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French releases can be a nightmare when it comes to date the releases, so I thought it is time to bring this up to a broader public. Here some useful hints on how to (roughly) "date" a French release (or at least to exclude a date):
The French price code system consisted of 5 phases:
Phase 1 (until 1946):
The colour of the centre labels, in combination with the size, was the price indicator.
However, every record label had it's own colour system.
Columbia:
25 cm, black: 18 FF
25 cm, brown: 21 FF
25 cm, red: 22,50 FF
25 cm, blue: 25 FF
25 cm, violet: 36 FF
30 cm, black: 25 FF
30 cm, brown: 35 FF
30 cm, red: 37 FF
30 cm, blue: 40 FF
30 cm, violet: 48 FF
Disque Gramophone:
25 cm, green: 18 FF
25 cm, black: 25 FF
25 cm, red: 37 FF
25 cm, cream: 45 FF
25 cm, violet (after 1929): ?
30 cm, green: 25 FF
30 cm, black: 40 FF
30 cm, red: 55 FF
30 cm, cream: 62 FF
30 cm, white: 95 FF
Odeon:
25 cm, blue: 18 FF
25 cm, green: 22,50 FF
25 cm, red: 25 FF
25 cm, mauve: 30 FF
25 cm, light brown: 25 FF
25 cm, white with black (reissues): ?
25 cm, white with blue (reissues): ?
25 cm, white with green (reissues): ?
30 cm, blue: 25 FF
30 cm, green: 32 FF
30 cm, red: 40 FF
30 cm, mauve: 45 FF
Parlophone
25 cm, black (after 1929): ?
25 cm, blue: 18 FF
25 cm, red: 18 FF
25 cm, brown: 22,50 FF
30 cm, blue: 25 FF
30 cm, red: 32 FF
30 cm, brown: 37 FF
30 cm, light blue: 40 FF
Pathé:
25 cm, black: 16 FF
25 cm, green: 18 FF
25 cm, red: 20 FF
25 cm, violet (after 1929): ?
25 cm, white (after 1929): ?
30 cm, red (after 1929): ?
30 cm, black (after 1929): ?
30 cm, green (after 1929): ?
Pathé Art:
30 cm, multicolour, blue border: 35 FF (1929)
30 cm, multicolour, orange border: 35 FF (1929)
Polydor:
25 cm, green: 18 FF
25 cm, blue: 24 FF
25 cm, black: 24 FF
25 cm, violet: 24 FF
25 cm, red: 34 FF
25 cm, white with green (reissues): ?
30 cm, green: 25 FF
30 cm, blue: 40 FF
30 cm, black: 40 FF
30 cm, violet: 40 FF
30 cm, white with green (reissues): ?
Note: NP in a circle indicates the shellac was made of "recycled material". It was introduced 1939, shortly before WW II.
The recycled material allowed a much cheaper production but was very fragile and had far more surface noise.
Phase 2 (1947 to 1968) - "code-prix conseillé":
All French record labels used a common, state-imposed system called "code-prix conseillé", which consisted of either the wording (Série Artistique / Série Standard / Série Médium), or a single letter, usually encircled and found on the back cover and the labels:
Ⓐ or A = Artistique (the most expensive price, usually for classic and high volume artists).
Ⓜ or M = Médium (medium price. Basically for the majority of releases).
Ⓢ or S = Standard (cheapest price, normally for "dance music" or reissues)
Later the record companies added their own letters, e.g. Philips = D for Deluxe (introduced 1959 for classic records with a lower price than A), or P for Populaire (introduced for records cheaper than S). Example: An LP that would have cost 25 Francs before would then go out for 9,95 Francs only.
Pathé Marconi used an alternate price code system (between 1967 and 1968 only):
A: Large orchestrations
B: small or medium orchestrations
C: Solo artists
D: Foreign artists.
Phase 3 (between 1968 and 1978) - "lettres-codes":
Introduced by the "Syndicat national de l'édition phonographique" (SNEP), consisting of 1 letter (later 2 letters). Usually found encircled on the back cover, top right hand side. The code corresponded to a common price, imposed on all record companies and (due to state-imposed fixed margins) on retailers. So, the retail price resulted automatically.
