing had sire word's under logo
2nd pressing have sire words to the right
Yaz 1st ~ Situation
Yaz 2nd ~ Situation
Smiths 1st ~ The Smiths
Smiths 2nd ~ The Smiths

Classical issues >
Parsifal
Piano Recital

paper records? Pasztö Power

Seeburg 45 Stuff
https://www.discogs.com/lists/Seeburg-Ep-programming-P7-gen-/359014
https://www.discogs.com/lists/Seeburg-Ep-programming-P8-gen-1/359015
https://www.discogs.com/lists/Seeburg-Ep-programming-P9-gen-1/359016
https://www.discogs.com/lists/Seeburg-Ep-programming-P0-gen-1/359017

Classical changing directions
Sinfonías Nr. 35 »Haffner« · Nr. 32 (En Sol Mayor) · Nr. 38 »Praga«
Sinfonías Nr. 35 »Haffner« · Nr. 32 (En Sol Mayor) · Nr. 38 »Praga«
Doing It To Death - Part 1 & 2 / More Peas
Get Up Offa That Thing / Release The Pressure

test 45 intended to solve and/or stop merge issues re: Groovy Times / Gates Of The West

Not a real label but a series? https://www.discogs.com/label/827640-stereo-33
Good series profile for 45 - https://www.discogs.com/label/305930-Winners-Circle-Series
Good series profile descriptions https://www.discogs.com/label/263402-Columbia-Hall-Of-Fame

Quick link URL example > From The "[m = 203154]" Album

DBX type of encoded discs https://www.discogs.com/search/?q=dbx+encoded&format_exact=Vinyl&type=release

#46 merges? https://www.discogs.com/The-Clash-The-Clash/release/466513

Valid reasons to ask for help and advice ~ https://www.discogs.com/Crosby-Stills-Nash-Young-4-Way-Street/release/1245301

- These needs votes
https://www.discogs.com/Jethro-Tull-Benefit/release/3487503
https://www.discogs.com/Coro-Da-Matriz-Da-Gl%C3%B3ria-Do-Largo-Do-Machado-Os-Salmos-De-David/release/6216651
https://www.discogs.com/Trio-Tari%C3%A1curi-No-Salgas-Nina-A-la-Calle-/release/7830285
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