Heartbreakers* – L.A.M.F.

Maybe I'm just crazy, but I still MUCH prefer disc 2 of the 2012 Definitive Edition over the new "Found 77 Masters", or any other version I've heard for that matter, the original cassette mix and the Lost 77 Mixes have never sounded right to me either, and the new Found 77 Masters just sound blown out, overly loud, and distorted, like pretty much all new cds nowadays, and Goin' Steady doesn't even sound like the same mix, it's HIGHLY inferior to the original album version. I always preferred the original 1977 vinyl version over anything we ever had on cd, despite the "muddy" sound that everyone likes to complain about, I never ever noticed it, and it was fixed in any case with the 2012 cd, that is the PERFECT version of this album imo(and if you want to hear the original single versions of Chinese Rocks and Born to Lose in their best quality, pick up the 1993 Rhino cd entitled DIY:Blank Generation, they basically just took the tracks off this cd and stuck them on the new bonus disc, but they made them sound loud, blown out, and distorted to match the rest of the box set, you would think with all the info out there about the "Loudness War" that this kind of thing would no longer be an issue, but it still seems to rear it's ugly head more often than not). I've seen nothing but praise for this new box set, I think people are falling for the "newly discovered master tapes" line and getting a little too excited, and not really making the comparisons they need to make. And I'm not averse to a REAL remastering job being done from recently discovered master tapes, what they did with Never Mind The Bollocks in 2012 was AMAZING, that release SMOKED any other version that was ever released before, I STILL can't believe how good that cd sounds. But I don't think people are being quite as truthful here, like I said, one of the songs is OBVIOUSLY not even the correct mix, so who knows what else they are not being truthful about. This release does NOT sound faithful to the original, on ANY of the songs in my opinion, and disc 2 on the 2012 box set does, by a thousand fold. Give it an honest listen for yourself before writing off the old, MUCH superior box set. Just my two cents.

So whats the word, is the song "Born to Lose" or "Born too Loose"?

Is there a separate page for recent pink vinyl found masters release or i just missed it?

Just got my 1st orig copy of this..Ex vinyl..maybe a few plays.
I've always known about the lore surrounding the infamous 'muddy mix.
Very interesting finally hearing it.
That guitar line in 'going steady' while JT says 'if i want it...if you're worth it..was something I had not heard before.
Really upfront position guitar part in the original mix there.
It really is inconsistent as a whole album production wise where some songs sound much better than others.
I now understand why they were so unhappy w it and why Nolan actually quit the band over it.(the shitty sound)
They had the songs and performances it just didnt translate on wax.
Glad to be able to finally hear it for sure.

I have just bought an original copy on Track Records and there is a typo on the track list.
instead of the first track being called Born to lose, its written as Born to loose.

You have no idea about Punk Rock if this record is not in your collection.

just the best of Thunders and the gang back in the good old days, the rougher the better which is how punk should be

Thunders, w/ or without Johansen et al. is a fundamental piece to the global punk puzzle and this disc goes far to explain why. Perfect songs sung with perfect attitude played perfectly. Nearing 40+ years old this, to my ears at least, has not dated one bit! Even if the tired cliche of junky loser punk has worn thin the songs here remain classic "rock and roll" in the real spirit of the term.

I have two UK 'first pressing' 1977 copies of this album. Both side A run outs are identical.
One has the side B etching mentioned above - but I would suggest that the 'SKCTCVIVS' hand engraving actually reads 'SK GENIUS' (SK as in Speedy Keen?)
The other - and I'm pretty sure that this is the one I bought on the day of release - has 'LAMF' and 'A SPEEDY SPECIAL' etched in the run out. Never seen another and can't see it anywhere on discogs...

One of the best punk albums! I don't care about all the remastered nonsense and which version of the record is better. Who cares! Buy a copy of this record when you see it. Killer punk rock! Johnny Thunders is the reason why so many punks and Rock N' Rollers play Les Paul Junior guitars.