For LPs there were now the following codes:
A, D, M, S
T, U - introduced 1968
B, C, E, F, G, H, R - introduced 1970
I, K, Q, W, X - introduced 1971 (Q and W were used for import records)
Z - introduced 1972
Prices were fixed by the Ministry of Finance until 1972. After that, the record companies had more flexibility in their price policies and hence more codes were introduced, until the whole alphabet was in use:
O - introduced 1973
Y - introduced 1974
FB - introduced 1975
V, KC, RB, SE, SF - introduced 1977
Double LPs had:
2xF (ca. 17 FRF), 2xD (ca. 21 FRF), 2xT (ca. 25 FRF), 2xC (ca. 30 FRF), 2xU (ca. 35 FRF), 2xS, a.m.m.
Attention in case of reissues: when the price for the record didn't change, the price code didn't either. So you may very well find a price code from 1969 (T) on a Pink Floyd album of 1975. It's also possible that there are several reissues with different price codes. Because printing a new cover for each price change was too expensive, the companies simply used small stickers, covering the old price codes.
See here for an example.
Generally, you can group the various LP price codes (26 altogther in 1978) in three categories:
Budget-line (for established releases, between 10 and 25 FRF in 1978): codes D, E, F, G, H, R, V, Z, FB, RB.
Medium price (between 25 and 35 FRF in 1978): codes B, U, C, T.
New releases (between 35 and 50 FRF in 1978): codes A, K, O, S, X, Y, SE, SF.
Special releases (higher than 50 FRF in 1978), codes I, Q, W, KC.
There were 2 major price adjustments in 1974 and 1977, leading to higher prices for all price codes.
A: 37 FRF (1970), 37,50 (1972), 39 FRF (1974), 40 FRF (1977)
B: 32 FRF (1970), 34 FRF (1974), 34,50 (1977)
C: 26 FRF (1970), 28 FRF (1974), 28,50 FRF (1977)
D: 20,50 (1970), 22 FRF (1974), 22,50 FRF (1977)
E: 10 FRF (1970), 11 FRF (1974), 11,50 FRF (1977)
F: 16,50 FRF (1970), 17 FRF (1974), 18,50 FRF (1977)
G: 16 FRF (1970), 16,50 FRF (1974), 17,50 FRF (1977)
H: 11,50 FRF (1970), 12,50 FRF (1973), 13,50 FRF (1974), 13,70 FRF (1977)
I: 60 FRF (1971), 64 FRF (1974), 65 FRF (1977)
K: 32,50 FRF (1971), 45,50 FRF (1972), 48,50 FRF (1974), 49,50 FRF (1977)
O: 45 FRF (1972), 47 FRF (1974), 47,50 FRF (1977)
Q: 57 FRF (1971), 60 FRF (1974), 61 FRF (1977)
R: 13 FRF (1970), 13,50 FRF (1973), 14,50 FRF (1974), 14,90 FRF (1977)
S: 38,50 (1970), 40,50 FRF (1974), 41,50 FRF (1977)
T: 24,25 (1970), 26,25 FRF (1974), 26,50 FRF (1977)
U: 28 FRF (1970), 30 FRF (1974), 30,50 FRF (1977)
V: 14,50 FRF (1977)
W: 49,50 FRF (1971), 52,50 FRF (1974), 53,50 FRF (1977)
X: 40,50 FRF (1971), 48,50 FRF (1974), 49,50 FRF (1977)
Y: 36,50 FRF (1974), 37,50 FRF (1977)
Z: 20 FRF (1972), 21 FRF (1974), 21,50 FRF (1977)
KC: 52 FRF (1977)
SE: 46 FRF (1977)
SF: 46,50 FRF (1977)
FB: 19,90 FRF (1975), 19,95 (1977)
RB: 16,50 FRF (1977)
For 45rpm singles the codes were:
L (since 1968) - 8,50 FRF (1978)
J (since 1972) - 9 FRF (1978)
M (for EPs - since 1968) - 12 FRF (1978)
N (since 1974) - 9,95 FRF (1978)
E (since 1975) - 11,50 FRF (1978)
EA (since 1978).
Company specific 7" codes:
NA (since 1972)
LA (since 1974) - 8 FRF (1978)
PN (since 1974) - 6,10 FRF (1978)
R (Barclay und sublabels only, since 1971) - 14,50 FRF (1978).
EC (since 1977)
Usually, the price codes changed in the last quarter of the year, therefore the overlaps in years. E.g. the code valid for 1973 (B) was in fact introduced already around October 1972.
Phase 4 (1979 until late 1984):
Company specific price codes: PM, POL, AE, PG, BA, CB, etc. (see list below for abbreviations).
The price code coming from the record company was not binding for the retailers anymore, they now could freely add their margins on top.
Please note: Even though the general boundary is 1979, it is possible that a new price code was already present on December 1978 releases, in conjunction with the old price code.
List of known French company price code letters
AD = Auvidis
ADE = Adès
AE = Arabella Eurodisc
ARC = Arcade France S.à.r.l.
BA = Barclay
BAL = La Baleine
BM = BMG
BPE = Baillemont Productions Distribution
CA = Carrere
CB = CBS / Sony Music
CM = Le Chant Du Monde
D = Danceteria
DIS = Disc'Az
DK = Mélodie
FOO = Madrigal
HM = Harmonia Mundi
IM = Impact (2)
LA = Laurence Records
M7 = Média 7
MD = Moradisc
MU = Musidisc
NR = New Rose
OMD = OMD (3)
PG = Phonogram
PM = Pathé Marconi EMI
POL = Polydor
PY = PolyGram
RC = RCA / BMG
SA = Safari Ambiance
SC = Socadisc
SD = Sonodisc
UN = Universal
VG = Vogue
WAG = Wagram Music
WE = WEA or WEA Filipacchi Music
WM = WMD
Phase 5 (since August 1984):
Introduction of Barcodes.
French cassettes featured barcodes only since October 1984.
So, despite barcodes, record companies were still obliged to show Price Codes on the releases issued in France (i.e. also for Europe-wide releases not specifically mentioning France) (Art. 1, Arrêté du 12 janvier 1995 fixant les mentions obligatoires devant figurer sur les phonogrammes (consolidated version 2017)).
DL (Dépôt Légal - "Legal Deposit") at Bibliothèque Nationale de France (BNF): Only the first edition is subject to the legal deposit, all reissues get subsumed into it. So this date can be very useful for first editions but fails for reissues.
==============================================================================
For dedicated Virgin France price codes, please refer to this Wiki.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EDITS:
09.08.2016: Order of the thread changed (Price code elaboration first, Virgin France excursion last).
Date corrected: Phase 4 (POL, AE, PM) already started with the beginning of 1979, not late 1979 (source: "Etude sur l'evolution de la concentration et des prix dans l'industrie et le commerce du disque en France" - Commission of the European Community, June 1979 - in French only).
30.08.2016: Info on DL at BNF added.
28.10.2016: Added another price code (SA).
02.11.2016: Clarification on being price codes only.
08.11.2016: AD price code added.
14.11.2016: SC price code added.
19.04.2017: Virgin France moved to dedicated Wiki page.
21.04.2017: Overhaul of codes, addition of LA company code.
30.05.2017: BM code price added.
13.06.2017: Pathé Marconi 1967/68 price codes added
07.08.2017: UN and CM codes added
16.08.2017: Label colour coding added
29.08.2017: Clarification regarding use of Price Codes after introduction of barcodes by French law (1995). NP on labels.
12.09.2017: Broken link corrected.
13.08.2018: Note about possible "early adoption" of 1979 price codes on late 1978 releases added.
14.11.2018: BAL and BPE added
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INNER SLEEVES:
POLYDOR
Vintage POLYDOR-typical lined series Variant 02
Variants:
Variants are listed separately:
***NB: If particular date codes are required, please be certain to check availability with Seller prior to purchase!***
Variant 01: large die-cut poly-lined folded to rear date code between 1964 and 1966 inclusive typically ### (may have DM prefix 1964/5 thus DM (#)#/#) MADE IN ENGLAND low lhs British Patent No. 800513 British & Other Patents Pending. (or British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 for later dates) low rhs
Variant 02: large die-cut poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs MADE IN ENGLAND or Made in England low rhs +/- date code between 1966 and 1972 inclusive (NB: top corners may be trimmed, especially later instances) [this Variant]
Variant 03: large die-cut poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND low rhs +/- date code between 1968 and 1972 inclusive
Variant 04: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND miscellaneous references low rhs including ##72 (1972 date code)
Variant 05: small (usually) die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND 4913 000 15801 +/- miscellaneous references usually ### low rhs
Variant 06: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear U.K. Patent No. 1,072,844 Brevete SGDG 1,405,719 Eire 28160 in three rows low lhs (font size somewhat variable) PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND R.S. 4913 000 15801 ## # low rhs where ## # is most commonly 49 4
Variant 07: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear U.K. Patent No. 1,072,844 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND R.S. 4913 000 15801 +/- 7## low rhs
Variant 08: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND 4913000 15802 6 34 low rhs
Variant 09: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND 4913000 15803 ### low rhs where ### = miscellaneous numerical references
Variant 10: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND 4913000 15804 ### low rhs where ### = miscellaneous numerical references
Variant 11: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs Important Notice box over PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND 4913000 15804 ### (or ####) low rhs where ### = miscellaneous numerical references
Variant 12: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear (DRG) British Patent No.1072844 & 1125555 low lhs Important Notice box over PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND 4913000 15805 (#)#/## low rhs where (#)#/## is a date code between 1979 and 1984 inclusive
DECCA :
Variants are listed separately:
Variant 1: Made in England low lhs PATENT APPLIED FOR low rhs
Variant 2: Made in England low lhs Patent Applied for low rhs [this Variant]
Variant 3: Made in England low lhs British patent No. 800513 Foreign patents pending low rhs
Variant 4: British patent No. 800513 Foreign patents pending low lhs Made in England ### low rhs where ### is a date code approx. 016 (January 1966) to 066 (June 1966)
Variant 5: British Patent (or patent) No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs Made in England (or MADE IN ENGLAND) ### low rhs where ### is a date code approx. 086 (August 1966) to 069 (June 1969)
Variant 6: British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs Made in England (or MADE IN ENGLAND) low rhs
Variant 7: Made in England low lhs Patent Application No. 40904/61 low rhs
Variant 8: Made in England low lhs U.K. Patent No. 1,072,844 (+/- &) Foreign Patents Pending in two rows low rhs
The French price code system consisted of 5 phases:
Phase 1 (until 1946):
The colour of the centre labels, in combination with the size, was the price indicator.
However, every record label had it's own colour system.
Columbia:
25 cm, black: 18 FF
25 cm, brown: 21 FF
25 cm, red: 22,50 FF
25 cm, blue: 25 FF
25 cm, violet: 36 FF
30 cm, black: 25 FF
30 cm, brown: 35 FF
30 cm, red: 37 FF
30 cm, blue: 40 FF
30 cm, violet: 48 FF
Disque Gramophone:
25 cm, green: 18 FF
25 cm, black: 25 FF
25 cm, red: 37 FF
25 cm, cream: 45 FF
25 cm, violet (after 1929): ?
30 cm, green: 25 FF
30 cm, black: 40 FF
30 cm, red: 55 FF
30 cm, cream: 62 FF
30 cm, white: 95 FF
Odeon:
25 cm, blue: 18 FF
25 cm, green: 22,50 FF
25 cm, red: 25 FF
25 cm, mauve: 30 FF
25 cm, light brown: 25 FF
25 cm, white with black (reissues): ?
25 cm, white with blue (reissues): ?
25 cm, white with green (reissues): ?
30 cm, blue: 25 FF
30 cm, green: 32 FF
30 cm, red: 40 FF
30 cm, mauve: 45 FF
Parlophone
25 cm, black (after 1929): ?
25 cm, blue: 18 FF
25 cm, red: 18 FF
25 cm, brown: 22,50 FF
30 cm, blue: 25 FF
30 cm, red: 32 FF
30 cm, brown: 37 FF
30 cm, light blue: 40 FF
Pathé:
25 cm, black: 16 FF
25 cm, green: 18 FF
25 cm, red: 20 FF
25 cm, violet (after 1929): ?
25 cm, white (after 1929): ?
30 cm, red (after 1929): ?
30 cm, black (after 1929): ?
30 cm, green (after 1929): ?
Pathé Art:
30 cm, multicolour, blue border: 35 FF (1929)
30 cm, multicolour, orange border: 35 FF (1929)
Polydor:
25 cm, green: 18 FF
25 cm, blue: 24 FF
25 cm, black: 24 FF
25 cm, violet: 24 FF
25 cm, red: 34 FF
25 cm, white with green (reissues): ?
30 cm, green: 25 FF
30 cm, blue: 40 FF
30 cm, black: 40 FF
30 cm, violet: 40 FF
30 cm, white with green (reissues): ?
Note: NP in a circle indicates the shellac was made of "recycled material". It was introduced 1939, shortly before WW II.
The recycled material allowed a much cheaper production but was very fragile and had far more surface noise.
Phase 2 (1947 to 1968) - "code-prix conseillé":
All French record labels used a common, state-imposed system called "code-prix conseillé", which consisted of either the wording (Série Artistique / Série Standard / Série Médium), or a single letter, usually encircled and found on the back cover and the labels:
Ⓐ or A = Artistique (the most expensive price, usually for classic and high volume artists).
Ⓜ or M = Médium (medium price. Basically for the majority of releases).
Ⓢ or S = Standard (cheapest price, normally for "dance music" or reissues)
Later the record companies added their own letters, e.g. Philips = D for Deluxe (introduced 1959 for classic records with a lower price than A), or P for Populaire (introduced for records cheaper than S). Example: An LP that would have cost 25 Francs before would then go out for 9,95 Francs only.
Pathé Marconi used an alternate price code system (between 1967 and 1968 only):
A: Large orchestrations
B: small or medium orchestrations
C: Solo artists
D: Foreign artists.
Phase 3 (between 1968 and 1978) - "lettres-codes":
Introduced by the "Syndicat national de l'édition phonographique" (SNEP), consisting of 1 letter (later 2 letters). Usually found encircled on the back cover, top right hand side. The code corresponded to a common price, imposed on all record companies and (due to state-imposed fixed margins) on retailers. So, the retail price resulted automatically.
For LPs there were now the following codes:
A, D, M, S
T, U - introduced 1968
B, C, E, F, G, H, R - introduced 1970
I, K, Q, W, X - introduced 1971 (Q and W were used for import records)
Z - introduced 1972
Prices were fixed by the Ministry of Finance until 1972. After that, the record companies had more flexibility in their price policies and hence more codes were introduced, until the whole alphabet was in use:
O - introduced 1973
Y - introduced 1974
FB - introduced 1975
V, KC, RB, SE, SF - introduced 1977
Double LPs had:
2xF (ca. 17 FRF), 2xD (ca. 21 FRF), 2xT (ca. 25 FRF), 2xC (ca. 30 FRF), 2xU (ca. 35 FRF), 2xS, a.m.m.
Attention in case of reissues: when the price for the record didn't change, the price code didn't either. So you may very well find a price code from 1969 (T) on a Pink Floyd album of 1975. It's also possible that there are several reissues with different price codes. Because printing a new cover for each price change was too expensive, the companies simply used small stickers, covering the old price codes.
See here for an example.
Generally, you can group the various LP price codes (26 altogther in 1978) in three categories:
Budget-line (for established releases, between 10 and 25 FRF in 1978): codes D, E, F, G, H, R, V, Z, FB, RB.
Medium price (between 25 and 35 FRF in 1978): codes B, U, C, T.
New releases (between 35 and 50 FRF in 1978): codes A, K, O, S, X, Y, SE, SF.
Special releases (higher than 50 FRF in 1978), codes I, Q, W, KC.
There were 2 major price adjustments in 1974 and 1977, leading to higher prices for all price codes.
A: 37 FRF (1970), 37,50 (1972), 39 FRF (1974), 40 FRF (1977)
B: 32 FRF (1970), 34 FRF (1974), 34,50 (1977)
C: 26 FRF (1970), 28 FRF (1974), 28,50 FRF (1977)
D: 20,50 (1970), 22 FRF (1974), 22,50 FRF (1977)
E: 10 FRF (1970), 11 FRF (1974), 11,50 FRF (1977)
F: 16,50 FRF (1970), 17 FRF (1974), 18,50 FRF (1977)
G: 16 FRF (1970), 16,50 FRF (1974), 17,50 FRF (1977)
H: 11,50 FRF (1970), 12,50 FRF (1973), 13,50 FRF (1974), 13,70 FRF (1977)
I: 60 FRF (1971), 64 FRF (1974), 65 FRF (1977)
K: 32,50 FRF (1971), 45,50 FRF (1972), 48,50 FRF (1974), 49,50 FRF (1977)
O: 45 FRF (1972), 47 FRF (1974), 47,50 FRF (1977)
Q: 57 FRF (1971), 60 FRF (1974), 61 FRF (1977)
R: 13 FRF (1970), 13,50 FRF (1973), 14,50 FRF (1974), 14,90 FRF (1977)
S: 38,50 (1970), 40,50 FRF (1974), 41,50 FRF (1977)
T: 24,25 (1970), 26,25 FRF (1974), 26,50 FRF (1977)
U: 28 FRF (1970), 30 FRF (1974), 30,50 FRF (1977)
V: 14,50 FRF (1977)
W: 49,50 FRF (1971), 52,50 FRF (1974), 53,50 FRF (1977)
X: 40,50 FRF (1971), 48,50 FRF (1974), 49,50 FRF (1977)
Y: 36,50 FRF (1974), 37,50 FRF (1977)
Z: 20 FRF (1972), 21 FRF (1974), 21,50 FRF (1977)
KC: 52 FRF (1977)
SE: 46 FRF (1977)
SF: 46,50 FRF (1977)
FB: 19,90 FRF (1975), 19,95 (1977)
RB: 16,50 FRF (1977)
For 45rpm singles the codes were:
L (since 1968) - 8,50 FRF (1978)
J (since 1972) - 9 FRF (1978)
M (for EPs - since 1968) - 12 FRF (1978)
N (since 1974) - 9,95 FRF (1978)
E (since 1975) - 11,50 FRF (1978)
EA (since 1978).
Company specific 7" codes:
NA (since 1972)
LA (since 1974) - 8 FRF (1978)
PN (since 1974) - 6,10 FRF (1978)
R (Barclay und sublabels only, since 1971) - 14,50 FRF (1978).
EC (since 1977)
Usually, the price codes changed in the last quarter of the year, therefore the overlaps in years. E.g. the code valid for 1973 (B) was in fact introduced already around October 1972.
Phase 4 (1979 until late 1984):
Company specific price codes: PM, POL, AE, PG, BA, CB, etc. (see list below for abbreviations).
The price code coming from the record company was not binding for the retailers anymore, they now could freely add their margins on top.
Please note: Even though the general boundary is 1979, it is possible that a new price code was already present on December 1978 releases, in conjunction with the old price code.
List of known French company price code letters
AD = Auvidis
ADE = Adès
AE = Arabella Eurodisc
ARC = Arcade France S.à.r.l.
BA = Barclay
BAL = La Baleine
BM = BMG
BPE = Baillemont Productions Distribution
CA = Carrere
CB = CBS / Sony Music
CM = Le Chant Du Monde
D = Danceteria
DIS = Disc'Az
DK = Mélodie
FOO = Madrigal
HM = Harmonia Mundi
IM = Impact (2)
LA = Laurence Records
M7 = Média 7
MD = Moradisc
MU = Musidisc
NR = New Rose
OMD = OMD (3)
PG = Phonogram
PM = Pathé Marconi EMI
POL = Polydor
PY = PolyGram
RC = RCA / BMG
SA = Safari Ambiance
SC = Socadisc
SD = Sonodisc
UN = Universal
VG = Vogue
WAG = Wagram Music
WE = WEA or WEA Filipacchi Music
WM = WMD
Phase 5 (since August 1984):
Introduction of Barcodes.
French cassettes featured barcodes only since October 1984.
So, despite barcodes, record companies were still obliged to show Price Codes on the releases issued in France (i.e. also for Europe-wide releases not specifically mentioning France) (Art. 1, Arrêté du 12 janvier 1995 fixant les mentions obligatoires devant figurer sur les phonogrammes (consolidated version 2017)).
DL (Dépôt Légal - "Legal Deposit") at Bibliothèque Nationale de France (BNF): Only the first edition is subject to the legal deposit, all reissues get subsumed into it. So this date can be very useful for first editions but fails for reissues.
==============================================================================
For dedicated Virgin France price codes, please refer to this Wiki.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
EDITS:
09.08.2016: Order of the thread changed (Price code elaboration first, Virgin France excursion last).
Date corrected: Phase 4 (POL, AE, PM) already started with the beginning of 1979, not late 1979 (source: "Etude sur l'evolution de la concentration et des prix dans l'industrie et le commerce du disque en France" - Commission of the European Community, June 1979 - in French only).
30.08.2016: Info on DL at BNF added.
28.10.2016: Added another price code (SA).
02.11.2016: Clarification on being price codes only.
08.11.2016: AD price code added.
14.11.2016: SC price code added.
19.04.2017: Virgin France moved to dedicated Wiki page.
21.04.2017: Overhaul of codes, addition of LA company code.
30.05.2017: BM code price added.
13.06.2017: Pathé Marconi 1967/68 price codes added
07.08.2017: UN and CM codes added
16.08.2017: Label colour coding added
29.08.2017: Clarification regarding use of Price Codes after introduction of barcodes by French law (1995). NP on labels.
12.09.2017: Broken link corrected.
13.08.2018: Note about possible "early adoption" of 1979 price codes on late 1978 releases added.
14.11.2018: BAL and BPE added
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INNER SLEEVES:
POLYDOR
Vintage POLYDOR-typical lined series Variant 02
Variants:
Variants are listed separately:
***NB: If particular date codes are required, please be certain to check availability with Seller prior to purchase!***
Variant 01: large die-cut poly-lined folded to rear date code between 1964 and 1966 inclusive typically ### (may have DM prefix 1964/5 thus DM (#)#/#) MADE IN ENGLAND low lhs British Patent No. 800513 British & Other Patents Pending. (or British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 for later dates) low rhs
Variant 02: large die-cut poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs MADE IN ENGLAND or Made in England low rhs +/- date code between 1966 and 1972 inclusive (NB: top corners may be trimmed, especially later instances) [this Variant]
Variant 03: large die-cut poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND low rhs +/- date code between 1968 and 1972 inclusive
Variant 04: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND miscellaneous references low rhs including ##72 (1972 date code)
Variant 05: small (usually) die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND 4913 000 15801 +/- miscellaneous references usually ### low rhs
Variant 06: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear U.K. Patent No. 1,072,844 Brevete SGDG 1,405,719 Eire 28160 in three rows low lhs (font size somewhat variable) PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND R.S. 4913 000 15801 ## # low rhs where ## # is most commonly 49 4
Variant 07: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear U.K. Patent No. 1,072,844 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND R.S. 4913 000 15801 +/- 7## low rhs
Variant 08: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND 4913000 15802 6 34 low rhs
Variant 09: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND 4913000 15803 ### low rhs where ### = miscellaneous numerical references
Variant 10: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND 4913000 15804 ### low rhs where ### = miscellaneous numerical references
Variant 11: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs Important Notice box over PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND 4913000 15804 ### (or ####) low rhs where ### = miscellaneous numerical references
Variant 12: small die-cut semi-opaque poly-lined folded to rear (DRG) British Patent No.1072844 & 1125555 low lhs Important Notice box over PLASTIC BAGS CAN BE DANGEROUS box low centre MADE IN ENGLAND 4913000 15805 (#)#/## low rhs where (#)#/## is a date code between 1979 and 1984 inclusive
DECCA :
Variants are listed separately:
Variant 1: Made in England low lhs PATENT APPLIED FOR low rhs
Variant 2: Made in England low lhs Patent Applied for low rhs [this Variant]
Variant 3: Made in England low lhs British patent No. 800513 Foreign patents pending low rhs
Variant 4: British patent No. 800513 Foreign patents pending low lhs Made in England ### low rhs where ### is a date code approx. 016 (January 1966) to 066 (June 1966)
Variant 5: British Patent (or patent) No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs Made in England (or MADE IN ENGLAND) ### low rhs where ### is a date code approx. 086 (August 1966) to 069 (June 1969)
Variant 6: British Patent No. 800513 & 973939 low lhs Made in England (or MADE IN ENGLAND) low rhs
Variant 7: Made in England low lhs Patent Application No. 40904/61 low rhs
Variant 8: Made in England low lhs U.K. Patent No. 1,072,844 (+/- &) Foreign Patents Pending in two rows low rhs
Recent Activity
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What a pity that the disc is presented in a simple cardboard inner sleeve... This leaves marks on the vinyl.
But, after a deep cleaning, this vinyl is perfect and sounds really excellent. It is detailed and precise. Very well balanced and dynamic. All... See full review |
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Exceptional in 45rpm ! "Autumn Leaves" sounds fantastic better than my Somethin' Else from "Music Matters Ltd." which is already amazing. I don't think you could listen this track better than on this 45rpm press.
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Quiet and Flat record and... flat sound :(
No default but lifeless pressing. |
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I never buy CD because poor sound quality exept some SACD. I prefer by far the sound of vinyl.
Since this one exist only on CD, I decided to buy the 3 albums (Beit, Alef and Gimel) and.... What a surprise ! These recording and pressing are exceptional... See full review |
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I never buy CD because poor sound quality exept some SACD. I prefer by far the sound of vinyl.
Since this one exist only on CD, I decided to buy the 3 albums (Beit, Alef and Gimel) and.... What a surprise ! These recording and pressing are exceptional... See full review |
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I never buy CD because poor sound quality exept some SACD. I prefer by far the sound of vinyl.
Since this one exist only on CD, I decided to buy the 3 albums (Beit, Alef and Gimel) and.... What a surprise ! These recording and pressing are exceptional... See full review |
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I never buy CD because poor sound quality exept some SACD. I prefer by far the sound of vinyl.
Since this one exist only on CD, I decided to buy the 3 albums (Beit, Alef and Gimel) and.... What a surprise ! These recording and pressing are exceptional... See full review |
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After bought and highly appreciated the fabulous work by S.Wilson on « stand up » and « Aqualung », I decide to buy this too, even if I already own a nice French 1st press.
Well, once again, an excellent work by SW and a flat and quiet vinyl… but it’s... See full review |
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Just... WoW ! This is a real audiophile release. Steve Wilson made a fabulous job, especially on drums which are clear, dynamic and groovy. Voice is giant and well placed, everytime. It's like discover a new album, a fantastic one ! Booklet is a nice...
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CSB….
You don’t have it yet and you put a 5 stars on this release ?…?….. |
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Superb pressing ! I was skeptical about the colored vinyl but it's a real audiophile press. Very quiet and detailed. Sound is clear and dynamic. A great one !
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Warning ! A scammer is on this sale's page. He change nick name all the time, actually it's Tom.Bestmu and Victore.molin. DON'T BUY !
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❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ NO NEED TO TALK TOO MUCH > THIS PRESSING IS FANTASTIC ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤ ❤
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You seems to have the US version which is oversized at 13'. The UE version is a standard 12' with, maybe, a light oversizing but just fit with my usual PVC outer sleeve.
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He seems to have a new account now… . .
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I wish all the reissue have the same quality.... It's just fabulous !
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This is an audiophile pressing for a low price. No need to by Mofi or other audiophile new press. All is well balanced with relief, dynamic and crystal clear. a great pleasure to listen it.
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This pressing beats easily the Mofi ! More dynamic, Crystal clear, perfect separation... Just perfect ! don't spend your money for the Mofi, you will not get better than this one ;)
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Just compare this new Mofi with my M/M Thriller 1982 Japanese press ... and no hesitation to say the Japanese is more dynamic, more clear and never tiring. Mofi did a good job but the pressing don't worth the price. For 30$ you could purchase the...
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I was very worried with my purchase when I've seen "colored vinyl" which is rarely among the best... After, I've seen the sticker "Made in Czech Republic" what is generally pressed by GZ Media, one of the worst pressing society in Europe... Then, I've...
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Why should it be gatefold ? This is a single record presented as it was in original version.
Mofi as other present gatefold when the original version was. |
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I totally agree with thezielinsky ! The pressing is much better than a lot of pressing i've listened (1st Japanese, 1st UK, 3rd US... and a lot of european mid 70' press). All is well balanced, sound is dynamic, clear and never tiring. Bass is present...
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Superb Unique cover, I love it so much... BUT, the essential is not here. This pressing is impressive of realism ! Stereo isn't exaggerated and still well balanced, cymbals are dynamic and clear, bass is round and hot. A lovely pressing...
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Same shit ... It's the same master and same pressing.
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